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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on December 13, 2023, 07:51:39 PM
Biden's rating in that poll was 68%. Trump and Obama peaked at 71%.
Seems a) pretty negligible and b) evidence that he's very popular in Israel.

How did the most virulent antisemite in the world ever have a 71% approval rating in Israel?

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 06:46:12 PM


So you think the Buffoon loves Jews? He's trying to straddle both sides of the fence not to piss off any potential voter. He doesn't give 2 chits about Israel or Jews in general, hey?

Yes, I think Biden loves Jews.

He didn't excuse neo-Nazis who were chanting "Jews will not replace us." He doesn't climb into bed with Putin. He doesn't sell his soul to Tucker and MTG and QAnon. He didn't get praised by David Duke. He didn't tell an antisemitic mob to "stand back and stand by." He didn't use Hitler's language about his enemies. And he didn't break bread with an admitted Jew-hater who would like to wipe Jews off the face of the earth.

He also didn't foment a violent, cop-bashing coup attempt against his own country; didn't tell the Republican secretary of state from Georgia to "find" him votes; didn't have to shutter his university and charity because of rampant fraud; and other fun things ...

But I digress. We're talking about your hero's willingness to support and accept support from antisemites.

Something you said you would NEVER accept. You said it. Nobody here forced you to say it.

So if your BDS won't let you vote for Biden, vote third party or skip the election. Just stop pretending you're the Joseph McCarthy of antisemitism. Because if you were, your hero would be among the first to go.

But nice try.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

I don't believe Trump is antisemitic. He fulfilled his campaign promise to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, established the Abraham Accords, strangled Iran's oil exports, has Jewish grandchildren since his daughter married Kushner and converted to Judaism, and is one of the largest American Christian donors to Israel, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

muwarrior69

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2023, 03:54:42 AM
I don't believe Trump is antisemitic. He fulfilled his campaign promise to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, established the Abraham Accords, strangled Iran's oil exports, has Jewish grandchildren since his daughter married Kushner and converted to Judaism, and is one of the largest American Christian donors to Israel, hey?

Quote from: MU82 on December 13, 2023, 09:37:10 PM
Yes, I think Biden loves Jews.

He didn't excuse neo-Nazis who were chanting "Jews will not replace us." He doesn't climb into bed with Putin. He doesn't sell his soul to Tucker and MTG and QAnon. He didn't get praised by David Duke. He didn't tell an antisemitic mob to "stand back and stand by." He didn't use Hitler's language about his enemies. And he didn't break bread with an admitted Jew-hater who would like to wipe Jews off the face of the earth.

He also didn't foment a violent, cop-bashing coup attempt against his own country; didn't tell the Republican secretary of state from Georgia to "find" him votes; didn't have to shutter his university and charity because of rampant fraud; and other fun things ...

But I digress. We're talking about your hero's willingness to support and accept support from antisemites.

Something you said you would NEVER accept. You said it. Nobody here forced you to say it.

So if your BDS won't let you vote for Biden, vote third party or skip the election. Just stop pretending you're the Joseph McCarthy of antisemitism. Because if you were, your hero would be among the first to go.

But nice try.

I thought there was no politics here. I guess I was wrong.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on December 13, 2023, 07:53:49 PM
I'd be more concerned with Joe saying something like this when he's the leader of a jewish population almost exactly the size of Israel.

"Were there no Israel, there would not be a Jew in the world who is safe."

https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/joe-biden-without-israel-jews-wouldnt-be-safe-anywhere-yoewdict

Really curious as to what he meant there because to imply the US is less safe than Israel is certainly something, just from a purely geopolitical standpoint.

Could have just been rambling but to imply the safety of Americans domestically is wholly dependent on a foreign country across an ocean is alarming rhetoric.

Well, he's Joe Biden, so he probably wasn't thinking, as usual.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 13, 2023, 09:01:55 PM
How did the most virulent antisemite in the world ever have a 71% approval rating in Israel?

Because he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv.

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 14, 2023, 05:07:52 AM
I thought there was no politics here. I guess I was wrong.

"Biden hates Jews!" "Well, yeah, so Trump hates Jews, too!" "Yeah, well, Biden is worse, so I'm voting for Trump!" "Yeah, well, Trump is actually worse, so I'm voting for Biden!" Good grief, I'm taking your stance now MU69. What a disgrace.

The war is a disgrace, Hamas is abhorrent, and the Jewish response is now, in my opinion, crossed into beyond the original intent. The Hamas act on 10/7 (among countless others) was disgusting. The Jewish response was supported. Now, we are seeing how every opportunist can take advantage of a heartbreaking humanitarian crisis and disgusting terrorism for their benefit. Once again, the people lose.

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2023, 03:54:42 AM
I don't believe Trump is antisemitic. He fulfilled his campaign promise to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, established the Abraham Accords, strangled Iran's oil exports, has Jewish grandchildren since his daughter married Kushner and converted to Judaism, and is one of the largest American Christian donors to Israel, hey?

Trump will be pro-Israel when it benefits Trump.
Trump will play footsie with antisemitic bigots when it benefits Trump.
Trump will be racist when it benefits Trump.
Trump will kiss up to BLM - as he recently did - when it benefits Trump.
Trump will be loyal to those around him when it benefits Trump.
Trump will throw allies and supporters under the bus when it benefits Trump.

Trump has no principles, beliefs or values beyond doing what he believes is in the best interests of himself and enhancing his wealth and power. I don't think he's antisemitic because that would require him to actually believe in something. Anyone who believes anything different at this point is a maroon.

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on December 14, 2023, 09:05:00 AM
Trump will be pro-Israel when it benefits Trump.
Trump will play footsie with antisemitic bigots when it benefits Trump.
Trump will be racist when it benefits Trump.
Trump will kiss up to BLM - as he recently did - when it benefits Trump.
Trump will be loyal to those around him when it benefits Trump.
Trump will throw allies and supporters under the bus when it benefits Trump.

Trump has no principles, beliefs or values beyond doing what he believes is in the best interests of himself and enhancing his wealth and power. I don't think he's antisemitic because that would require him to actually believe in something. Anyone who believes anything different at this point is a maroon.

Good synopsis.

The one thing we know about the 91-felony Criminal Defendant is that he accepts and solicits support from antisemites. Some who bend the knee to him say that doesn't make him an antisemite. But one here who bends the knee to the disgraced former president said he would never vote for a candidate who supports antisemitism -- and this felonious candidate obviously does that at every turn. Very fine people David Duke and Nick Fuentes LOVE him!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Trump is no different than any other politician including the Buffoon. We have no statesmen. They are all attracted to politics for personal gain and power that's why there are politicians who have had 55 year careers in government and counting. At least Trump did not take a salary while in office.
As for the upcoming election, which btw, is critically important going forward, it may come down to two old farts who have no business trying to run this country. One has no moral compass and literally can't find his way off a stage without help and the other will sit in the grey bar hotel, come hell or high water, if the dems are granted their wish, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2023, 09:53:52 AM
Trump is no different than any other politician including the Buffoon. We have no statesmen. They are all attracted to politics for personal gain and power that's why there are politicians who have had 55 year careers in government and counting. At least Trump did not take a salary while in office.
As for the upcoming election, which btw, is critically important going forward, it may come down to two old farts who have no business trying to run this country. One has no moral compass and literally can't find his way off a stage without help and the other will sit in the grey bar hotel, come hell or high water, if the dems are granted their wish, hey?
The funniest part is you think Trump has a moral compass. 


Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2023, 09:53:52 AM
Trump is no different than any other politician ...

Stopped here, because this is objectively false, and I'm sorry if you really believe this.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on December 14, 2023, 10:15:23 AM
Stopped here, because this is objectively false, and I'm sorry if you really believe this.

It's called copium
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

He fleeced taxpayers over and over and over again, forcing the Secret Service and the rest of his entourage to pay premium rates to stay at Mar-A-Lago and his other properties. Never in the history of our great democratic republic had a president personally reaped financial benefits - millions and millions of dollars - in this way.

So yeah ... he conned his cultists into thinking he didn't take a "salary." What rubes.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 14, 2023, 09:57:04 AM
The funniest part is you think Trump has a moral compass.
I thought the funniest part was about him not taking a salary.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

4everwarriors

Well, paying the BOTUS is like pissin' in da ocean. The check might as well be made out ta B.O., hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2023, 12:35:15 PM
Well, paying the BOTUS is like pissin' in da ocean. The check might as well be made out ta B.O., hey?
4QQver
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2023, 12:35:15 PM
Well, paying the BOTUS is like pissin' in da ocean. The check might as well be made out ta B.O., hey?

There it is
Guster is for Lovers

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on December 14, 2023, 09:05:00 AM
Trump will be pro-Israel when it benefits Trump.
Trump will play footsie with antisemitic bigots when it benefits Trump.
Trump will be racist when it benefits Trump.
Trump will kiss up to BLM - as he recently did - when it benefits Trump.
Trump will be loyal to those around him when it benefits Trump.
Trump will throw allies and supporters under the bus when it benefits Trump.

Trump has no principles, beliefs or values beyond doing what he believes is in the best interests of himself and enhancing his wealth and power. I don't think he's antisemitic because that would require him to actually believe in something. Anyone who believes anything different at this point is a maroon.

I agree 100%. And if you substitute "Biden" for "Trump" I'd still agree.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 14, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
I agree 100%. And if you substitute "Biden" for "Trump" I'd still agree.

Yeah, its not exactly the same here.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 14, 2023, 12:26:09 PM
I thought the funniest part was about him not taking a salary.

Not taking 400k a year when claiming to be a multi billionaire anyway is actually a gesture that we should all base our votes on. Big difference maker
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Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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MuggsyB

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 08, 2023, 04:44:54 PM
Yes.  I'm glad you're figuring this out, finally.  The entire reason that the state of Israel isn't well liked isn't because they're Jewish.  It's because the country was created at the peril of the existing population.  Muslims and Jewish people lived side by side peacefully for hundreds of years.  There is nothing inherently anti-Judaism about Islam.

Why were Hamas terrorists arrested today in Germany and Denmark?

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 14, 2023, 02:07:36 PM
Why were Hamas terrorists arrested today in Germany and Denmark?

Because they were planning an antisemitic terror plot? Is this some sort of crappy attempt gotcha or do think that Hamas represents Islam in totality?
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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