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jesmu84

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on November 21, 2023, 04:42:34 PM
We are getting close to a temporary ceasefire for a hostage swap.

The problem is when Israel asks for a hostage, Hamas has to admit, "Sorry that one is dead."

@Yair_Rosenberg
We have reached the stage of the hostage deal news cycle where Hamas and Islamic Jihad start copping to killing hostages, whether by intent or neglect, to explain why some of them are not available to be released.

And Hamas wants hostages in return. But who does Hamas want?

@AviMayer
Remember this:

The Palestinians who will be released in the impending deal are convicted terrorists who are in prison because they tried to murder Israelis.

The Israelis who will be freed are innocent civilians being held hostage by terrorists.

There is no equivalence. None.


@ryangrim
This lie will get millions of views but no community note. The Palestinians being released by Israel havent been charged or convicted of anything in a real court. What do you call women and children who are captured by foreign gunmen and held without trial? That's who Israel is exchanging.

Heisenberg

#3326
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 21, 2023, 10:02:59 PM
@ryangrim
This lie will get millions of views but no community note. The Palestinians being released by Israel havent been charged or convicted of anything in a real court. What do you call women and children who are captured by foreign gunmen and held without trial? That's who Israel is exchanging.


I hope you're right, but as of right now, none of the names have been released of who Israel is exchanging for hostages.

MU82

"To see neo-Nazis marching in our streets and neighborhoods and in the shadow of our State Capitol building spreading their disturbing, hateful messages is truly revolting. Let us be clear: Neo-Nazis, antisemitism, and white supremacy have no home in Wisconsin. We will not accept or normalize this rhetoric and hate. It's repulsive and disgusting, and I join Wisconsinites in condemning and denouncing their presence in our state in the strongest terms possible."

- Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Heisenberg

#3328
This is what we know as I write this ...

Three Hours Ago

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/11/22/bulletin-warns-of-increasing-terrorist-threat-to-new-york-cbs-news-n2631520
Authorities in the Empire State are on high alert ahead of Thanksgiving as, according to Catherine Herridge, CBS News obtained an intelligence bulletin warning of "an increasing terrorist threat to New York State" amid Iran-backed terrorists' war against Israel launched with an October 7 Hamas slaughter of more than 1,200 individuals in the Jewish state.

@CBS_Herridge
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1727131445528064453
@CBSNews obtained intel alert which points to "an increasing terrorist threat to New York State" tied to Israel-Hamas war" + the "increase in civilian casualties raises the likelihood that violent extremist threat actors will seek to conduct attacks..."

One Hour Ago

Rainbow Bridge between US, Canada closed following vehicle explosion: FBI
The Rainbow Bridge was shut down to all traffic following the blast.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/rainbow-bridge-us-canada-closed-explosion-sources/story?id=105102476

The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities.

There are believed to be fatalities from the incident, multiple officials confirmed to ABC News.

Investigators have found some sort of suitcase or briefcase on-scene, sources told ABC News. They are treating it as a possible explosive device as a precaution and the bomb squad is handling the package.

30 Minutes ago

NY vehicle explosion at Rainbow Bridge border crossing is attempted terror attack: sources
Rainbow Bridge, which connects Niagara Falls, New York to Niagara Falls, Canada, is currently shut down as the investigation unfolds
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ny-vehicle-explosion-reported-rainbow-bridge-niagara-falls-injured

The FBI is investigating a vehicle explosion Wednesday at the Rainbow Bridge border crossing between the U.S. and Canada in what sources tell Fox News was an attempted terrorist attack.

Explosives were in the vehicle at the time and two people who were in the car are dead, the sources told Fox News. A border officer was injured.

The vehicle was driving from the U.S. to Canada and were attempting to drive toward the border officer building, the sources said.

All bridges are closed in the area, and all government buildings are evacuated, according to the sources.

Headline 10 Minutes ago

*AUTHORITIES SEARCHING FOR SECOND VEHICLE IN BRIDGE ATTACK: FOX


jesmu84


tower912

Once again, I find myself agreeing with the pope.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

forgetful

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 21, 2023, 10:02:59 PM
@ryangrim
This lie will get millions of views but no community note. The Palestinians being released by Israel havent been charged or convicted of anything in a real court. What do you call women and children who are captured by foreign gunmen and held without trial? That's who Israel is exchanging.

The fact that so many people are unaware that Israel has 100's of women and children illegally detained (for lengthy amounts of time) is surprising.


jesmu84

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/21/biden-hostage-israel-hamas-war-00128351

"...there was some concern in the administration about an unintended consequence of the pause: that it would allow journalists broader access to Gaza and the opportunity to further illuminate the devastation there and turn public opinion on Israel."

:o

jesmu84

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 22, 2023, 02:08:51 PM
https://x.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1727412513107779929?s=20

https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1727436617743561026?t=aaOYsZXPF8F3IbEyKzHoQQ&s=19

"New footage from the Rainbow Bridge in Niagara Falls, NY shows a vehicle going airborne before catching fire as officials are now retracting earlier statements suggesting a terrorist attack."

I'm sure more info will come out. But, for now, looks like anyone who jumped on Hamas-related terror attack will have to wait a bit longer to rile folks up

reinko

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on November 22, 2023, 01:30:12 PM
This is what we know as I write this ...

Three Hours Ago

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/11/22/bulletin-warns-of-increasing-terrorist-threat-to-new-york-cbs-news-n2631520
Authorities in the Empire State are on high alert ahead of Thanksgiving as, according to Catherine Herridge, CBS News obtained an intelligence bulletin warning of "an increasing terrorist threat to New York State" amid Iran-backed terrorists' war against Israel launched with an October 7 Hamas slaughter of more than 1,200 individuals in the Jewish state.

@CBS_Herridge
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1727131445528064453
@CBSNews obtained intel alert which points to "an increasing terrorist threat to New York State" tied to Israel-Hamas war" + the "increase in civilian casualties raises the likelihood that violent extremist threat actors will seek to conduct attacks..."

One Hour Ago

Rainbow Bridge between US, Canada closed following vehicle explosion: FBI
The Rainbow Bridge was shut down to all traffic following the blast.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/rainbow-bridge-us-canada-closed-explosion-sources/story?id=105102476

The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities.

There are believed to be fatalities from the incident, multiple officials confirmed to ABC News.

Investigators have found some sort of suitcase or briefcase on-scene, sources told ABC News. They are treating it as a possible explosive device as a precaution and the bomb squad is handling the package.

30 Minutes ago

NY vehicle explosion at Rainbow Bridge border crossing is attempted terror attack: sources
Rainbow Bridge, which connects Niagara Falls, New York to Niagara Falls, Canada, is currently shut down as the investigation unfolds
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ny-vehicle-explosion-reported-rainbow-bridge-niagara-falls-injured

The FBI is investigating a vehicle explosion Wednesday at the Rainbow Bridge border crossing between the U.S. and Canada in what sources tell Fox News was an attempted terrorist attack.

Explosives were in the vehicle at the time and two people who were in the car are dead, the sources told Fox News. A border officer was injured.

The vehicle was driving from the U.S. to Canada and were attempting to drive toward the border officer building, the sources said.

All bridges are closed in the area, and all government buildings are evacuated, according to the sources.

Headline 10 Minutes ago

*AUTHORITIES SEARCHING FOR SECOND VEHICLE IN BRIDGE ATTACK: FOX

So close.  Rich drunk guy in a $200,000 car who wanted to see KISS, but ended up at a casino, then speeds through a checkpoint and crashes his car.

MU82

#3335
WSJ also saying, "No indication incident related to terrorism, according to preliminary investigation."

Alas ... it was almost Douchey's wet dream.

Still sad that people have died, even if Islamic terrorists weren't responsible.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

forgetful

#3336
Quote from: MU82 on November 22, 2023, 07:59:25 PM
WSJ also saying, "No indication incident related to terrorism, according to preliminary investigation."

Alas ... it was almost Douchey's wet dream.

Still sad that people have died, even if Islamic terrorists weren't responsible.

What bothers me most about all of this, is that Foxnews was broadcasting that it was a terrorist attack, explosives were found, and that another car might be involved.

All false. They were the only ones writing this, all other sources said otherwise, and they put the articles right up next to ones claiming that Hamas was going to attack NY, and that the porous border was letting terrorists in.

That is absurd journalistic maleficence.

forgetful

#3337
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 20, 2023, 09:54:02 AM
I don't trust the PA or UNRWA at all Lawdog.  We gave UNRWA 300 mill to brainwash kids in schools.  Inexcusable.

What about groups having kids sing songs about annihilating/eliminating everyone?

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/11/20/israeli-children-singing-annihilate-gaza/


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/clip-of-israeli-kids-singing-of-wiping-out-nations-enemies-elicits-outrage/

Kahanism is making a major comeback, with people like Ben-Gvir in places of power (once threatened to kill Yitzhak Rabin, weeks before his political allies actually assassinated him). Notably, Ben-Gvir was banned from the Israeli military for being associated with a terrorist organization, but is now the Minister of National Security.

reinko

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on November 22, 2023, 01:30:12 PM
This is what we know as I write this ...

Three Hours Ago

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/11/22/bulletin-warns-of-increasing-terrorist-threat-to-new-york-cbs-news-n2631520
Authorities in the Empire State are on high alert ahead of Thanksgiving as, according to Catherine Herridge, CBS News obtained an intelligence bulletin warning of "an increasing terrorist threat to New York State" amid Iran-backed terrorists' war against Israel launched with an October 7 Hamas slaughter of more than 1,200 individuals in the Jewish state.

@CBS_Herridge
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1727131445528064453
@CBSNews obtained intel alert which points to "an increasing terrorist threat to New York State" tied to Israel-Hamas war" + the "increase in civilian casualties raises the likelihood that violent extremist threat actors will seek to conduct attacks..."

One Hour Ago

Rainbow Bridge between US, Canada closed following vehicle explosion: FBI
The Rainbow Bridge was shut down to all traffic following the blast.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/rainbow-bridge-us-canada-closed-explosion-sources/story?id=105102476

The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities.

There are believed to be fatalities from the incident, multiple officials confirmed to ABC News.

Investigators have found some sort of suitcase or briefcase on-scene, sources told ABC News. They are treating it as a possible explosive device as a precaution and the bomb squad is handling the package.

30 Minutes ago

NY vehicle explosion at Rainbow Bridge border crossing is attempted terror attack: sources
Rainbow Bridge, which connects Niagara Falls, New York to Niagara Falls, Canada, is currently shut down as the investigation unfolds
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ny-vehicle-explosion-reported-rainbow-bridge-niagara-falls-injured

The FBI is investigating a vehicle explosion Wednesday at the Rainbow Bridge border crossing between the U.S. and Canada in what sources tell Fox News was an attempted terrorist attack.

Explosives were in the vehicle at the time and two people who were in the car are dead, the sources told Fox News. A border officer was injured.

The vehicle was driving from the U.S. to Canada and were attempting to drive toward the border officer building, the sources said.

All bridges are closed in the area, and all government buildings are evacuated, according to the sources.

Headline 10 Minutes ago

*AUTHORITIES SEARCHING FOR SECOND VEHICLE IN BRIDGE ATTACK: FOX




https://www.meidastouch.com/news/screen-shots-of-republicans-who-lied-about-a-terrorist-attack

The Sultan

I'm sure Heisey will be along any minute now to admit he was wrong.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 23, 2023, 06:31:29 AM
I'm sure Heisey will be along any minute now to admit he was wrong.
Right after 4elder pops up to praise Biden for driving the hostage deal
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

4everwarriors

Sure, Hamas gets rewarded for terrorism and innocent Israelis are murdered, hey?

#awfuldeal
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MU82

Ty Cobb, the attorney who successfully defended the previous president during the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, said this about his former client:

"He has never cared about America, its citizens, its future or anything but himself. In fact, as history well shows from his divisive lies, as well as from his unrestrained contempt for the rule of law and his related crimes, his conduct and mere existence have hastened the demise of democracy and of the nation. Our adversaries and our allies both recognize that even his potential reelection diminishes America on the world stage and ensures continued acceleration of the domestic decline we are currently enduring. If that reelection actually happens, the consequences will extinguish what, if anything, remains of the American Dream."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Not sure what this has to do with the topic...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 23, 2023, 09:30:20 AM
Not sure what this has to do with the topic...

"Our adversaries and our allies both recognize that even his potential reelection diminishes America on the world stage"
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on November 23, 2023, 09:42:37 AM
"Our adversaries and our allies both recognize that even his potential reelection diminishes America on the world stage"

Which has nothing to do with the quote you provided. You just want to find a place to insert politics.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 23, 2023, 10:14:23 AM
Which has nothing to do with the quote you provided. You just want to find a place to insert politics TDS. 

forgetful

Al Shifa hospital director and medical staff arrested.

The reasoning, they had to know something about Hamas, because empty tunnels, built by Israel 40 years ago, were found under the hospital.

Things like this risk the ceasefire and hostage release.

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 23, 2023, 10:14:23 AM
Which has nothing to do with the quote you provided. You just want to find a place to insert politics.

You're new here, Officer.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUBurrow


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