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Author Topic: NBA coaching carousel  (Read 3719 times)

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2023, 09:34:56 PM »
Bucks window to win another Championship is now. The team needs to hire a coach with a championship pedigree.

 Coaching wealthy professional athletes with more job security than a coach is not easy. Bucks need a guy who has climbed the mountain already.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2023, 05:17:00 AM »
They just fired a coach with a championship pedigree.   As did many teams.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #52 on: May 17, 2023, 05:24:07 AM »
IMO, it's Nurse, unless Giannis has someone he likes more.

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #53 on: May 17, 2023, 05:31:00 AM »
How 'bout tossin' some of that hedge fund money at Brad Stevens, hey?
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2023, 10:41:01 AM »
How 'bout tossin' some of that hedge fund money at Brad Stevens, hey?

Why would you want a guy who has no interest in coaching? Even if he took the money because it's money, his heart wouldn't be in it.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2023, 10:55:17 AM »
Between Nurse, Vogel, and Monry Williams who would you go with?

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2023, 11:15:26 AM »
Could Hologram Al take the job? Or would Marquette hold him to his contact?
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2023, 11:25:22 AM »
I'm holding out for Phil Jackson at 78 years old
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2023, 11:26:48 AM »
Between Nurse, Vogel, and Monry Williams who would you go with?

Nurse, Monty, Vogel.

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2023, 11:32:03 AM »
Between Nurse, Vogel, and Monry Williams who would you go with?

Personally, I’d choose Nurse. My biggest concern with him is he seems to be a grating personality and doesn’t have a great relationship with players. Which I think is a Bud strength.

Also, I think he’s willing to play guys much longer minutes than Bud. I think Bud overdid it with the load management. I’m not sure Nurse’s way is better though.

Nurse does seem like someone who will make adjustments more on the fly. I’m hoping someone can hold the team more accountable as they seem to get helter skelter when they face adversity. I’m hoping Nurse would make them more disciplined.

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2023, 12:04:15 PM »
I suppose I'm with you guys regarding Nurse.

Off the subject that Hachimura trade was a complete heist.  Washington essentially gave him away for nothing? 
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2023, 12:20:18 PM »
Nurse is the safe pick if you're the Bucks executives. He'd be a midwestern culture fit, and he's seen some success. He's white and he's not a woman so people from Mequon will be happy.

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2023, 01:36:13 PM »
Frank Vogel is an interesting name.

He had 5 winning seasons in 6 years in Indiana, including two division titles (their first since the Reggie Miller era). He had a winning postseason record. He was fired in 2016 after a first-round exit because Larry Bird thought the team "needed a new voice." No Pacers coach has won a playoff series since he left, and the franchise is now a hot mess.

Vogel then spent two years with an Orlando team that had zero veteran talent and whose leading scorer was Evan Fournier; no coach would have won there. He was doomed when the GM who hired him was fired.

He then went to the Lakers and coached them to the NBA title in the bubble season. The next year, both James and Davis missed major portions of the season and neither was fully healthy in the playoffs, and they lost in the first round. The year after that, AD again missed half the season and Vogel had to deal with the horrific inclusion of Westbrook.

I didn't follow any of his teams enough to really know his coaching style, but the guy has won every time the talent on hand gave him a fighting chance to win.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2023, 04:54:22 PM »
According to Woj, the Bucks interviewed Kelvin Sampson 

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« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2023, 05:02:38 PM »
According to Woj, the Bucks interviewed Kelvin Sampson

By phone?

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2023, 05:10:23 PM »
According to Woj, the Bucks interviewed Kelvin Sampson

If he was 5-10 years younger and I had a young team looking to take the step towards Playoff contention I could get behind that.  I'm not sure I want to give a college coach his shot when I have a 2 year window to show Giannis he can continue to win in Milwaukee.

The Bucks sure are casting a wide net.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2023, 07:46:02 PM »
i really like monty williams.  he seemed to be a players coach; they responded to him.  he was under a win it all NOW and i don't think KD is/was the answer unless they can add a banger.  they could switch landale to a power forward and play him with ayton.  then they would need some reliable bench guys like portis to spell either one of them

monty would be my choice-i see some shaka in him from a players relationship viewpoint
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #67 on: May 17, 2023, 08:11:51 PM »
The Bucks nterviewed Kelvin Sampson?
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #68 on: May 17, 2023, 08:21:10 PM »
The Bucls interviewed Kelvin Sampson?

Runs a pro offense and is a former NBA assistant. Not complete out there.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2023, 09:58:50 PM »
Runs a pro offense and is a former NBA assistant. Not complete out there.

An assistant with the Bucks as well, but I don’t think with the current owners.

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2023, 06:17:09 AM »
So what we've learned is that there aren't many intriguing potential NBA coaches out there.

If the Bucks hire Doc or Nurse it feels like the NBA is just playing keys in a bowl party with head coaches.

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« Reply #71 on: May 18, 2023, 06:20:09 AM »
Yes.   And we are learning that winning a championship does not engender loyalty or patience.   A lot of championship keys in that bowl.
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« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2023, 07:38:27 AM »
We aren't drawn to the former head coaches because we know their faults. We just don't know the assistant coaches faults.

One of the hot assistants that the Bucks interviewed the last time was David Fizdale. Instead they hired the retread coach who was fired by Atlanta, while Fizdale looked terrible as the head coach in Memphis and New York.
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« Reply #73 on: May 26, 2023, 07:38:28 AM »
The Bucks seem to have found three finalists. Adrian Griffin, Kenny Atkinson, and Nick Nurse. Who do we like?
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« Reply #74 on: May 26, 2023, 07:48:33 AM »
The Bucks seem to have found three finalists. Adrian Griffin, Kenny Atkinson, and Nick Nurse. Who do we like?

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