Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Jockey]

The most conservative estimates I have seen for total casualties in the Iraq War have been around 200,000. I've seen them as high as 500,000 vast majority of those being civilians. You are advocating for an invasion of Iran, a country with over 3x the amount of people that Iraq had before the war and a much more powerful military. Youre living in a Tom Clancy novel if you think that an invasion of Iran could be done without hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties

He's made it clear that civilian casualties aren't a concern.

[MU82]

What would "spectacular fashion" entail?

That's one of the 5 points. If he told you, he'd have to add a 6th point, and that would lead to your termination.

[MuggsyB]

Israel will be criticized no matter what they do.   I don't recall when we have been at war when our cabinet and media was droning about war etiquette or restraint on an hourly basis.. Did that happen in Fallujah?  The more I read many your comments, the more I am inclined to amend my 5-point plan (which involves hard power) to  a 7 point plan which would restore peace and save lives unlike anything we have ever seen before. It would be messy early but then things would shake out very comfortably for the Western World and in particular the United States. 

[lawdog77]

That's one of the 5 points. If he told you, he'd have to add a 6th point, and that would lead to your termination.

It's all a marketing campaign by Muggsy.

[MuggsyB]

It's all a marketing campaign by Muggsy.

Lawdog,

I have capped myself at the Ultimate Thanks For Playing 10 Point Solution but some of these people are testing my calm and calculated blueprint.

[MuggsyB]

He's made it clear that civilian casualties aren't a concern.

Not true at all. 

[Uncle Rico]

I discovered Muggsy's plan

https://youtu.be/tO5sxLapAts?si=4FszWN23by9V_JhX

[lawdog77]

Lawdog,

I have capped myself at the Ultimate Thanks For Playing 10 Point Solution but some of these people are testing my calm and calculated blueprint.

I don't even know what that means. Do we need to send someone for a wellness check?

[MU82]

Israel will be criticized no matter what they do.

Including by Bibi himself.

From the NYT 3 hours ago:

In what many Israelis viewed as an extraordinary statement in the midst of war, Netanyahu's account on X, formerly Twitter, posted early Sunday that "at no stage was Prime Minister Netanyahu warned of war intentions on the part of Hamas. On the contrary, the assessment of the entire security echelon, including the head of military intelligence and the head of Shin Bet, was that Hamas was deterred and was interested in an arrangement." The post was later deleted.

Then an update an hour later:

Following a furious backlash, Netanyahu apologized for his earlier post blaming the security establishment for the failure to anticipate the Oct. 7 Hamas attack. In a new post on X that showed an unusual level of contrition, the Israeli prime minister wrote: "I was wrong." He expressed support for the heads of the military and the security agencies, and for commanders and soldiers in the field, adding: "Together we will win."

Apparently Bibi didn't get the "never admit a mistake" and "never ever ever ever apologize" memos.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Dodds was right

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Israel will be criticized no matter what they do.   I don't recall when we have been at war when our cabinet and media was droning about war etiquette or restraint on an hourly basis.. Did that happen in Fallujah?  The more I read many your comments, the more I am inclined to amend my 5-point plan (which involves hard power) to  a 7 point plan which would restore peace and save lives unlike anything we have ever seen before. It would be messy early but then things would shake out very comfortably for the Western World and in particular the United States.

I remember plenty of criticism and prortests throughout the course of the War in Iraq

[jesmu84]

I remember plenty of criticism and prortests throughout the course of the War in Iraq

Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea...

[MuggsyB]

A country had 1500 civilians slaightered to death, many in their homes.  30+ Americans were a part of the horror.  This wasn't part of a "war", it was a despicable terrorist attack. Every single country if they were in the same position would respond.  And yet within a day or sooner, the goalposts totally shifted and it became Israel is an oppressor, there are two sides to this, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.  Uh.....wrong.   

What we are leaning is antisemitism and Jew hatred is ubiquitous, especially on college campuses.  Ask yourself if 1500 fill in the blank people were murdered in this fashion, whether or not we would have worldwide protests essentially supporting or justifying the murderers?  It would not happen.

[MU82]

Vietnam

Wait, there were Vietnam War protests? Who knew?

What we are leaning is antisemitism and Jew hatred is ubiquitous, especially on college campuses.

What we've also learned is that powerful people who have made many anti-Semitic comments, done anti-Semitic things, supported anti-Semites or accepted support from anti-Semites (or all of the above) now claim to support Israel.

For those willing to open their minds, it's a reminder that Israel and Judaism are not the same thing -- something I've learned and been reminded of over and over and over again during my 6 decades as an American Jew.

But you go ahead and keep labeling as Jew-haters everybody who doesn't line up 100% with your viewpoint. That's really helpful to the conversation.

[Hards Alumni]

A country had 1500 civilians slaightered to death, many in their homes.  30+ Americans were a part of the horror.  This wasn't part of a "war", it was a despicable terrorist attack. Every single country if they were in the same position would respond.  And yet within a day or sooner, the goalposts totally shifted and it became Israel is an oppressor, there are two sides to this, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.  Uh.....wrong.   

What we are leaning is antisemitism and Jew hatred is ubiquitous, especially on college campuses.  Ask yourself if 1500 fill in the blank people were murdered in this fashion, whether or not we would have worldwide protests essentially supporting or justifying the murderers?  It would not happen.

What we are actually learning is that dullards think the history of this conflict started on 10/7.

[Pakuni]

"Hard Power: The True Story of How One Man Wiped out Islamist Terrorism, Eliminated Antisemitism, Solved America's Energy Needs and Brought Lasting Peace to the Middle East."

[tower912]

That is only 4 points.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

"Hard Power: The True Story of How One Man Wiped out Islamist Terrorism, Eliminated Antisemitism, Solved America's Energy Needs and Brought Lasting Peace to the Middle East."

Unfortunately Peace in the Middle East is near impossible as islam is incompatible with Peace. Warring factions regularly kill each other over a disagreement on Prophets and the Quaran gives Carte Blanche to deceive, enslave, kill non-believers.

[Hards Alumni]

Unfortunately Peace in the Middle East is near impossible as islam is incompatible with Peace. Warring factions regularly kill each other over a disagreement on Prophets and the Quaran gives Carte Blanche to deceive, enslave, kill non-believers.

Islamophobia.  It's like racism!

[lawdog77]

Unfortunately Peace in the Middle East is near impossible as islam is incompatible with Peace. Warring factions regularly kill each other over a disagreement on Prophets and the Quaran gives Carte Blanche to deceive, enslave, kill non-believers.

Source?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Unfortunately Peace in the Middle East is near impossible as islam is incompatible with Peace. Warring factions regularly kill each other over a disagreement on Prophets and the Quaran gives Carte Blanche to deceive, enslave, kill non-believers.

And the bible says you can sell your daughters into slavery and stone to death people of other religions.

All the magic books are fucking stupid.

[The Sultan]

Unfortunately Peace in the Middle East is near impossible as islam is incompatible with Peace. Warring factions regularly kill each other over a disagreement on Prophets and the Quaran gives Carte Blanche to deceive, enslave, kill non-believers.

You are such an easily manipulated dullard.

[Pakuni]

Unfortunately Peace in the Middle East is near impossible as islam is incompatible with Peace. Warring factions regularly kill each other over a disagreement on Prophets and the Quaran gives Carte Blanche to deceive, enslave, kill non-believers.

Now do Northern Ireland.
Then do India.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Source?

   Read the later chapters of the Quaran where Muhammed changes his tone from living compatibly with all creeds until Islam became dominant and then he writes that non-believers should be converted or put to the sword.
in reply to the query about the Bible allowing selling daughters as slaves and stoning people, I thought everyone knew that the New Testament changed that way of thinking since those practices are not observed by Christians.

[lawdog77]

  Read the later chapters of the Quaran where Muhammed changes his tone from living compatibly with all creeds until Islam became dominant and then he writes that non-believers should be converted or put to the sword.
in reply to the query about the Bible allowing selling daughters as slaves and stoning people, I thought everyone knew that the New Testament changed that way of thinking since those practices are not observed by Christians.

There's context needed in the oft quoted passage:

https://medium.com/@StudioArabiya/does-the-quran-really-say-to-kill-the-disbelievers-c8a646774b45