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Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 13, 2023, 12:59:45 PM
Your wrong. Like him or not, Musk is absolutely a genius.

I don't know one Republican enamored with Putin. You must hang in a different group.

Many are illegals, many are seeking asylum. Are wonder why the border is overwhelmed with asylum speakers? Couldn't be because the current occupant of the White House welcomed them with open arms? Tantamount to open borders.

1.  VERY debatable.  He started sniffing his own farts and doing too much ketamine...

2.  Strange, there are more than a few walking the halls of congress.

3.  We ruined their home country and they are left with little option but to flee.  It sure would be nice to accommodate the people who are trying to escape murder and ransom.  That'd be downright American of us!

Jockey

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 02:09:41 PM


Its all relative. As you know, Trump is not my preference, but unless he's in jail its looking more and more likely that he will be the Republican nominee. Given that, I find Trump to be a better presidential option than the BOTUS.

May if Biden would assault women and spew racist rants, you'd like him better.

jesmu84


4everwarriors

Quote from: Jockey on December 13, 2023, 05:19:31 PM
May if Biden would assault women and spew racist rants, you'd like him better.



There is absolutely nothing, ever, to like about the Buffoon, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on December 13, 2023, 03:16:50 PM
He's a smart guy who has developed the mother of all god complexes and is suffering from an extensive ongoing midlife crisis because after being surrounded by people who have not told him no in decades, the funny people aren't laughing at his jokes on his website and he hates that more than most things.

I can buy he's a genius when it comes to some things (or in my unimportant opinion rather, sharp acumen to driving tech forward, regulations be damned).

Smart people are also just as susceptible to crackpotism as the rest of us though. Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins won a Nobel Prize for their discovery of the double-helix structure of DNA and later led the Human Genome Project. But also veered into asserting that Black people are intellectually inferior to whites and attributing the difference to genetic factors.

Even those who are at the top of their field brilliant can also be truly woefully incurious and outright provably wrong in many other things. This extends to healthcare professionals, engineers, CEOs, dentists, etc. There has never been a truly all encompassing genius I'd venture to bet.

You're not wrong. Being a genius doesn't mean good person, it doesn't guarantee good judgement. And I'm sure many people with IQs of 145+ waste their gifts. But on the other hand the work done by geniuses can have a much greater impact on the world than the average Joe.

TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Jockey on December 13, 2023, 05:19:31 PM
May if Biden would assault women and spew racist rants, you'd like him better.

  does sniffing hair, showering with your daughter and encouraging the little ones to stroke the hairs on his leg count?  oh, and he and robert "kkk" byrd were good buds btw
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 13, 2023, 06:00:38 PM
  does sniffing hair, showering with your daughter and encouraging the little ones to stroke the hairs on his leg count?  oh, and he and robert "kkk" byrd were good buds btw

8 out of 10
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 13, 2023, 03:05:14 PM
https://ts2.space/en/how-do-we-know-what-elon-musks-iq-is/#gsc.tab=0

Here's another one. Estimates abound, most commonly falling in the 155 range, well above the "genius" line.

But based on what, your "eye test", you're convinced his IQ is south of 145?


Want something that deserves a BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA? Your opinion, based on nothing but the fact that you don't like the guy.


lol. Want to buy my timeshare?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 02:09:41 PM


Its all relative. As you know, Trump is not my preference, but unless he's in jail its looking more and more likely that he will be the Republican nominee. Given that, I find Trump to be a better presidential option than the BOTUS.

Oh, I understand.

Even though you have said that antisemitism makes you sick and that you would never vote for any antisemite or anybody who supports antisemites ... you actually will happily do so.

Apparently, antisemitism doesn't make you THAT sick. Some antisemitism is A-OK if it's politically expedient for you.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on December 13, 2023, 03:16:50 PM
He's a smart guy who has developed the mother of all god complexes and is suffering from an extensive ongoing midlife crisis because after being surrounded by people who have not told him no in decades, the funny people aren't laughing at his jokes on his website and he hates that more than most things.

I can buy he's a genius when it comes to some things (or in my unimportant opinion rather, sharp acumen to driving tech forward, regulations be damned).

Smart people are also just as susceptible to crackpotism as the rest of us though. Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins won a Nobel Prize for their discovery of the double-helix structure of DNA and later led the Human Genome Project. But also veered into asserting that Black people are intellectually inferior to whites and attributing the difference to genetic factors.

Even those who are at the top of their field brilliant can also be truly woefully incurious and outright provably wrong in many other things. This extends to healthcare professionals, engineers, CEOs, dentists, etc. There has never been a truly all encompassing genius I'd venture to bet.

Well said.  I've known Cal Tech engineers who were absolutely brilliant stone cold geniuses, but absolute buffoons about a number of things.  One I wouldn't even trust to watch my dog due to questionable decision making.

I had another former coworker who graduated summa cum laude from Northwestern, top of their class at U of Chicago business school but was incredibly gullible and shared many similarities with everyone's annoying "news from Facebook" uncle.  Incredible analytical mind for finance and business, seemingly lacking any analytical capabilities in other non work aspects.

Pretending Musk isn't extremely intelligent and/or a bumbling charlatan is purely a concoction of people who hate him and his beliefs/stances and is just a hard over correction to "actually this guy is NOT smart" which makes people feel better.

But I totally agree he's absolutely ZOOTED off the high of his own farts, surrounding by an impossibly large army of sycophants (especially on his beloved social media), and a disturbing knack for refusing to accept simple/reasonable explanations and needing to outsmart into conspiracy nonsense


Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on December 13, 2023, 06:31:12 PM
Can we get back to war, please.

What war? This thread is for Bill Ackman tweets and accusations of antisemitism.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


4everwarriors

Quote from: MU82 on December 13, 2023, 06:07:08 PM
Oh, I understand.

Even though you have said that antisemitism makes you sick and that you would never vote for any antisemite or anybody who supports antisemites ... you actually will happily do so.

Apparently, antisemitism doesn't make you THAT sick. Some antisemitism is A-OK if it's politically expedient for you.



So you think the Buffoon loves Jews? He's trying to straddle both sides of the fence not to piss off any potential voter. He doesn't give 2 chits about Israel or Jews in general, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 06:46:12 PM


So you think the Buffoon loves Jews? He's trying to straddle both sides of the fence not to piss off any potential voter. He doesn't give 2 chits about Israel or Jews in general, hey?

He's just a pawn
Guster is for Lovers

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 06:46:12 PM


So you think the Buffoon loves Jews? He's trying to straddle both sides of the fence not to piss off any potential voter. He doesn't give 2 chits about Israel or Jews in general, hey?

Jews love him.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-biden-more-popular-in-israel-than-almost-anywhere-else-poll-shows/

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/16/1213406754/jewish-voters-biden-israel-hamas-war

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 07:27:49 PM
https://wallstreetjournal-ny.newsmemory.com/?publink=2878a3f2a_134ae51


Pretty sure the WSJ op-ed nailed it, hey?

Even the Wall Street Journal thinks the WSj opinion page is a disgrace.

More than 280 journalists, editors and other employees at The Wall Street Journal sent a letter to their publisher expressing concerns about misinformation in the paper's opinion section.
The letter says that "opinion's lack of fact-checking and transparency, and its apparent disregard for evidence, undermine our readers' trust and our ability to gain credibility with sources."


https://thehill.com/homenews/media/508373-over-280-wall-street-journal-employees-raise-credibility-concerns-about/

lawdog77

Quote from: Pakuni on December 13, 2023, 07:37:01 PM
Jews love him.
Stings, doesn't it?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-biden-more-popular-in-israel-than-almost-anywhere-else-poll-shows/

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/16/1213406754/jewish-voters-biden-israel-hamas-war
Curious if those numbers would go down after Biden called Israeli bombing "indiscriminate", which they have vehemently denied.

Also, from the first link:Pew survey finds 87% of Israelis happy with their most important ally, though Biden not yet winning over as many Israelis as Trump and Obama did

Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on December 13, 2023, 07:47:57 PM
Curious if those numbers would go down after Biden called Israeli bombing "indiscriminate", which they have vehemently denied.

Also, from the first link:Pew survey finds 87% of Israelis happy with their most important ally, though Biden not yet winning over as many Israelis as Trump and Obama did

Biden's rating in that poll was 68%. Trump and Obama peaked at 71%.
Seems a) pretty negligible and b) evidence that he's very popular in Israel.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

#3999
I'd be more concerned with Joe saying something like this when he's the leader of a jewish population almost exactly the size of Israel.

"Were there no Israel, there would not be a Jew in the world who is safe."

https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/joe-biden-without-israel-jews-wouldnt-be-safe-anywhere-yoewdict

Really curious as to what he meant there because to imply the US is less safe than Israel is certainly something, just from a purely geopolitical standpoint.

Could have just been rambling but to imply the safety of Americans domestically is wholly dependent on a foreign country across an ocean is alarming rhetoric.
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