Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Hards Alumni]

When did Arabs stop being semites?

They didn't, but the world decided antisemitic meant anti-jewish a long long time ago, so that's the definition we all go with.

[Skatastrophy]

When did Arabs stop being semites?

I don't think the people discriminating against Arabs in the US are asking them their religion first. It's islamaphobia impacting semites, muslims, sikhs, christians, etc as long as they look the part. Racists aren't the smartest.

[Jockey]

See Bill Maher. As a traditional liberal that has not changed his views at all, his audience is switching from progressives to conservatives.

Ditto Matt Taibbi and Glen Greenwall.

You're just wrong. Maher was a traditional Libertarian and claimed to be one. Taibbi and Greenwald are just following the dollar bills like a trailer part ho'.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Uhuh.....there's Islamophobia too.  And racism, and misogyny.  Nice fking analysis and contextualizing.  If the KKK and other racists cumbags tomorrow went into a black neighborhood and massacred 1500 innocent civilians, in the fashion that the Jews (and some Muslims) in Israel were murdered, would this be your fking response?  Seriously,?  And btw there are 16 million Jews on the entire freaking planet.  There are like 1.5 BILLION Muslims.  Look at what's going on here and across the world to our Jewish citizens.  This is absolutely disgusting and making any moral equivalency is quite frankly ludicrous.

Good to know that scoop doesnt censor "cumbags". What I got from this is some lives are more equal than others.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

God dang you're almost as funny as reeeeko

I didn't read a denial

[Heisenberg]

You're just wrong. Maher was a traditional Libertarian and claimed to be one. Taibbi and Greenwald are just following the dollar bills like a trailer part ho'.

Another poster thinks their opinion is the only "correct" one. So, their opinion is transformed into an indisputable fact. Everyone who disagrees with their "fact" is "just wrong."

The world is two kinds of people. Those that agree with my "opinions," and those that are wrong on the "facts."

[CreightonWarrior]

Uhuh.....there's Islamophobia too.  And racism, and misogyny.  Nice fking analysis and contextualizing.  If the KKK and other racists cumbags tomorrow went into a black neighborhood and massacred 1500 innocent civilians, in the fashion that the Jews (and some Muslims) in Israel were murdered, would this be your fking response?  Seriously,?  And btw there are 16 million Jews on the entire freaking planet.  There are like 1.5 BILLION Muslims.  Look at what's going on here and across the world to our Jewish citizens.  This is absolutely disgusting and making any moral equivalency is quite frankly ludicrous.

Per your policy does this mean all KKK and other racists must not be destroyed and shown darkness?

[Mutaman]

Another poster thinks their opinion is the only "correct" one. So, their opinion is transformed into an indisputable fact. Everyone who disagrees with their "fact" is "just wrong."

The world is two kinds of people. Those that agree with my "opinions," and those that are wrong on the "facts."

Jockey's opinion is correct here. Maher has always been a  Libertarian. Taibbi and Greenwald have always been greedy assholes.

[rocket surgeon]

I didn't read a denial

Denial of what?  You're the one who claims "one group significantly scares dentists over the other"? 

We didn't claim anything.  You tell us dip shot, which group scares us

[Hards Alumni]

Good to know that scoop doesnt censor "cumbags". What I got from this is some lives are more equal than others.

That one is going in my back pocket for sure.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

That one is going in my back pocket for sure.

So that's what you call it!

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Denial of what?  You're the one who claims "one group significantly scares dentists over the other"? 

We didn't claim anything.  You tell us dip shot, which group scares us

Change

[Lennys Tap]

Jockey's opinion is correct here. Maher has always been a  Libertarian. Taibbi and Greenwald have always been greedy pretty boys.

Wrong. Maher identified as Libertarian a long time ago because of both party's stances on the war on drugs. But he later moved to a more standard liberal bent. He contributed 1 million dollars to Barack Obama's super pac. Nobody ever called BO a libertarian.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Now, you are going to say that both are equally as bad. I agree. So, what should be done about this wave of violence?

Crack down on violent speech? Arrest everyone that says "River to the Sea" and other such violent actions (and yes, if similar things are said against Muslims, arrest them too?)

Is that too hard? Then, shut down all demonstrations? Violation of the First Amendment?

Would you support arresting people that say "River to the Sea"?

[Mutaman]

Wrong. Maher identified as Libertarian a long time ago because of both party's stances on the war on drugs. But he later moved to a more standard liberal bent. He contributed 1 million dollars to Barack Obama's super pac. Nobody ever called BO a libertarian.

Maher's politics have always been typical "your not the boss of me "
libertarian politics. His contribution to Obama was based on his belief in the man, not his belief in the man's politics. Same reason he backed Bernie. Has anyone ever called Sanders a liberal?

[Heisenberg]

Maher's politics have always been typical "your not the boss of me "
libertarian politics. His contribution to Obama was based on his belief in the man, not his belief in the man's politics. Same reason he backed Bernie. Has anyone ever called Sanders a liberal?

Recall my larger point that there's been a phase shift in politics

The progressive left is now pro war, anti free speech (speech is violence!), anti-Isreal, and does not listen to Maher.

20 years ago these were called neocons, Cap Weinberger and Donald Rumsfeld were their leaders.

Conversely, the neocons of 20 years ago, are now antiwar (at least Ukraine), pro first amendment, pro Israel, and are becoming Maher's biggest fans.

20 years ago, people in this group voted for Ralph Nader.

——

Whatever Maher is or isn't, he hasn't changed in 20 years. He's been a constant. The same with Taibbi and Greenwall. Now they're getting a lot of fans from the right.

This is happening because of the phase shift in politics.

[Heisenberg]

Would you support arresting people that say "River to the Sea"?

If you define it as a call for violence, which I do, yes.

It's the same as chanting, "murdered the Jews," or "lynch the ..."

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A Palestinian kill the Jewish man yesterday in LA.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/9563651/paul-kessler-dead-pro-palestine-rally/

The medical examiner's office determined that his death was a homicide from blunt force trauma.

"The Ventura County Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident and has not ruled out the possibility of a hate crime," the sheriff's office wrote.

As deputies look into what led up to the clash that wounded Kessler, some reports claim that he was hit in the head with a megaphone before he fell.

[Hards Alumni]

Recall my larger point that there's been a phase shift in politics

The progressive left is now pro war, anti free speech (speech is violence!), anti-Isreal, and does not listen to Maher.

20 years ago these were called neocons, Cap Weinberger and Donald Rumsfeld were their leaders.

Conversely, the neocons of 20 years ago, are now antiwar (at least Ukraine), pro first amendment, pro Israel, and are becoming Maher's biggest fans.

20 years ago, people in this group voted for Ralph Nader.

——

Whatever Maher is or isn't, he hasn't changed in 20 years. He's been a constant. The same with Taibbi and Greenwall. Now they're getting a lot of fans from the right.

This is happening because of the phase shift in politics.

As I mentioned earlier, this is fantasy.  All three of the people you mentioned also have enormous egos and can't acknowledge their errors.

[Hards Alumni]

If you define it as a call for violence, which I do, yes.

It's the same as chanting, "murdered the Jews," or "lynch the ..."

—-

A Palestinian kill the Jewish man yesterday in LA.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/9563651/paul-kessler-dead-pro-palestine-rally/

The medical examiner's office determined that his death was a homicide from blunt force trauma.

"The Ventura County Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident and has not ruled out the possibility of a hate crime," the sheriff's office wrote.

As deputies look into what led up to the clash that wounded Kessler, some reports claim that he was hit in the head with a megaphone before he fell.

Your other two examples have violent words in them.  Murder and lynch.

Again, not a serious person.

[Lennys Tap]

Maher's politics have always been typical "your not the boss of me "
libertarian politics. His contribution to Obama was based on his belief in the man, not his belief in the man's politics. Same reason he backed Bernie. Has anyone ever called Sanders a liberal?

Yes. He's on the fringe but caucuses with the Democrats and votes with them the vast majority of the time.

Find me one other libertarian who gave a million dollars to Obama or supported a democratic socialist (Sanders) for president and I'll agree. Iconoclast? Sure. Libertarian? Not for a very long time (if ever).

[Hards Alumni]

Yes. He's on the fringe but caucuses with the Democrats and votes with them the vast majority of the time.

Find me one other libertarian who gave a million dollars to Obama or supported a democratic socialist (Sanders) for president and I'll agree. Iconoclast? Sure. Libertarian? Not for a very long time (if ever).

I don't think it is easy to classify Maher as anything except a contrarian dickhead... or smug know it all.  He has some good ideas, and some terrible ones.  He's just the average American who has strong beliefs about specific topics... but he has a platform.  I'm not sure the last time he has been funny though.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If you define it as a call for violence, which I do, yes.

It's the same as chanting, "murdered the Jews," or "lynch the ..."

We've covered this before in this thread but "a call to violence" isn't one of the free speech exceptions. What you may be confusing it with is incitement of immediate lawless action.

None of your examples meet the standard for incitement. You are calling for the government to arrest people for free speech.

[tower912]

Just like Dennis Miller, Maher WAS funny.     Less so now.   

[Pakuni]

Yes. He's on the fringe but caucuses with the Democrats and votes with them the vast majority of the time.

Find me one other libertarian who gave a million dollars to Obama or supported a democratic socialist (Sanders) for president and I'll agree. Iconoclast? Sure. Libertarian? Not for a very long time (if ever).

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/politics/penn-jillette-bernie-sanders-libertarian/index.html

[lawdog77]

Odd story

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/woman-arrested-for-driving-into-building-after-believing-it-represented-israel-indianapolis-n-keystone-avenue/531-322915d2-894e-4134-add0-00b3b3aa3d74