Author Topic: 2023-24 NBA Thread (Read 72251 times)

MuggsyB · « **Reply #375 on:** September 10, 2023, 08:56:43 AM »

Quote from: MUfan12 on September 10, 2023, 08:46:16 AM

LOL. Because of this?! If they crap the bed with a full squad in the Olympics I'll be right there with you. But this tournament means nada.

If it means nothing why not send the college players? And why have three coaches on the bench with a combined 8 NBA titles? The fact is we have significant probs vs the International game and their coaches schooled us. And it's not an easy fix whatsoever even if better players commit. Especially at the 4/5 positions.

And by the way Serbia with Jokic? That's a problem. Canada with Murray and Wiggins? Problem. Hell, Germany with Theis was a freaking problem. Are there USA bigs that can play at all besides Anthony Davis vs these teams?

What should our line-up be moving forward?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole · « **Reply #376 on:** September 10, 2023, 09:21:40 AM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 10, 2023, 08:56:43 AM

If it means nothing why not send the college players? And why have three coaches on the bench with a combined 8 NBA titles? The fact is we have significant probs vs the International game and their coaches schooled us. And it's not an easy fix whatsoever even if better players commit. Especially at the 4/5 positions.

And by the way Serbia with Jokic? That's a problem. Canada with Murray and Wiggins? Problem. Hell, Germany with Theis was a freaking problem. Are there USA bigs that can play at all besides Anthony Davis vs these teams?

What should our line-up be moving forward?

Do you panic over everything? The US sent a lower level team. If they send a top team, and it loses, then maybe worry. Or maybe realize that it isn’t 1992 any longer and the world has made steady progress in catching up.

Imagine getting this fired up about the FIBA championship. Lol…

tower912 · « **Reply #377 on:** September 10, 2023, 09:26:37 AM »

Wojo has experience coaching the national team.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #378 on:** September 10, 2023, 09:53:37 AM »

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on September 10, 2023, 09:21:40 AM

Do you panic over everything? The US sent a lower level team. If they send a top team, and it loses, then maybe worry. Or maybe realize that it isn’t 1992 any longer and the world has made steady progress in catching up.

Imagine getting this fired up about the FIBA championship. Lol…

They just need to focus with more attack intensity

MuggsyB · « **Reply #379 on:** September 10, 2023, 09:55:25 AM »

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on September 10, 2023, 09:21:40 AM

Do you panic over everything? The US sent a lower level team. If they send a top team, and it loses, then maybe worry. Or maybe realize that it isn’t 1992 any longer and the world has made steady progress in catching up.

Imagine getting this fired up about the FIBA championship. Lol…

I'm fine, who says I'm panicked?

MuggsyB · « **Reply #380 on:** September 10, 2023, 09:56:05 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 10, 2023, 09:53:37 AM

They just need to focus with more attack intensity

This wasn't a focus/intensity issue.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #381 on:** September 10, 2023, 09:57:08 AM »

Quote from: tower912 on September 10, 2023, 09:26:37 AM

Wojo has experience coaching the national team.

We have probs Tower, I'm looking for viable solutions.

MUfan12 · « **Reply #382 on:** September 10, 2023, 10:09:44 AM »

The US has one 7 of the last 8 Olympic golds, including the last 4. There are no major problems winning at the international level.

The reason you take pros is to build depth in the player pool and get them experience in the FIBA realm.

WhiteTrash · « **Reply #383 on:** September 10, 2023, 10:12:46 AM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 10, 2023, 05:38:02 AM

We need to reevaluate how to choose players and coaches for USA Basketball.

More players from Chicago?

MuggsyB · « **Reply #384 on:** September 10, 2023, 10:17:39 AM »

Quote from: MUfan12 on September 10, 2023, 10:09:44 AM

The US has one 7 of the last 8 Olympic golds, including the last 4. There are no major problems winning at the international level.

The reason you take pros is to build depth in the player pool and get them experience in the FIBA realm.

With all due respect I don't think it's that simple. For example say Anthony Davis doesn't want to play? Who goes to the Olympics?

MuggsyB · « **Reply #385 on:** September 10, 2023, 10:20:07 AM »

Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 10, 2023, 10:12:46 AM

More players from Chicago?

What can be done about this debacle of an organization? Get rid of everyone immediately?

WhiteTrash · « **Reply #386 on:** September 10, 2023, 10:21:20 AM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 10, 2023, 10:20:07 AM

What can be done about this debacle of an organization? Get rid of everyone immediately?

It starts at the top, right?

tower912 · « **Reply #387 on:** September 10, 2023, 11:12:01 AM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 10, 2023, 09:57:08 AM

We have probs Tower, I'm looking for viable solutions.

We?

MUBurrow · « **Reply #388 on:** September 10, 2023, 11:44:51 AM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 10, 2023, 08:56:43 AM

If it means nothing why not send the college players? And why have three coaches on the bench with a combined 8 NBA titles?

Because you send the best guys who are willing to do it? Durant and JFB would rather go to the US Open, but Kerr, et al are happy to coach the team. To each their own - I wouldn't risk injury in FIBA if I were a star either. That's the sole reason that the guys who are there are the guys who are there.

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 10, 2023, 08:56:43 AM

And by the way Serbia with Jokic? That's a problem. Canada with Murray and Wiggins? Problem. Hell, Germany with Theis was a freaking problem. Are there USA bigs that can play at all besides Anthony Davis vs these teams?

Sure - Jokic is a 2x MVP. The NBA hasn't figured out how to deal with him, so I'm not sure that a hastily thrown together team of US nationals will figure it out either. That's just what happens when the best player in the world doesn't happen to be American?

tower912 · « **Reply #389 on:** September 10, 2023, 11:50:24 AM »

Precisely. All a coach can do is to put together the best team out of those willing to play. It isn't the Ryder Cup. This team was the equivalent of Harry Higgs, Joel Dahmen, Kevin Kisner etc., with Keegan Bradley as the anchor. Talented players all. Way better than me. But not the A-team.

forgetful · « **Reply #390 on:** September 10, 2023, 12:02:48 PM »

Quote from: MUBurrow on September 10, 2023, 11:44:51 AM

Because you send the best guys who are willing to do it? Durant and JFB would rather go to the US Open, but Kerr, et al are happy to coach the team. To each their own - I wouldn't risk injury in FIBA if I were a star either. That's the sole reason that the guys who are there are the guys who are there.

Not to go conspiracy theory on this...but I'm going to go conspiracy theory on this. It is also much harder to pass the Olympic drug tests than the NBA drug tests.