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The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 03, 2024, 03:56:28 AM


Nope, just the truth. Toss Harvard in the dumpster too for being complicit, aina?

White, heterosexual, Christian male has been by far the most protected class in America since the country was founded. It since also has become the most self-declared victim class.

Woe is you. You can't catch a break.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


Pakuni

What's the difference between ethnic cleansing and "voluntary resettlement" after you've been bombed out of your home?

The "voluntary" resettlement of Palestinians from Gaza is slowly becoming a key official policy of the government, with a senior official saying that Israel has held talks with several countries for their potential absorption.
Zman Israel, The Times of Israel's Hebrew sister site, has learned that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition is conducting secret contacts for accepting thousands of immigrants from Gaza with Congo, in addition to other nations.
"Congo will be willing to take in migrants, and we're in talks with others," a senior source in the security cabinet said.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-in-talks-with-congo-and-other-countries-on-gaza-voluntary-migration-plan/

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

Quote from: MU82 on January 03, 2024, 08:58:14 AM
White, heterosexual, Christian male has been by far the most protected class in America since the country was founded. It since also has become the most self-declared victim class.

Woe is you. You can't catch a break.



Depends on context, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUBurrow

Quote from: Pakuni on January 03, 2024, 09:15:38 AM
What's the difference between ethnic cleansing and "voluntary resettlement" after you've been bombed out of your home?

The "voluntary" resettlement of Palestinians from Gaza is slowly becoming a key official policy of the government, with a senior official saying that Israel has held talks with several countries for their potential absorption.
Zman Israel, The Times of Israel's Hebrew sister site, has learned that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition is conducting secret contacts for accepting thousands of immigrants from Gaza with Congo, in addition to other nations.
"Congo will be willing to take in migrants, and we're in talks with others," a senior source in the security cabinet said.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-in-talks-with-congo-and-other-countries-on-gaza-voluntary-migration-plan/

Holy crap this reads like a manual for how to nurture early-stage start up terrorist cells.

WellsstreetWanderer

 Curious that neighboring Arab states have said they will take no Palestinians.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 03, 2024, 10:54:55 AM
Curious that neighboring Arab states have said they will take no Palestinians.

Not really.
They believe Palestinians shouldn't be forced out of their homeland and have no interest accommodating Israel.
It's about the least curious thing ever.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on January 03, 2024, 11:15:33 AM
Not really.
They believe Palestinians shouldn't be forced out of their homeland and have no interest accommodating Israel.
It's about the least curious thing ever.


Exactly. It's really not that hard to understand.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 03, 2024, 10:54:55 AM
Curious that neighboring Arab states have said they will take no Palestinians.

No more curious than America not taking any fellow Christians
Guster is for Lovers

lawdog77

Quote from: Pakuni on January 03, 2024, 11:15:33 AM
Not really.
They believe Palestinians shouldn't be forced out of their homeland and have no interest accommodating Israel.
It's about the least curious thing ever.
IMHO, that's not the whole truth. If so, that would mean their hatred for Israel>their empathy for innocent Palestinians who are dying. I think its a combination of that, and not wanting to actually house the refugees. Do you really believe that if the Palestinian refugees went to Egypt until an agreement was reached (Say 6 months), they wouldn't be allowed back to Gaza?

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on January 03, 2024, 12:13:45 PM
IMHO, that's not the whole truth. If so, that would mean their hatred for Israel>their empathy for innocent Palestinians who are dying. I think its a combination of that, and not wanting to actually house the refugees. Do you really believe that if the Palestinian refugees went to Egypt until an agreement was reached (Say 6 months), they wouldn't be allowed back to Gaza?

According to the article linked above, they would not be.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on January 03, 2024, 12:13:45 PM
IMHO, that's not the whole truth. If so, that would mean their hatred for Israel>their empathy for innocent Palestinians who are dying. I think its a combination of that, and not wanting to actually house the refugees. Do you really believe that if the Palestinian refugees went to Egypt until an agreement was reached (Say 6 months), they wouldn't be allowed back to Gaza?

I think you''re offering a false choice based on a false premise.
The false choice is the suggestion that the only options for Arab countries are 1) Accept (and house, feed, provide for) a couple million refugees for an indeterminate time frame or 2) they don't care about dying Palestinians.
Obviously there are other options, like working to broker a peace that doesn't require millions of Palestinians to abandon their historical homeland and live in Congo (or Egypt or Sudan or Turkey or anywhere else).

The false premise is that they would be allowed to go back to the rubble of Gaza.
If you believe the Israeli government wants them back in Gaza and doesn't see "voluntary resettlement" as permanent, you're not paying attention to what the Israelis are saying.

And no, I don't think surrounding nations are eager to absorb a couple million poor, homeless and in some cases radicalized, Palestinians. Why would they be?


lawdog77

Quote from: Pakuni on January 03, 2024, 12:32:21 PM
I think you''re offering a false choice based on a false premise.
The false choice is the suggestion that the only options for Arab countries are 1) Accept (and house, feed, provide for) a couple million refugees for an indeterminate time frame or 2) they don't care about dying Palestinians.
Obviously there are other options, like working to broker a peace that doesn't require millions of Palestinians to abandon their historical homeland and live in Congo (or Egypt or Sudan or Turkey or anywhere else).

The false premise is that they would be allowed to go back to the rubble of Gaza.
If you believe the Israeli government wants them back in Gaza and doesn't see "voluntary resettlement" as permanent, you're not paying attention to what the Israelis are saying.

And no, I don't think surrounding nations are eager to absorb a couple million poor, homeless and in some cases radicalized, Palestinians. Why would they be?
Well, you implied that the only reason why other countries aren't accepting them is because these countries do not want to appease Israel.
I think most would argue that not allowing the Palestinians back would be an act of aggression by Israel. Curious how the rest of the world would react to this.

Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on January 03, 2024, 12:49:55 PM
Well, you implied that the only reason why other countries aren't accepting them is because these countries do not want to appease Israel.

But that's not what I wrote. In fact, the first reason I offered was "They believe Palestinians shouldn't be forced out of their homeland."

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I think most would argue that not allowing the Palestinians back would be an act of aggression by Israel. Curious how the rest of the world would react to this.

Well, Israel doesn't exactly have a history of caring how the world reacts to its actions, does it?
But all I can say is read what the Israeli government officials are saying and then come back and tell us how this is being proposed as a temporary solution.
From the article I linked:

On Tuesday, Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel told Zman that "voluntary migration is the best and most realistic program for the day after the fighting ends."

Note the bolded. She's not suggesting this as something to be done until an agreement is reached to end the fighting. She's suggesting this happens AFTER the fighting. Why would they move the Palestinians out after the fighting if the intent is to allow them back?

Continuing ...

Gamliel said: "At the end of the war, Hamas rule will collapse. There are no municipal authorities; the civilian population will be entirely dependent on humanitarian aid. There will be no work, and 60% of Gaza's agricultural land will become security buffer zones."

Again, their stance is that there will be nothing there for the Gazans to return to ... no government, no jobs and no food, because we're seizing 60% of their farm land. Again, how do you read these comments and see "voluntary resettlement" as a temporary proposal?

jesmu84

Israeli ministers are now stating out loud that this is an ethnic cleansing.

The Sultan

This is exactly the over-reaction that Iran was hoping for.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 02, 2024, 04:29:53 PM
It is really about 3 to 6 people. And I get at least that many DMs that encourage me, and they have "choice words" about you specifically. Hards is not far behind you.

Lol.  If that's the case, people around here need to get a life.  But we both know that no one is doing that.

Pure fantasy.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 02, 2024, 06:39:25 PM
I agree with this.

I'll take the L. 

And I'm glad you agree to the larger point ... that Obama was a bigger war criminal than Bibi, and there is a double standard in judging Israel.

Literally every President in the US for the last 100+ years is a war criminal.  Bibi too.

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Quote from: jesmu84 on January 03, 2024, 01:04:16 PM
Israeli ministers are now stating out loud that this is an ethnic cleansing.

What?! I was told this wasn't the case when I posted about it!
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