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Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on June 24, 2024, 04:10:07 PM
Basically in Giannis's career, the coach gets fired.

Basically the life of an NBA coach.
When the season opens in November, 14 of the 30 head coaches will have been on the job for two seasons or less.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on June 24, 2024, 09:27:47 AM
The hand-wringing over Bronny is so weird.
If the Lakers or any other team uses a second-round pick on Bronny in order to land LeBron for a season or two, that's a fantastic use of a second-round pick. A 99% certainty to benefit your franchise more than using that pick on some other player.

If you get LeBron with Bronny it's a really good deal. If LeBron goes with somebody else and just has his team wait until Bronny gets cut to pick him up it's a total waste - like many 2nd rounders are anyway.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on June 20, 2024, 09:45:55 PM
The rumor is that a team that ended up with a top 10 pick offered the Bulls a first during the season. Bulls decided to keep him in hopes of making a run instead.
Hindsight says not a smart move, but that's significantly different than someone offering them a top 10 pick today.

According to an article in the Athletic Sacramento offered the #13 pick as the main piece to the Bulls for Caruso and the Bulls said no.

lawdog77

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 24, 2024, 05:19:39 PM
According to an article in the Athletic Sacramento offered the #13 pick as the main piece to the Bulls for Caruso and the Bulls said no.
Is the 13th pick better than Giddey? I dont think it is in this draft

Pakuni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 24, 2024, 05:19:39 PM
According to an article in the Athletic Sacramento offered the #13 pick as the main piece to the Bulls for Caruso and the Bulls said no.

In that case, I don't think the Bulls chose unwisely. The #13 pick could end up a better player, but it's maybe 50-50 ... and maybe worse, given the team's recent track record and the perceived weakness of this draft class.
The best argument for the pick is that you don't have to give him a huge raise in the next year or two, as they will if they want to keep Giddey. But if the Bulls are going into a rebuild - please, go into a rebuild - money/cap space won't be an issue.

4everwarriors

He who hires, can also fire, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

WhiteTrash

The Bulls let Pat Williams become a RFA. Will the Bucks be among the dozens of $200M contract offers he will get?

rocket surgeon

someone doesn't want jj to be Lakers coach.  a little late and i'm sure this was looked in to prior to offering him Uber Millions, I hope.  this is why some people just prefer to stay where they are rather than find out all the "misdeeds' they've committed going back as far as kindergarten

https://www.outkick.com/sports/black-woman-claims-jj-redick-called-her-n-word-college-20-years-ago-no-proof
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

I doubt it was looked into because it's only source is a Twitter post from after he was hired.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 25, 2024, 08:18:56 PM
I doubt it was looked into because it's only source is a Twitter post from after he was hired.

well that sounds real credible...why now??  if it were that big of a deal, one would've thought it should have been addressed, oh, maybe 18 years go
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 25, 2024, 09:02:54 PM
Knicks really embracing that Nova New York thing

https://x.com/wojespn/status/1805782619382063592?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

I like Bridges, but holy smokes is that a lot to give up for him.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on June 25, 2024, 09:12:09 PM
I like Bridges, but holy smokes is that a lot to give up for him.
That is crazy. Knicks being Knicks I guess.

They could have gotten LaVine for 1 first round pick. Maybe less.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Pakuni on June 25, 2024, 09:12:09 PM
I like Bridges, but holy smokes is that a lot to give up for him.

Spot-on Pakuni. 

Jockey

Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 25, 2024, 09:37:34 PM
That is crazy. Knicks being Knicks I guess.

They could have gotten LaVine for 1 first round pick. Maybe less.

Bridges is a way better player.

Draft picks aren't as important as they used to be. So much money around that you can add pieces via free agency.

jesmu84

Knicks gonna trade thibs to get back picks and offer Jay??

lawdog77

now we know why OG opted out. Not sure who is a better fit in Thibs system. OG or Bridges. OG shot a better percentage from 2 and 3. Defensively, I am too lazy to look up advanced stats.

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 25, 2024, 08:45:02 PM
well that sounds real credible...why now??  if it were that big of a deal, one would've thought it should have been addressed, oh, maybe 18 years go

It's one tweet that's gained no traction except for the site you linked to.

There is more controversy about him saying "f*ck" during his introductory press conference than there is this.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on June 25, 2024, 10:38:29 PM
Bridges is a way better player.

Draft picks aren't as important as they used to be. So much money around that you can add pieces via free agency.

He's a better player but he's not worth what the Knicks are giving up.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Jockey on June 25, 2024, 10:38:29 PM
Bridges is a way better player.

Draft picks aren't as important as they used to be. So much money around that you can add pieces via free agency.
I'll admit I am not a fan of LaVine, as a player (seems to be a good guy), but he is a top 75 player in the NBA and teams are not willing to part with draft choices for him. Seems a lot of teams still value picks highly. But to your point, maybe not as highly as before but they still place high value on them.

I agree that Bridges is better than LaVine, but is he 4 first round picks better? Maybe.

MU82

LaVine has come to be viewed as a player who doesn't make his team better. I've seen some "insiders" say that he actually is a net negative.

One might or might not agree with that assessment, but that's his rep.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

PGsHeroes32

The Knicks GM needs to go to a Villanova anonymous meeting or something
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on June 26, 2024, 07:52:38 AM
LaVine has come to be viewed as a player who doesn't make his team better. I've seen some "insiders" say that he actually is a net negative.

One might or might not agree with that assessment, but that's his rep.
Why would someone say that about a player that has only made the playoffs once in his career?  ;)

WhiteTrash

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 26, 2024, 07:57:44 AM
The Knicks GM needs to go to a Villanova anonymous meeting or something
LOL, I would agree but it seems to be working for him. Right?

Its DJOver

Am I mathing right? KD gets flipped for what turns out to be 9 firsts?
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

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