Adios AA

[MU82]

“Wokeness” 😂😂😂

What? You didn't hear that, while they were imprisoned, all Stalin's victims could talk about was how woke he was? Learn some history, pal!

Of course, a couple millennia ago, there was one famous guy who actually was persecuted -- and ultimately crucified -- for being woke.

[Warriors4ever]

‘As for no Gulag look no further than Americans being held for three years in solitary without a trial for January 6. These are facts bruh’  ‘

Name one person held in solitary for three years since January 6, 2021 without a trial. You can’t because unless we have morphed magically into 2024, no one has been. And people are  still being identified and charged, so clearly they haven’t been.   And btw Elizabeth Warren criticized that decision in the first place.

[Uncle Rico]

Who was more woke?  Stalin or Mao?

IMO, it’s Mao but I’ll listen to someone who says Stalin

[lawdog77]

Who was more woke?  Stalin or Mao?

IMO, it’s Mao but I’ll listen to someone who says Stalin

Pol Pot has to be in the conversation, since his affiliation was the Party of Democratic Kampuchea

[Uncle Rico]

Pol Pot has to be in the conversation, since his affiliation was the Party of Democratic Kampuchea

That’s a good point.  He was as woke as the other two.  He might have been the wokest of them all.  I can only imagine what Bud Light put on their cans in Cambodia during his reign of terror

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

‘As for no Gulag look no further than Americans being held for three years in solitary without a trial for January 6. These are facts bruh’  ‘

Name one person held in solitary for three years since January 6, 2021 without a trial. You can’t because unless we have morphed magically into 2024, no one has been. And people are  still being identified and charged, so clearly they haven’t been.   And btw Elizabeth Warren criticized that decision in the first place.

I might be wrong about this, but the only people who are still being held prior to trial are either those who have been charged with violent offenses or conspiracy. And this is pretty much SOP in our federal courts.

IMO if people want to speed up the process to get defendants to trial, that would be fine with me. But in my experience, it is usually the defense that slows down the process.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Wallstreetwanderer will be along any moment now with an extensive list of J6 victims being held in solitary without trial, as well as the heaps of North Koreans that escaped to the U.S. to complain about our wokeness.

Any moment now.

[Pakuni]

I might be wrong about this, but the only people who are still being held prior to trial are either those who have been charged with violent offenses or conspiracy. And this is pretty much SOP in our federal courts.

IMO if people want to speed up the process to get defendants to trial, that would be fine with me. But in my experience, it is usually the defense that slows down the process.

Right. Under federal law, a defendant has a right to a trial within 70 days of indictment. It's rare that trials actually occur that quickly, but the delays are almost always at the request of the defense or with the defense's consent.
Obviously there are zero Jan. 6 defendants who have been held for three years now - we're not even three years beyond Jan. 6, 2021 - nor any held in solitary for their entire confinement. And I'd wager heavily that those in custody for more than a year are there due to continuances sought or consented to by their attorney.

[tower912]

Of course there are those who have been held for more than 3 years for crimes committed 2.5 years ago.   Because of time travel.   At least that is what the moms on my Facebook feed said during the 'give ivermectin to infants to help with teething' thread.

[Jockey]

Who was more woke?  Stalin or Mao?

IMO, it’s Mao but I’ll listen to someone who says Stalin

Gotta be Moms for Liberty. They wanna hear more from Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot - all of the people who should be heroes in America.

[Uncle Rico]

Gotta be Moms for Liberty. They wanna hear more from Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot - all of the people who should be heroes in America.

🤯

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Gotta be Moms for Liberty. They wanna hear more from Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot - all of the people who should be heroes in America.

Ku Klux Karens
Twatzies

[tower912]

Weaponized Karens.

[Lennys Tap]

Gotta be Moms for Liberty. They wanna hear more from Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot - all of the people who should be heroes in America.

I remember John Lennon lecturing my lefty friends in “Revolution”:

Cause if you carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain’t gonna make it anyone anyhow

I don’t recall anyone from either side loving Hitler, but Stalin and Mao were very much defended/admired by the left and vilified by the right in the USA.

[tower912]

I have never heard anyone defend Stalin or Mao.    Sadly, I have heard far too many people defend Hitler.     Maybe it is an age thing.   

[WhiteTrash]

I have never heard anyone defend Stalin or Mao.    Sadly, I have heard far too many people defend Hitler.     Maybe it is an age thing.

My experience has been the exact opposite. Not defending the horrific human rights violations but favoring the system of government and economic policies of Stalin, Mao and Castro. I guess the promise of the government taking care of your every want and need is a sweet siren's song to some.

Truth be told, the idea of not seeing political ads as a result of free elections is tempting. 

[jficke13]

My experience has been the exact opposite. Not defending the horrific human rights violations but favoring the system of government and economic policies of Stalin, Mao and Castro. I guess the promise of the government taking care of your every want and need is a sweet siren's song to some.

Truth be told, the idea of not seeing political ads as a result of free elections is tempting. 

Tankies gonna tankie.

[Pakuni]

My experience has been the exact opposite. Not defending the horrific human rights violations but favoring the system of government and economic policies of Stalin, Mao and Castro. I guess the promise of the government taking care of your every want and need is a sweet siren's song to some.

Truth be told, the idea of not seeing political ads as a result of free elections is tempting. 

Seriously?
I mean, even modern Western socialists think the economic policies and systems of government of Stalin, Mao and Castro were disastrous. Where exactly are you finding these people?

[jficke13]

Seriously?
I mean, even modern Western socialists think the economic policies and systems of government of Stalin, Mao and Castro were disastrous. Where exactly are you finding these people?

They're not modern western socialists. This isn't like Bernie/AOC/Olaf Scholz types. These are tankies. They're not serious people. Some blend of dorm room zealot, failed commune revolutionary from the 60s, and twitter trolls. As a practical matter, they do not exist. They make for a good butt of a joke.

In all seriousness though they are sometimes used to counterbalance the rightwing extremism, e.g. "See look at the Tankies advocating for the destruction of NATO and the United States, denying the Holodomer occurred, and advocating for Guavera-esque guerilla tactics." Except where this fails is that while some mopes on the internet with hammer and sickle avatars are saying nonsense like this from behind a screen, as a group Tankies aren't out there, for example, organizing and marching in the streets demanding the systematic elimination of the kulaks. And there's where the comparison breaks down.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

They're not modern western socialists. This isn't like Bernie/AOC/Olaf Scholz types. These are tankies. They're not serious people. Some blend of dorm room zealot, failed commune revolutionary from the 60s, and twitter trolls. As a practical matter, they do not exist. They make for a good butt of a joke.

In all seriousness though they are sometimes used to counterbalance the rightwing extremism, e.g. "See look at the Tankies advocating for the destruction of NATO and the United States, denying the Holodomer occurred, and advocating for Guavera-esque guerilla tactics." Except where this fails is that while some mopes on the internet with hammer and sickle avatars are saying nonsense like this from behind a screen, as a group Tankies aren't out there, for example, organizing and marching in the streets demanding the systematic elimination of the kulaks. And there's where the comparison breaks down.

This but Scoop

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Seriously?
I mean, even modern Western socialists think the economic policies and systems of government of Stalin, Mao and Castro were disastrous. Where exactly are you finding these people?

Probably the ones that said that the Soviets, the ChiComs, NK, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. just did communism wrong.

See also: jesmu.

[Pakuni]

Probably the ones that said that the Soviets, the ChiComs, NK, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. just did communism wrong.

See also: jesmu.

This makes no sense.
The people who say the Soviets, Chinese, etc. "did communism wrong"  wouldn't favor the economic policies and style of government imposed by Stalin and Mao. That's what they think the Soviets and Chinese got wrong.

[Skatastrophy]

This but Scoop

Religion, amirite?

[WhiteTrash]

Seriously?
I mean, even modern Western socialists think the economic policies and systems of government of Stalin, Mao and Castro were disastrous. Where exactly are you finding these people?

Where do they find me is the real question. 

Seriously, it's not a lot of people, kind of random in nature, but people I've worked with and family. They freely support people like AOC and ideas like "tax the rich". They are in favor of the redistribution wealth to the level that private property (even though they own homes) is offensive. The think everyone living in America should be guaranteed a "living wage", regardless of employment status because the US can afford it and it is the humane thing to do. They believe the Constitution is worthless because white men wrote it. They would much prefer one party, Dems, and genuinely hate Republicans. They believe anyone who votes Republican is a racist and sexist.

No private property + guaranteed wages + single party + eliminating the Constitution that setup the democratic republic = ?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

This makes no sense.
The people who say the Soviets, Chinese, etc. "did communism wrong"  wouldn't favor the economic policies and style of government imposed by Stalin and Mao. That's what they think the Soviets and Chinese got wrong.

Typing at a stop light.  My error.

Jesmu could still help you find some people that believe in communism.