Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

No.

Person A: Some Doctor in the Arts plagiarized frequently.

Person B: Everyone in the Arts does it. Not intentionally, but because they're lazy and forgetful.

Lenny: So you're saying Doctors in the Arts are lazy and forgetful

Pakuni: What he said doesn't mean what it means. How dare you.

Dentist:

[Heisenberg]

Who's in?

@BillAckman
We are going to need help with our review of @MIT faculty and affiliates. 
Please contact Fran McGill at mcgill@persq.com if your company has the capabilities to assist us.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/05/un-warns-gaza-is-now-uninhabitable-as-war-continues?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Awful

[forgetful]

So our most esteemed scholars in the arts are, in your words, typically lazy and forgetful. I'm not surprised.

No.

Person A: LeBron made a lazy defensive play last night.

Person B: Some, if not most, NBA players make a lazy defensive play during their career.

Lenny: Person B says the best NBA players are lazy human beings! That's no surprise!

This is a correct summary of the tone of my post.

We loosely say people like Lebron made a lazy defensive play, or forgot their defensive assignment, because we are comparing them to the absolute best in the world, comparing them to a level the average human couldn't even comprehend. No one makes the conclusion that when we say that, we mean that the best NBA players are lazy (or forgetful), because such a conclusion is inane.

Similarly...

These authors likely read 100's if not 1000's of sources in putting their publications together, all while being a full-time educator, holding administrative responsibilities, being mentors to young experts, and while editing/reviewing other peoples works. The average human has a hard time even understanding most of these 100's if not 1000's of materials, nonetheless dissecting them, and integrating them into sometimes massive independent scholarly works.

As an example, my colleague just finished a work which included over 1500 citations (that's referencing 1500 sources, the numbers of total citations is even higher). To culminate those citations, they probably read 3-5x that number of papers/books/resources. In such works, they will miss some citations, and likely miss assign a citation, because they either forgot/misremembered which source it came from, or didn't go through each citation with a fine tooth comb to make sure there were no errors (laziness), because they trusted that reviewers/editors might catch any errors.

Not to mention, that some of these aspects aren't even directly written by them, as they have co-authors.

With all this, it is not uncommon for areas to lack citations, which at face value appears to be plagiarism, but is not intentional and when reviewed by other scholars (which is what happened at Harvard) are deemed unintentional and not misconduct.

People went after a single person, and wouldn't let up until she was forced to resign. I'll let you ask, why was she singled out. I'll also let you ask, why they aren't going after Ackman's wife in the same way (copying word for word entire paragraphs without quotes). If they want to find others, they will, because it is like going back over tape and finding mistakes that Lebron made in a game.

I'll also ask you why you were "not surprised." I have my suspicions, but before you throw stones, I'd advise trying to write and publish some of these scholarly works. Maybe you have, I don't know you, but based on your response, I'm guessing you haven't.

Where I made a mistake is in posting on that matter at all, as it doesn't pertain at all to Israel, but instead was another example of identity politics and a strange culture war some feel like they need to fight.

Now, maybe we can get away from being hyper critical of scholars, and instead focus on a major crisis in Israel/Gaza.

[Heisenberg]

Remember that Ackman is a short seller and activist investor. This effectively means his job is to take companies away from their billionaire owners. It is brutal and ugly business (and very lucrative if you do it well, like he does).

In other words, he lives in a world of conflict and chaos. That is what Pershing Square (his company) does for a living.

So now that it is "game on," Ackman has the mentality and the resources to do exactly what he says. This is not bluster when it comes from him. He lives for this.

Are we all happy that Pandora's box has been opened?

This is a long tweet; here is an excerpt.

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(my highlights)
https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1743792224020619450

Bill Ackman
@BillAckman

Last night, no one at @MIT had a good night's sleep.

Yesterday evening, shortly after I posted that we were launching a plagiarism review of all current MIT faculty, President Kornbluth, members of MIT's administration, and its board, I am sure that an audible collective gasp could be heard around the campus.

Why? Well, every faculty member knows that once their work is targeted by AI, they will be outed. No body of written work in academia can survive the power of AI searching for missing quotation marks, failures to paraphrase appropriately, and/or the failure to properly credit the work of others.

But it wasn't just the MIT faculty that did not sleep last night. The @Harvard faculty, its governing board members, and its administrative leadership did not sleep either. Because why would we stop at MIT?

Don't we have to do a deep dive into academic integrity at Harvard as well?

What about Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Dartmouth? You get the point.

While we are going to do a detailed review of plagiarism at MIT, we are not going to be the only ones who do so.

Every college and university in the world is going to have to do the same for themselves. They will do so because they will need to validate all plagiarism accusations, or someone else will do it for them.

[The Sultan]

LOL. Sure. Everyone is scared.

[Pakuni]

Remember that Ackman is a short seller and activist investor. This effectively means his job is to take companies away from their billionaire owners. It is brutal and ugly business (and very lucrative if you do it well, like he does).

In other words, he lives in a world of conflict and chaos. That is what Pershing Square (his company) does for a living.

So now that it is "game on," Ackman has the mentality and the resources to do exactly what he says. This is not bluster when it comes from him. He lives for this.

I'm old enough to remember when a bunch of redditors took down Melvin Capital.

[Pakuni]

Who's in?

@BillAckman
We are going to need help with our review of @MIT faculty and affiliates. 
Please contact Fran McGill at mcgill@persq.com if your company has the capabilities to assist us.

Cyber Ninjas on line 1.

[MU82]

At least all this nonsense is taking focus away from it being the third anniversary of one of the worst days in our nation's history - a day when domestic terrorists, at the behest of the then-President of the United States, staged a violent coup attempt against America.

Hopefully our democracy can continue to survive, even as the ex-president - a racist and xenophobe who accepts and solicit supports from antisemites - tries to regain power. One of his main campaign promises is to pardon insurrectionists and seditionists who attacked the United States.

[NCMUFan]

Seems to be that "Doctor" indicates the ability to discover or do original work.  If the "Doctor" plagiarizes, appears to be more like a "Quack".  If taking from another person's work, give the deserved reference.

[4everwarriors]

At least all this nonsense is taking focus away from it being the third anniversary of one of the worst days in our nation's history - a day when domestic terrorists, at the behest of the then-President of the United States, staged a violent coup attempt against America.

Hopefully our democracy can continue to survive, even as the ex-president - a racist and xenophobe who accepts and solicit supports from antisemites - tries to regain power. One of his main campaign promises is to pardon insurrectionists and seditionists who attacked the United States.

Pure fiction, aina?

[Uncle Rico]

At least all this nonsense is taking focus away from it being the third anniversary of one of the worst days in our nation's history - a day when domestic terrorists, at the behest of the then-President of the United States, staged a violent coup attempt against America.

Hopefully our democracy can continue to survive, even as the ex-president - a racist and xenophobe who accepts and solicit supports from antisemites - tries to regain power. One of his main campaign promises is to pardon insurrectionists and seditionists who attacked the United States.

I wouldn't count on it.  The law and order party have turned a blind eye but the hypocrisy on all subjects isn't a surprise

[Heisenberg]

I'm old enough to remember when a bunch of redditors took down Melvin Capital.

Cyber Ninjas on line 1.

Yup, it's an ugly and difficult world these guys live in, where their business model is to profit by ruining billionaires. They fight to win and relish the battle.

Ackman is up for the fight; it is what he does. Is the faculty lounge at MIT and the board of Trustees also up for it? Is this what they signed up for? It is what Ackman signed up for.

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BTW, Gabe Plotkin of Melvin Capital closed their hedge funds in disgrace and last year paid Michael Jordan $3 billion for the Charlotte Hornets.

And in the end, nearly every cyber ninja wound up losing on Gamestop.

So who really lost in this episode?

[Pakuni]

Yup, it's an ugly and difficult world these guys live in, where their business model is to profit by ruining billionaires. They fight to win and relish the battle.

I now understand why your market predictions are so woefully wrong. Your (mis)understanding of how the market works is formed by too many viewings of Wall Street and Billions.

[Heisenberg]

I now understand why your market predictions are so woefully wrong. Your (mis)understanding of how the market works is formed by too many viewings of Wall Street and Billions.

Who do you think Bobby Axelrod is modeled after?

(Einhorn is in the same business and best friends with Ackman)
Damien Lewis, the actor playing Axelrod, said that he read hedge fund manager David Einhorn's book, "Fooling Some of the People All of the Time," to prepare for the role. And it is merely a coincidence that Bobby Axelrod shares the same initials as activist investor and Pershing Square Capital founder Bill Ackman.
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Billions dramatizes life on Wall Street–but not by much. Axe, with his cold eyes and algorithmic mind, is a doppelgänger for a number of hedge-fund wizards. Axe's demeanor also calls to mind Bill Ackman, a titan who actually keeps an antique ejector seat in his offices as a disciplinary message to business partners.
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And some Wall Streeters are convinced Bobby Axelrod is based on Bill Ackman. "They say, 'Ackman, Axelrod. They have the same initials.' But Bobby Axelrod isn't based on any real person," Lewis said.

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Randomly speaking of billionaire hedge fund managers ... I might add that Bucks owner Marc Lasry was used as a model for KGB in the movie "Rounders." Lasry is a legendary poker player and travels the world for million-dollar table stakes.

And speaking of poker, David Einhorn (from Milwaukee and a big fan of MU basketball) has made the WSOP final table twice.

[Pakuni]

Who do you think Bobby Axelrod is modeled after?

Not Bill Ackman.

[tower912]

If the Civil War could have been avoided through negotiation, so could this conflict.

[Jockey]

Pure fiction, aina?

What do we call a person who supports those who attempted to overthrow the US government?

[forgetful]

While Not a Serious Person continues to fight a culture war, over 10 children a day are losing either 1 or more limbs a day in Gaza.

[The Sultan]

While Not a Serious Person continues to fight a culture war, over 10 children a day are losing either 1 or more limbs a day in Gaza.

Bill Ackman didn't tweet about it so Heisey has no idea what to think about that.

[MU82]

Wall Street Journal reports that Tesla and SpaceX leaders are concerned about Musk's use of LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, mushrooms and ketamine.

https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-illegal-drugs-e826a9e1?st=fq2cfduw7xa05rh&mod=djemwhatsnews

Not sure if Musk's drug use contributes to the antisemitic behavior that doesn't bother Douchey and Doc at all.

[jesmu84]

Wall Street Journal reports that Tesla and SpaceX leaders are concerned about Musk's use of LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, mushrooms and ketamine.

https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-illegal-drugs-e826a9e1?st=fq2cfduw7xa05rh&mod=djemwhatsnews

Not sure if Musk's drug use contributes to the antisemitic behavior that doesn't bother Douchey and Doc at all.

Witchhunt.

Musk being cancelled for his opposition to the establishment

[tower912]

Just going to turn Rico and Newsdreams into fans.

[Uncle Rico]

Just going to turn Rico and Newsdreams into fans.

No, unlike some, I denounce all anti-semitism

[SoCalEagle]

You gotta be a douche to craft the following statement:

Yesterday evening, shortly after I posted that we were launching a plagiarism review of all current MIT faculty, President Kornbluth, members of MIT's administration, and its board, I am sure that an audible collective gasp could be heard around the campus.

The good news is I think that title recently became available here on scoop.

On another note, may I remind you that Harvard had the integrity to do the right thing.  Gay plagiarized some content, but she is gone, right?  Okay, now that we have established Harvard did the right thing, let's look around and see if other bad actors are being pressured to lose their jobs or leave the public stage.  The same people who went after Harvard should be cleaning their own house right?     

Can I get an amen?