Adios AA

[Lennys Tap]

Where do they find me is the real question. 

Seriously, it's not a lot of people, kind of random in nature, but people I've worked with and family. They freely support people like AOC and ideas like "tax the rich". They are in favor of the redistribution wealth to the level that private property (even though they own homes) is offensive. The think everyone living in America should be guaranteed a "living wage", regardless of employment status because the US can afford it and it is the humane thing to do. They believe the Constitution is worthless because white men wrote it. They would much prefer one party, Dems, and genuinely hate Republicans. They believe anyone who votes Republican is a racist and sexist.

No private property + guaranteed wages + single party + eliminating the Constitution that setup the democratic republic = ?

70% of Scoop?

[Uncle Rico]

Where do they find me is the real question. 

Seriously, it's not a lot of people, kind of random in nature, but people I've worked with and family. They freely support people like AOC and ideas like "tax the rich". They are in favor of the redistribution wealth to the level that private property (even though they own homes) is offensive. The think everyone living in America should be guaranteed a "living wage", regardless of employment status because the US can afford it and it is the humane thing to do. They believe the Constitution is worthless because white men wrote it. They would much prefer one party, Dems, and genuinely hate Republicans. They believe anyone who votes Republican is a racist and sexist.

No private property + guaranteed wages + single party + eliminating the Constitution that setup the democratic republic = ?

That's why I live in a gated community and don't pay taxes.  Being rich rules. 

[Pakuni]

Where do they find me is the real question. 

Seriously, it's not a lot of people, kind of random in nature, but people I've worked with and family. They freely support people like AOC and ideas like "tax the rich". They are in favor of the redistribution wealth to the level that private property (even though they own homes) is offensive. The think everyone living in America should be guaranteed a "living wage", regardless of employment status because the US can afford it and it is the humane thing to do. They believe the Constitution is worthless because white men wrote it. They would much prefer one party, Dems, and genuinely hate Republicans. They believe anyone who votes Republican is a racist and sexist.

No private property + guaranteed wages + single party + eliminating the Constitution that setup the democratic republic = ?

While I don't doubt such people exist, I would suggest they are a tiny minority of the American populace.
And the only political figure I can think of who wants to get rid of the Constitution is a Florida man who spent some time in the White House.

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cs3VZhOtyXz/?igshid=YzcxN2Q2NzY0OA==

[jesmu84]

Typing at a stop light.  My error.

Jesmu could still help you find some people that believe in communism.

Right this way, comrade.

Seriously though, it would be terrible to run our country like one of the nordics.

[tower912]

You don't want to shape this country up by using Nordic Track?

[Lennys Tap]

Right this way, comrade.

Seriously though, it would be terrible to run our country like one of the nordics.

Really? You want to compare a culture like the US to Norway? 98% white 83+% Norwegian Norway? 5.4 million people in the whole freakin' country Norway? Sure.

[Pakuni]

Really? You want to compare a culture like the US to Norway? 98% white 83+% Norwegian Norway? 5.4 million people in the whole freakin' country Norway? Sure.

Why is race and ethnicity relevant, Lenny?

[jesmu84]

Why is race and ethnicity relevant, Lenny?

I'd go further than that.

Why is race and ethnicity relevant when discussing how the government should choose an economic policy that benefits  its citizens?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I don't recall anyone from either side loving Hitler, but Stalin and Mao were very much defended/admired by the left and vilified by the right in the USA.

It might be helpful, then, if the current crop of conservatives and Republican politicians stop saying how much they admire Hitler.

[Pakuni]

I don't recall anyone from either side loving Hitler, but Stalin and Mao were very much defended/admired by the left and vilified by the right in the USA.

In 1939, there was a pro-Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden attended by more than 20,000. That's a lot of people loving Hitler.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

[TSmith34, Inc.]

In 1939, there was a pro-Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden attended by more than 20,000. That's a lot of people loving Hitler.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uftTLH6NRks

[WhiteTrash]

In 1939, there was a pro-Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden attended by more than 20,000. That's a lot of people loving Hitler.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

Yawn.  To be expected in the Democratic haven of NYC. 

Is it safe to say New Yorkers like Hitler more than the Knicks?

[Lennys Tap]

Yawn.  To be expected in the Democratic haven of NYC. 

Is it safe to say New Yorkers like Hitler more than the Knicks?

A lot more than 20,000 voted for the Communist Party candidates for president a lot later than 1939.

[Pakuni]

A lot more than 20,000 voted for the Communist Party candidates for president a lot later than 1939.

How many Republicans voted for David Duke?
(Hint: A lot)

[tower912]

Duke ran as a democrat in 1988.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

A lot more than 20,000 voted for the Communist Party candidates for president a lot later than 1939.

Goalposts successfully moved!

[Pakuni]

Duke ran as a democrat in 1988.

Yep
And did so poorly he switched parties, and was promptly elected to the Louisiana House. He then received substantial support (more than 600K votes each) in his campaigns for US Senaor and Louisiana governor.

[Lennys Tap]

I'd go further than that.

Why is race and ethnicity relevant when discussing how the government should choose an economic policy that benefits  its citizens?

The only way Socialism has a chance is if the electorate has a very high level of trust in the government. When you have a) a small country, 2) an almost totally homogeneous people/culture and c) 100 years of relative prosperity and growth under capitalism it can seem like a good idea. Such was the situation in Scandinavia in 1970. After 20 years of not so great results governments started moving back towards the center where they are today. The government programs that work with such a small population stay, one's that don't go.


I very much doubt that 340 million people of so many diverse cultures will ever trust government enough to turn over everything to them. But the false hope that government is the answer to people's woes is tempting so maybe I'm wrong.

[WhiteTrash]

Duke ran as a democrat in 1988.

The Democrats don't embrace the KKK, but the KKK was born and bread Democrat.

Look, the reality is fringe hate groups are in both parties but are not embraced by those parties. Neo-Nazi side with the Republicans.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Yep
And did so poorly he switched parties, and was promptly elected to the Louisiana House. He then received substantial support (more than 600K votes each) in his campaigns for US Senaor and Louisiana governor.

You sound like a fanboi.

[Pakuni]

The Democrats don't embrace the KKK, but the KKK was born and bread Democrat.

Look, the reality is fringe hate groups are in both parties but are not embraced by those parties. Neo-Nazi side with the Republicans.

Did you really just liken the KKK's roots from 150 years ago to the modern GOP playing footsie with white supremacists?

[Pakuni]

You sound like a fanboi.

Pig emoji. Clown emoji.
/Reaches for box of Kleenex.

[JWags85]

Really? You want to compare a culture like the US to Norway? 98% white 83+% Norwegian Norway? 5.4 million people in the whole freakin' country Norway? Sure.

Not to mention oil reserves that produce annual flows not far behind gulf nations not named Saudi, for that small population.  Everything about the Nordics is just a wildly apples to oranges comp for a population the size and diversity of the US.

[Pakuni]

Not to mention oil reserves that produce annual flows not far behind gulf nations not named Saudi, for that small population.  Everything about the Nordics is just a wildly apples to oranges comp for a population the size and diversity of the US.

But you're really only talkiing about Norway here. None of the other Nordic nations produce significant amounts of oil.
By "not far behind" ...
Barrels per day:
Iraq - 4.47 million
UAE - 3.47 million
Iran - 3.29 million
Kuwait  - 2.82 million
Norway - 1.7 million

So, what about Sweden, Finland and Denmark?
And I still need an explanation of why having a population that isn't 90+ percent white is prohibitive here. (I realize you're not the one who made that claim, exactly, though you do mention diversity).

Edit: I'm not saying the U.S. should pursue a Nordic economic model, I just don't quite grasp why our multiracial society makes it such an impossibility.