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Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

#2700
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 08, 2023, 07:11:08 AM
"Just because they aren't currently in a phase of self immolation"? This would make me laugh if it wasn't so sad and so ignorant. Yes, extremism is bad. But some is (obviously) much more dangerous than others. If you have a cold or stage 4 pancreatic cancer you are "sick". Calling them the same thing is dumb.

Colds kill more people annually than stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Terrible analogy.

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

forgetful

Quote from: Pakuni on November 08, 2023, 10:55:24 AM
Oh, you just want to forcibly annex a sovereign country and subjugate/murder its people in violation of just about every international law that exists.
Got it.
I just can't understand why people say you're living in a fantasy world.

Sad thing is, if someone else did the above to anyone he liked, he would recommend introducing them to darkness.

It's strange when people don't realize that their views/directives are the exact same thing as they say they despise and attack in others.

MU82

When we're done nuking 95% of the Middle East - leaving Israel totally unscathed, of course - can we please nuke Storrs? I'm SO sick of Dan Hurley.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Heisenberg

#2703
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 08, 2023, 07:08:25 AM
No they don't.  That would be illegal.  You are making things up again.

Brandeis acknowledged they cannot stop hate speech, so you're correct. Then they did what I wanted anyway: found a way of not banning hate speech but silencing the hate talk anyway.

Harvard could stop paying for the 33 student organizations that signed the letter blaming Israel on October 8, less than 24 hours after the attack and before Israel even started to respond.

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Brandeis University bans Students for Justice in Palestine
https://www.thecollegefix.com/brandeis-university-bans-students-for-justice-in-palestine/

Students for Justice in Palestine can no longer operate at Brandeis University due to the group's support for Hamas, which currently governs the Gaza Strip.

The president of the Waltham, Massachusetts university published an essay Monday in The Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/11/06/opinion/brandeis-university-antisemitism-protests-israel-hamas/) that said clubs which call for the "annihilation" of Israel would lose club privileges. The local Jewish community started the university.

"Most urgently, in this twilight zone moment when students and faculty seem to be enjoying their freedom to express grotesque language about Jews, Jewish life, and the Jewish state, Brandeis will uphold free speech rightly understood," President Ronald Liebowitz wrote. "Universities cannot stop hate speech, but they can stop paying for it."

"Brandeis will ensure that groups that receive privileges through their affiliations with the university, including using its name, will lose their affiliations and privileges when they spew hate," he wrote.

A campus spokesperson provided further comment to Fox News. "National SJP has called on its chapters to engage in conduct that supports Hamas in its call for the elimination of the only Jewish state in the world and its people," Julie Jette told Fox News. "Such expression is not protected by Brandeis' principles of free speech."

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The former campus group confirmed the news in a post on Instagram. "With heavy hearts, we would like to announce that our chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine has been unjustly de-charted," the group wrote on Instagram yesterday. "This comes as a part of Brandeis University, an institution that values social justice, trying to silence us from speaking our truth."

"We thank everyone who stood by us during this beautiful journey, and we encourage you to reach out to us if you need any kind of support," the group wrote. It concluded its social media post by calling for the destruction of Israel, writing, "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free."

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: MU82 on November 08, 2023, 02:30:55 PM
When we're done nuking 95% of the Middle East - leaving Israel totally unscathed, of course - can we please nuke Storrs? I'm SO sick of Dan Hurley.
You're getting the steps out of order again. Taking out Coach Hurley is part of Step 1 - Assassinate Leadership, preferably carried out by Liam Neeson.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on November 08, 2023, 12:56:56 PM
Colds kill more people annually than stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Terrible analogy.

Then please accept this as an olive branch - may your next disease be stage 4 pancreatic cancer, I'll risk the much more lethal common cold.

4everwarriors

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on November 08, 2023, 03:57:31 PM
Brandeis acknowledged they cannot stop hate speech, so you're correct. Then they did what I wanted anyway: found a way of not banning hate speech but silencing the hate talk anyway.

Harvard could stop paying for the 33 student organizations that signed the letter blaming Israel on October 8, less than 24 hours after the attack and before Israel even started to respond.

----

Brandeis University bans Students for Justice in Palestine
https://www.thecollegefix.com/brandeis-university-bans-students-for-justice-in-palestine/

Students for Justice in Palestine can no longer operate at Brandeis University due to the group's support for Hamas, which currently governs the Gaza Strip.

The president of the Waltham, Massachusetts university published an essay Monday in The Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/11/06/opinion/brandeis-university-antisemitism-protests-israel-hamas/) that said clubs which call for the "annihilation" of Israel would lose club privileges. The local Jewish community started the university.

"Most urgently, in this twilight zone moment when students and faculty seem to be enjoying their freedom to express grotesque language about Jews, Jewish life, and the Jewish state, Brandeis will uphold free speech rightly understood," President Ronald Liebowitz wrote. "Universities cannot stop hate speech, but they can stop paying for it."

"Brandeis will ensure that groups that receive privileges through their affiliations with the university, including using its name, will lose their affiliations and privileges when they spew hate," he wrote.

A campus spokesperson provided further comment to Fox News. "National SJP has called on its chapters to engage in conduct that supports Hamas in its call for the elimination of the only Jewish state in the world and its people," Julie Jette told Fox News. "Such expression is not protected by Brandeis' principles of free speech."

------

The former campus group confirmed the news in a post on Instagram. "With heavy hearts, we would like to announce that our chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine has been unjustly de-charted," the group wrote on Instagram yesterday. "This comes as a part of Brandeis University, an institution that values social justice, trying to silence us from speaking our truth."

"We thank everyone who stood by us during this beautiful journey, and we encourage you to reach out to us if you need any kind of support," the group wrote. It concluded its social media post by calling for the destruction of Israel, writing, "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free."



Glad to see the pushback. Can't let atrocious behavior of the antisemites go unchecked, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

lawdog77

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on November 08, 2023, 12:56:56 PM
Colds kill more people annually than stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Terrible analogy.
1. Source?
2. What's the mortality rate?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 08, 2023, 04:33:28 PM


Glad to see the pushback. Can't let atrocious behavior of the antisemites go unchecked, hey?

That's why I push back against Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 08, 2023, 04:33:28 PM


Glad to see the pushback. Can't let atrocious behavior of the antisemites go unchecked, hey?

I know this issue is important to you, and I respect that because it's important to me, too.

You've pushed back on Tlaib - and so have I. You've also pushed back here, going with the Joseph McCarthy routine by (falsely) labeling anyone who doesn't pass your purity test an anti-Semite.

But ...

When will you start pushing back on MTG, Tucker and the 91-felony Criminal Defendant? Or doesn't their anti-Semitism count because they're on your team?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 08, 2023, 04:09:15 PM
Then please accept this as an olive branch - may your next disease be stage 4 pancreatic cancer, I'll risk the much more lethal common cold.

Two things can be very bad at once
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

jesmu84

Palenstinians =\= islamic jihadists

Heisenberg


Lennys Tap

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on November 08, 2023, 06:52:29 PM
Two things can be very bad at once

Lots of attempts at clever that miss the mark. And zero insight. Take a break and give us one.

forgetful

Curious for the ends justify the means group.

If England leveled Dublin to root out the IRA after one of their terrorist attacks, would it have been justified? Would it matter how many children and civilians died as a result of eliminating the IRA?


MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on November 08, 2023, 07:46:44 PM
Curious for the ends justify the means group.

If England leveled Dublin to root out the IRA after one of their terrorist attacks, would it have been justified? Would it matter how many children and civilians died as a result of eliminating the IRA?

The IRA isn't in Dublin and the situation isn't remotely comparable.  You've also said nothing about tbe Israeli children who were slaightered or the  hostages.  Hamas is responsible for this war. 

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 08, 2023, 08:02:06 PM
The IRA isn't in Dublin and the situation isn't remotely comparable.  You've also said nothing about tbe Israeli children who were slaightered or the  hostages.  Hamas is responsible for this war.

The IRA headquarters was in Dublin.

You didn't answer the question.

And I've denounced Hamas the entire thread. Now try to answer the question.

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on November 08, 2023, 08:05:05 PM
The IRA headquarters was in Dublin.

You didn't answer the question.

And I've denounced Hamas the entire thread. Now try to answer the question.

I don't think they've been headquartered there for a very long time.  It's not a comparable question at all.  Hamas uses Palestinians as their shields.  Israel is doing everything they can to avoid civilian deaths.

forgetful

#2718
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 08, 2023, 08:08:43 PM
I don't think they've been headquartered there for a very long time.  It's not a comparable question at all.  Hamas uses Palestinians as their shields.  Israel is doing everything they can to avoid civilian deaths.

This isn't a if it happened today question. It is if England did that in response to any of their old terrorist attacks at the time. It is a hypothetical.

IRA's headquarters and armaments were also intermingled with civilian populations. Were they using them as human shields?

You are ok with any outcomes for rooting out terrorists. So would England have been justified to introduce the IRA to darkness, and any civilians that died are just part of ends that justify the means.

And to be clear, again, as you like to switch narratives. Hamas is evil. Their terrorist attack is appalling, and Israel has a right to defend itself.

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on November 08, 2023, 08:18:05 PM
This isn't a if it happened today question. It is if England did that in response to any of their old terrorist attacks at the time. It is a hypothetical.

IRA's headquarters and armaments were also intermingled with civilian populations. Were they using them as human shields?

You are ok with any outcomes for rooting out terrorists. So would England have been justified to introduce the IRA to darkness, and any civilians that died are just part of ends that justify the means.

And to be clear, again, as you like to switch narratives. Hamas is evil. Their terrorist attack is appalling, and Israel has a right to defend itself.

I mean if the IRA committed a terrorist act the magnitude of Oct 7 and with other groups could threaten the existence of England?

jesmu84

Supporting innocent Palestinians or being upset about the death of innocent Palestinians is not supporting Jewish genocide or supporting the end of the state of Israel.

MuggsyB

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 08, 2023, 08:35:43 PM
Supporting innocent Palestinians or being upset about the death of innocent Palestinians is not supporting Jewish genocide or supporting the end of the state of Israel.

It's not Jewish genocide. 

Pakuni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on November 08, 2023, 07:07:18 PM
Germans =\= Nazis

1944 warfare =/= 2023 warfare
Israel vs Hamas =/= World War II

We can do this all night.




TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 08, 2023, 08:35:43 PM
Supporting innocent Palestinians or being upset about the death of innocent Palestinians is not supporting Jewish genocide or supporting the end of the state of Israel.
Dentists and hyperexcitable diminutive people don't understand nuance. At all.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on November 08, 2023, 12:56:56 PM
Colds kill more people annually than stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Terrible analogy.

Approximately 19,000 have died in the US from colds and cold related causes since 1979. So, about 432 people each year.

Estimates of pancreatic cancer deaths in the US in 2023 alone? More than 50,000.

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