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Author Topic: Adios AA  (Read 15342 times)

ChitownSpaceForRent

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Re: Adios AA
« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2023, 11:31:13 AM »
The Supreme Court has agreed to take on a case concerning whether people convicted of domestic violence can own guns.
What could go wrong?

They’re out of control, the “religious practice” bakery ruling wasn’t even a real case. They made their ruling on a hypothetical situation that never even happened.

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« Reply #126 on: June 30, 2023, 11:41:05 AM »
That's the only way forward for them. There is no way they'll win the popular vote going forward with their continued attacks on things that young people are largely for. 2004 was truly the last win for them, they're absolutely going to have to try to change the rules.

They've been masks off with christofascism, and kids aren't into it.

The voting age should be the age at which it is legal to work and be taxed. No taxation without representation.

We will see more state Rs do what Kansas and Idaho have done. Ban young people or minorities from.any position of power in the state parties.


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« Reply #127 on: June 30, 2023, 12:00:43 PM »
Good thing all the Dems who were mad about Bernie getting “jobbed” and/or who weren’t “inspired” by Hillary either didn’t vote in 2016 or voted for Jill Stein. Because this is much better for them than what a Clinton presidency would’ve been. They might as well have just voted for Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett, the end of Roe v. Wade, the Christian state taking over, etc.
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Re: Adios AA
« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2023, 12:36:47 PM »
Asians were upset

Nothing to do with this guy?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Blum_(litigant)

Or the monied interests behind him?

ChitownSpaceForRent

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« Reply #129 on: June 30, 2023, 12:37:26 PM »
Good thing all the Dems who were mad about Bernie getting “jobbed” and/or who weren’t “inspired” by Hillary either didn’t vote in 2016 or voted for Jill Stein. Because this is much better for them than what a Clinton presidency would’ve been. They might as well have just voted for Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett, the end of Roe v. Wade, the Christian state taking over, etc.

Yup, there’s a lot of blame Dems have to shoulder. Not getting out to vote in 2016, RGB not retiring during the Obama administration was pretty selfish as well.

Still though, not confirming Garland was one of the most atrocious things I’ve seen in modern politics.

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« Reply #130 on: June 30, 2023, 12:40:46 PM »
Race-based affirmative action was an attempt to right the race-based wrongs of the past in this country.

If your argument is you believe race-based affirmative action contributes to lessening of a merit-based system, then you should also subscribe to the idea of getting rid of all types of affirmative action. If you don't, your arguments are completely hollow.

If your argument is you believe race-based affirmative action is unnecessary because we've either eliminated racial concerns in our current society or we've more than made up for wrongs committed in the past, I think you've got your head in the sand.

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« Reply #131 on: June 30, 2023, 12:42:17 PM »
Yup, there’s a lot of blame Dems have to shoulder. Not getting out to vote in 2016, RGB not retiring during the Obama administration was pretty selfish as well.

Still though, not confirming Garland was one of the most atrocious things I’ve seen in modern politics.

The Dem machine are the only ones responsible for not getting folks to the polls in 2016.

I have seen zero statistical evidence that 3rd party voters in 2016 could have changed the outcome

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« Reply #132 on: June 30, 2023, 12:44:32 PM »
Good thing all the Dems who were mad about Bernie getting “jobbed” and/or who weren’t “inspired” by Hillary either didn’t vote in 2016 or voted for Jill Stein. Because this is much better for them than what a Clinton presidency would’ve been. They might as well have just voted for Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett, the end of Roe v. Wade, the Christian state taking over, etc.

Tons of lib crap to unpack here.

PERHAPS instead of forcing your voters to eat crap, and smile pick someone else.  Gorsuch got there because Obama is a tit.  RBG also could have stepped down at ANY POINT when she knew her health was failing but she didn't.

Putting the blame on Bernie voters is so droll.  The blame lies with the DCCC and people who still think that our government is functional.  You can't play games with people who won't play by the rules.

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« Reply #133 on: June 30, 2023, 12:45:03 PM »
The Dem machine are the only ones responsible for not getting folks to the polls in 2016.

I have seen zero statistical evidence that 3rd party voters in 2016 could have changed the outcome

Not third party voters, but people who just didn’t show up. Was Hillary uninspiring to the left wing? absolutely but so is Biden.

Progressive dems wanted to make a statement and it cost them, and they still ended up with a moderate/right wing candidate in 2020…

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« Reply #134 on: June 30, 2023, 12:48:43 PM »
Gorsuch got there because Obama is a tit.

Complete bullcrap, there was no precedent  for Garland not to get confirmed.

Because it was an election year? Gimme a break. Anyways, it’s not like Scalia retired, he died it wasn’t the Obama administration telling him to step down.

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« Reply #135 on: June 30, 2023, 12:51:22 PM »
Complete bullcrap, there was no precedent  for Garland not to get confirmed.

Because it was an election year? Gimme a break. Anyways, it’s not like Scalia retired, he died it wasn’t the Obama administration telling him to step down.

It can be both.  Obama played way to nice with people who hated his guts.

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« Reply #136 on: June 30, 2023, 12:55:41 PM »
Complete bullcrap, there was no precedent  for Garland not to get confirmed.

Because it was an election year? Gimme a break. Anyways, it’s not like Scalia retired, he died it wasn’t the Obama administration telling him to step down.

The GOP does what they always do - wield power to the nth degree when they have it and obstruct when they don't.

The Dems refuse to wield power the same way. Frequently saying "tradition" or "norms" should be held on to, regardless of watching the GOP ignore them.

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« Reply #137 on: June 30, 2023, 12:58:17 PM »
Not third party voters, but people who just didn’t show up. Was Hillary uninspiring to the left wing? absolutely but so is Biden.

Progressive dems wanted to make a statement and it cost them, and they still ended up with a moderate/right wing candidate in 2020…
Also, I wonder if there was a way for the DNC to get progressive Dems to the polls and still have Hillary as the candidate?

Why do you think the DNC refuses to introduce progressive agenda items into their platform?

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Re: Adios AA
« Reply #138 on: June 30, 2023, 12:59:07 PM »
The GOP does what they always do - wield power to the nth degree when they have it and obstruct when they don't.

The Dems refuse to wield power the same way. Frequently saying "tradition" or "norms" should be held on to, regardless of watching the GOP ignore them.
IBTL
Both sides wield power in the same manner, by the way. Doesn't make it right, just shows our system is broken.

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Re: Adios AA
« Reply #139 on: June 30, 2023, 01:01:24 PM »
Complete bullcrap, there was no precedent  for Garland not to get confirmed.

Merrick Garland was a love note from Mitch McConnell reminding the Democrats of how they handled Robert Bork.

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« Reply #140 on: June 30, 2023, 01:01:43 PM »
IBTL
Both sides wield power in the same manner, by the way. Doesn't make it right, just shows our system is broken.

Of that, we agree.

It's the corporations and the Uber wealthy vs all.

(And I seriously doubt anyone in here is "Uber wealthy")

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« Reply #141 on: June 30, 2023, 01:02:52 PM »
The GOP does what they always do - wield power to the nth degree when they have it and obstruct when they don't.

The Dems refuse to wield power the same way. Frequently saying "tradition" or "norms" should be held on to, regardless of watching the GOP ignore them.

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« Reply #142 on: June 30, 2023, 01:10:39 PM »
Race-based affirmative action was an attempt to right the race-based wrongs of the past in this country.




This is the key. Decade after decade. generation after generation. Blacks were denied the basic human rights that allow families to build wealth and property. AA was an attempt to fix this.


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Re: Adios AA
« Reply #143 on: June 30, 2023, 01:20:13 PM »
IBTL
Both sides wield power in the same manner, by the way. Doesn't make it right, just shows our system is broken.

Wait til the Dems push for a rule change because one crazy Republican is holding back hundreds of military promotions. I can hear it now “Dems are changing the rules, so when we take over the senate we won’t play by the rules either.”

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« Reply #144 on: June 30, 2023, 01:22:38 PM »
Merrick Garland was a love note from Mitch McConnell reminding the Democrats of how they handled Robert Bork.

The Dems stole a SCOTUS pick, and then a few years later stole another? First I’m hearing of this.

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« Reply #145 on: June 30, 2023, 01:22:52 PM »
They’re out of control, the “religious practice” bakery ruling wasn’t even a real case. They made their ruling on a hypothetical situation that never even happened.
Nah.  They are doing what they are being paid to do.
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« Reply #146 on: June 30, 2023, 01:23:33 PM »
Yeah, I have to question the people that let you into Marquette
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« Reply #147 on: June 30, 2023, 01:31:39 PM »
Merrick Garland was a love note from Mitch McConnell reminding the Democrats of how they handled Robert Bork.
And Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas was Biden's biggest mistake.
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« Reply #148 on: June 30, 2023, 01:33:57 PM »
The Dem machine are the only ones responsible for not getting folks to the polls in 2016.

I have seen zero statistical evidence that 3rd party voters in 2016 could have changed the outcome
These points are correct.

3rd party voting broke about the same as it typically does. Blaming unenthusiastic Dems is an easy scapegoat, but that wasn't want provided the margin.  Dems were definitely a step behind on the social media effects and driving the vote.

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« Reply #149 on: June 30, 2023, 01:34:22 PM »
IBTL
Both sides wield power in the same manner, by the way. Doesn't make it right, just shows our system is broken.

No, they literally don't wield it in the same manner.

 

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