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Heisenberg

Quote from: forgetful on January 07, 2024, 11:46:30 AM
While Not a Serious Person continues to fight a culture war, over 10 children a day are losing either 1 or more limbs a day in Gaza.

How many are male, 15 to 19, carrying a gun?

Israel says Hamas deployed more than 170 children to the front lines while terrorists 'hide in shelters'
https://nypost.com/2024/01/03/news/israel-says-hamas-recruits-children-to-the-frontlines-to-deliver-messages-and-ammunition/

When an IDF soldier is facing this, what do you suggest they do?




Exclusive: Hamas, Islamic Jihad accused of using child soldiers in war against Israel
IDF recently found a stash of documents, a video and stills showing children working with terrorists
https://www.foxnews.com/world/exclusive-hamas-islamic-jihad-accused-using-child-soldiers-war-against-israel

Heisenberg

Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2024, 12:37:13 PM
Wall Street Journal reports that Tesla and SpaceX leaders are concerned about Musk's use of LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, mushrooms and ketamine.

https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-illegal-drugs-e826a9e1?st=fq2cfduw7xa05rh&mod=djemwhatsnews

Not sure if Musk's drug use contributes to the antisemitic behavior that doesn't bother Douchey and Doc at all.

Holy crap, a tech bro from Silicon Valley uses drugs!!!!

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: SoCalEagle on January 07, 2024, 02:03:31 PM
You gotta be a douche to craft the following statement:

Yesterday evening, shortly after I posted that we were launching a plagiarism review of all current MIT faculty, President Kornbluth, members of MIT's administration, and its board, I am sure that an audible collective gasp could be heard around the campus.

The good news is I think that title recently became available here on scoop.

On another note, may I remind you that Harvard had the integrity to do the right thing.  Gay plagiarized some content, but she is gone, right?  Okay, now that we have established Harvard did the right thing, let's look around and see if other bad actors are being pressured to lose their jobs or leave the public stage.  The same people who went after Harvard should be cleaning their own house right?     

Can I get an amen?

Raise your hand if you had "Ackman playing the victim" on your Culture War Bingo card.
And his sudden concern with what's "fair" is ... interesting?

Bill Ackman's Wife Jane Doe Admits to Plagiarism
No one reads any further than the headline.  Who reads articles these days anyway?
It is now the number one trending item on X with 35,600 posts versus number two which is the Princess of Wales with 3,174 posts.
Does this seem like fair journalism to you?
Does this seem like a fair way to determine whether a professor plagiarized in her dissertation 15 years ago?
Does this seem like a fair way to destroy the reputation of one of the most talented and famous designer/scientists in the world, even if she is married to billionaire?


https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1744084180785332344

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2024, 02:20:51 PM
Raise your hand if you had "Ackman playing the victim" on your Culture War Bingo card.
And his sudden concern with what's "fair" is ... interesting?

Bill Ackman's Wife Jane Doe Admits to Plagiarism
No one reads any further than the headline.  Who reads articles these days anyway?
It is now the number one trending item on X with 35,600 posts versus number two which is the Princess of Wales with 3,174 posts.
Does this seem like fair journalism to you?
Does this seem like a fair way to determine whether a professor plagiarized in her dissertation 15 years ago?
Does this seem like a fair way to destroy the reputation of one of the most talented and famous designer/scientists in the world, even if she is married to billionaire?


https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1744084180785332344

Huh
Guster is for Lovers

forgetful

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2024, 02:20:51 PM
Raise your hand if you had "Ackman playing the victim" on your Culture War Bingo card.
And his sudden concern with what's "fair" is ... interesting?

Bill Ackman's Wife Jane Doe Admits to Plagiarism
No one reads any further than the headline.  Who reads articles these days anyway?
It is now the number one trending item on X with 35,600 posts versus number two which is the Princess of Wales with 3,174 posts.
Does this seem like fair journalism to you?
Does this seem like a fair way to determine whether a professor plagiarized in her dissertation 15 years ago?
Does this seem like a fair way to destroy the reputation of one of the most talented and famous designer/scientists in the world, even if she is married to billionaire?


https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1744084180785332344

I think the fact that she admitted to committing plagiarism is a pretty fair way to ascertain whether a professor committed plagiarism.

Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2024, 02:24:02 PM
Huh

It's weird, because he was so fair to those students he publicly trashed before finding out whether they had signed onto the infamous anti-Israel letter.
It's almost like he thinks there should be different rules for people like him.

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2024, 02:20:18 PM
Are they all anti-semites like Musk, too?
Shh! We don't talk about antisemites unless they're "western progressives"! All other antisemites (or supporters of antisemites) don't count.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2024, 02:39:36 PM
It's weird, because he was so fair to those students he publicly trashed before finding out whether they had signed onto the infamous anti-Israel letter.
It's almost like he thinks there should be different rules for people like him.

It's something.  When he has a bunch of dimwits following him and worshipping him, sometimes he forgets about getting too close to the sun.  At least he'll have the dimwits
Guster is for Lovers

Heisenberg

Israel was hit with the biggest pogrom since WW2.

As noted before
On October 6, they were Israeli
On October 8, they are Jewish

Israel has responded with a unity government, vowing "never again." Poll after poll says the country is now unified in a way that was considered inconceivable before October 7—in fact, the entire Jewish Diaspora is unified in a way not seen in 75 years.

Israel is not stopping until the neighbors cannot kill Jews again.

Why is this so hard to understand?

----
The Washington Post
January 7,2023
Israel's talk of expanding war to Lebanon alarms U.S.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-s-talk-of-expanding-war-to-lebanon-alarms-us/ar-AA1mzBk3

President Biden has dispatched his top aides to the Middle East with a critical objective: Prevent a full-blown war from erupting between Israel and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah.

Israel has made clear it views as untenable the regular exchange of fire between its forces and Hezbollah along the border and may soon launch a major military operation in Lebanon.

"We prefer the path of an agreed-upon diplomatic settlement," Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said Friday, "but we are getting close to the point where the hourglass will turn over."

U.S. officials are concerned that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may see an expanded fight in Lebanon as key to his political survival amid domestic criticism of his government's failure to prevent Hamas's Oct. 7 attack, which killed an estimated 1,200 people and resulted in some 240 hostages being taken to Gaza.

Officials fear that a full-scale conflict between Israel and Lebanon would surpass the bloodshed of the 2006 Israel-Lebanon war on account of Hezbollah's substantially larger arsenal of long-range and precision weaponry. "The number of casualties in Lebanon could be anywhere from 300,000 to 500,000 and entail a massive evacuation of all of northern Israel," said Bilal Saab, a Lebanon expert at the Middle East Institute, a Washington think tank.

forgetful

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 07, 2024, 06:52:45 PM
Israel was hit with the biggest pogrom since WW2.

As noted before
On October 6, they were Israeli
On October 8, they are Jewish

Israel has responded with a unity government, vowing "never again." Poll after poll says the country is now unified in a way that was considered inconceivable before October 7—in fact, the entire Jewish Diaspora is unified in a way not seen in 75 years.

Israel is not stopping until the neighbors cannot kill Jews again.

Why is this so hard to understand?

----
The Washington Post
January 7,2023
Israel's talk of expanding war to Lebanon alarms U.S.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-s-talk-of-expanding-war-to-lebanon-alarms-us/ar-AA1mzBk3

President Biden has dispatched his top aides to the Middle East with a critical objective: Prevent a full-blown war from erupting between Israel and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah.

Israel has made clear it views as untenable the regular exchange of fire between its forces and Hezbollah along the border and may soon launch a major military operation in Lebanon.

"We prefer the path of an agreed-upon diplomatic settlement," Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said Friday, "but we are getting close to the point where the hourglass will turn over."

U.S. officials are concerned that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may see an expanded fight in Lebanon as key to his political survival amid domestic criticism of his government's failure to prevent Hamas's Oct. 7 attack, which killed an estimated 1,200 people and resulted in some 240 hostages being taken to Gaza.

Officials fear that a full-scale conflict between Israel and Lebanon would surpass the bloodshed of the 2006 Israel-Lebanon war on account of Hezbollah's substantially larger arsenal of long-range and precision weaponry. "The number of casualties in Lebanon could be anywhere from 300,000 to 500,000 and entail a massive evacuation of all of northern Israel," said Bilal Saab, a Lebanon expert at the Middle East Institute, a Washington think tank.

Everyone is aware that Israel is not stopping.

But in the process, Settlers are committing their own Pogroms (the Israeli government has admitted to this). They have major leaders advocating for genocide.

What part of that is not ok do you not understand?

Heisenberg

#4786
Quote from: forgetful on January 07, 2024, 09:01:33 PM
Everyone is aware that Israel is not stopping.

But in the process, Settlers are committing their own Pogroms (the Israeli government has admitted to this). They have major leaders advocating for genocide.

What part of that is not ok do you not understand?

The occupied territory (Judea and Sumra) is the largest land parcel in the world, with no country claiming ownership. It used to be part of Jordan until 1967 when they attacked Israel and lost it (this is what happens when you lose a war; you don't get it back). Since then, Jordan has reannounced it. Israel does not claim it as part of their country (like they do with the Golan Heights), but they do offer some security and control in this area.

Your inflammatory statement that the settlers are committing crimes assumes established law by an established government that rules over these lands. There is not, and the UN has no authority, any more than the UN can tell Milwaukee how to run the city.

So, why are the settlers committing crimes? They have every right to that land as the Palestinians. Again, no government presides over it.

Maybe if the Palestinians stop gunning down pregnant women and bus stops in this land, they can agree about who government and laws to preside over it, and the violence can stop.

Until then, I see Jews committed to "never again" protecting themselves from violent terrorists.



Things have changed since October 7; you had a majority opinion before October 7 among Israelis, and now it is a minority opinion among Jews.

Survey shows substantial support for renewal of Jewish settlement in Gaza after war
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/survey-shows-substantial-support-for-renewal-of-jewish-settlement-in-gaza-after-war/


Settlers are now considered the front line for the IDF, so "never again" becomes a reality.

The Sultan

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 07, 2024, 10:58:17 PM
So, why are the settlers committing crimes? They have every right to that land as the Palestinians. Again, no government presides over it.


Wow. So your claim is that the Palestinian National Authority, an entity legally recognized by Israel, has no legal authority over those lands. So therefore settlers have a right to simply acquire them by force.

That is absolute immoral nonsense.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 06, 2024, 03:04:02 PM
Who's in?

@BillAckman
We are going to need help with our review of @MIT faculty and affiliates. 
Please contact Fran McGill at mcgill@persq.com if your company has the capabilities to assist us.

"I don't care about the culture war"

Man, I haven't seen someone dick ride someone this hard in some time.  And I watch quite a few KC Chiefs games.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 06, 2024, 06:40:42 PM
Remember that Ackman is a short seller and activist investor. This effectively means his job is to take companies away from their billionaire owners. It is brutal and ugly business (and very lucrative if you do it well, like he does).

In other words, he lives in a world of conflict and chaos. That is what Pershing Square (his company) does for a living.

So now that it is "game on," Ackman has the mentality and the resources to do exactly what he says. This is not bluster when it comes from him. He lives for this.

Are we all happy that Pandora's box has been opened?

This is a long tweet; here is an excerpt.

---

(my highlights)
https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1743792224020619450

Bill Ackman
@BillAckman

Last night, no one at @MIT had a good night's sleep.

Yesterday evening, shortly after I posted that we were launching a plagiarism review of all current MIT faculty, President Kornbluth, members of MIT's administration, and its board, I am sure that an audible collective gasp could be heard around the campus.

Why? Well, every faculty member knows that once their work is targeted by AI, they will be outed. No body of written work in academia can survive the power of AI searching for missing quotation marks, failures to paraphrase appropriately, and/or the failure to properly credit the work of others.

But it wasn't just the MIT faculty that did not sleep last night. The @Harvard faculty, its governing board members, and its administrative leadership did not sleep either. Because why would we stop at MIT?

Don't we have to do a deep dive into academic integrity at Harvard as well?

What about Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Dartmouth? You get the point.

While we are going to do a detailed review of plagiarism at MIT, we are not going to be the only ones who do so.

Every college and university in the world is going to have to do the same for themselves. They will do so because they will need to validate all plagiarism accusations, or someone else will do it for them.



Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2024, 10:11:08 AM
I now understand why your market predictions are so woefully wrong. Your (mis)understanding of how the market works is formed by too many viewings of Wall Street and Billions.

No, he's just mentally ill.  No reason to go further than that.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 07, 2024, 02:42:40 PM
It's something.  When he has a bunch of dimwits following him and worshipping him, sometimes he forgets about getting too close to the sun.  At least he'll have the dimwits

Musk or Ackman?  ;D

JWags85

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 07, 2024, 11:07:55 AM

Randomly speaking of billionaire hedge fund managers ... I might add that Bucks owner Marc Lasry was used as a model for KGB in the movie "Rounders." Lasry is a legendary poker player and travels the world for million-dollar table stakes.

lol wut?! According to whom?

Heisenberg

#4793
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 08, 2024, 04:49:10 AM

Wow. So your claim is that the Palestinian National Authority, an entity legally recognized by Israel, has no legal authority over those lands. So therefore settlers have a right to simply acquire them by force.

That is absolute immoral nonsense.



The nature of this response shows you do not understand the situation in Judea and Sumera (or the West Bank)

It was divided it up three ways according to the Olso accords.

Area A is Palestinian Natinal Authority controlled
Area B is controlled by both
Area C is Israeli controlled

So when Settlers and Palestinians fight in Area B, what law is broken? When Settlers shoot at Palestinians in Area C, what laws were broken?

All terrorist attacks by Palestinians are in Areas B and C because Jews are not allowed in Area A, they will be shot and killed on sight.

I know your answer, Palestinians are oppressed, Jews are the oppressors.

If only the Jews would shut up and die, then stability can return to the region, right?



The Sultan

I am fully aware of the situation in the West Bank. That is why I am absolutely astounded by your statement because it is wrong. You are stating that settlers acquiring a Palestinian's property is OK because of the governance structure of the area, and that is simply not accurate.

Israeli's are only allowed to settle on state owned land authorized for settlement. But that's not the only thing happening. Israeli's are settling on land not authorized for settlement. Oftentimes taking it by force. This is in violation of not only their agreement with the PNA, but Israeli law. 

But Israel is not enforcing its own laws in that respect. In fact, it has often retroactively authorized the settlements on these lands - suddenly turning what was an illegal activity into something legal.

Maybe do a little research instead of copying and pasting.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 08, 2024, 08:03:17 AM
"I don't care about the culture war"

Man, I haven't seen someone dick ride someone this hard in some time.  And I watch quite a few KC Chiefs games.

Ackman complaining about people not reading past the headline was a subtweet of Heisey
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

forgetful

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 08, 2024, 10:31:33 AM


The nature of this response shows you do not understand the situation in Judea and Sumera (or the West Bank)

It was divided it up three ways according to the Olso accords.

Area A is Palestinian Natinal Authority controlled
Area B is controlled by both
Area C is Israeli controlled

So when Settlers and Palestinians fight in Area B, what law is broken? When Settlers shoot at Palestinians in Area C, what laws were broken?

All terrorist attacks by Palestinians are in Areas B and C because Jews are not allowed in Area A, they will be shot and killed on sight.

I know your answer, Palestinians are oppressed, Jews are the oppressors.

If only the Jews would shut up and die, then stability can return to the region, right?

In a long series of posts by you that make no sense, this may be one of your least informed. At this point, you are either an expert troll, or you lack any common sense, or knowledge on these topics.

The only part of this that is accurate is that the West Bank is separated into 3 zones, A, B and C.

I'm going back to not uncovering your posts and leaving them on ignore, because there is no attempt at honest discussion from you.

Heisenberg

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 08, 2024, 11:03:07 AM
I am fully aware of the situation in the West Bank. That is why I am absolutely astounded by your statement because it is wrong. You are stating that settlers acquiring a Palestinian's property is OK because of the governance structure of the area, and that is simply not accurate.

Israeli's are only allowed to settle on state owned land authorized for settlement. But that's not the only thing happening. Israeli's are settling on land not authorized for settlement. Oftentimes taking it by force. This is in violation of not only their agreement with the PNA, but Israeli law. 

But Israel is not enforcing its own laws in that respect. In fact, it has often retroactively authorized the settlements on these lands - suddenly turning what was an illegal activity into something legal.

Maybe do a little research instead of copying and pasting.


And why don't you point out terrorist attacks are never in Area A (controlled by the PNA)?

Why? Because the Palestinians have ethnically cleansed the area and intend to keep it that way. (so, sorry if the ignorant calls that Israel is ethnically cleansing Gaza are just signals of poster ignorance as to where and who is doing the cleansing.)

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-699262

That is unless you are Israeli or an Israeli passport holder, in which case, it is forbidden to enter Ramallah under any circumstances.

The reason is that Ramallah is in Area A, and as such it is illegal for Israelis to enter. Area A includes eight Palestinian cities, each under the full control of the Palestinian Authority: Nablus, Jenin, Tulkarm, Kalkilya, Ramallah, Bethlehem, Jericho and 80 percent of Hebron.


"Israelis are banned from entering Palestinian Authority territories... entering endangers their lives and endangers the security forces who are called to rescue them."


----

Settler disputes are in Area B. See the map, these are very small areas.

I suggest you find a place for the Palestinians if you are worried about them. I would suggest the country the British created for them a hundred years ago ... Jordan.

Because I'm worried about more Jews getting killed.




Pakuni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 08, 2024, 05:00:13 PM

And why don't you point out terrorist attacks are never in Area A (controlled by the PNA)?

Why? Because the Palestinians have ethnically cleansed the area and intend to keep it that way. (so, sorry if the ignorant calls that Israel is ethnically cleansing Gaza are just signals of poster ignorance as to where and who is doing the cleansing.)

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-699262

That is unless you are Israeli or an Israeli passport holder, in which case, it is forbidden to enter Ramallah under any circumstances.

The reason is that Ramallah is in Area A, and as such it is illegal for Israelis to enter. Area A includes eight Palestinian cities, each under the full control of the Palestinian Authority: Nablus, Jenin, Tulkarm, Kalkilya, Ramallah, Bethlehem, Jericho and 80 percent of Hebron.


"Israelis are banned from entering Palestinian Authority territories... entering endangers their lives and endangers the security forces who are called to rescue them."



1. What you conveniently fail to mention is that it's the Israeli government, not the PA, that has declared it illegal for Israelis to enter Ramallah. Claiming that this is evidence of ethnic cleansing by Palestinians is obviously dishonest.
2. What you also conveniently fail to mention is that, according to the link you shared, Israelis regularly visit Ramallah nonetheless, without being killed.
3. Could you cite some examples of Israeli visitors being kidnapped in Ramallah and needing rescue by the IDF, as this article suggests is a certain outcome? Genuinely curious.


The Sultan

Posts something wrong...shifts goalposts...posts something wrong again.

Just a typical Heisey day here on Scoop.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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