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tower912

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NBA coaching carousel
« on: May 15, 2023, 03:24:45 PM »
Because skatastrophy asked for it.....

A lot of the same names being tossed around in various places.

What will happen first, a new coach for Milwaukee or a new job for Budenholzer?
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2023, 03:35:21 PM »
Monty Williams to the Bucks?

Tom Izzo to the Suns?

Coach Bud to the G-League?
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2023, 03:38:08 PM »
Izzo is not going to the league.  Neither is Wright.

The equivalent of a coaching trade would be funny.  Bud to Phoenix, Williams to Milwaukee.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2023, 04:57:10 PM »
Quote from: tower912 on May 15, 2023, 03:38:08 PM
Izzo is not going to the league.  Neither is Wright.

I don't think Wright wants the NBA [very smart knowing where he'd be successful]
I don't think the NBA wants Izzo [old & damaged goods]
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2023, 05:25:09 PM »
Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 15, 2023, 04:57:10 PM
I don't think Wright wants the NBA [very smart knowing where he'd be successful]
I don't think the NBA wants Izzo [old & damaged goods]

The Suns connection is they are owned by Mat Ishiba who played for Izzo.  I think Ishiba would prefer Izzo stay at Michigan State.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2023, 05:28:57 PM »
If you're the Bucks and Wright isn't an option who's your #1 target and why? 
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2023, 05:32:27 PM »
Someone with NBA experience.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2023, 05:35:29 PM »
Quote from: tower912 on May 15, 2023, 05:32:27 PM
Someone with NBA experience.

Nurse?  Vogel?  Monty?
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2023, 05:39:10 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 15, 2023, 05:28:57 PM
If you're the Bucks and Wright isn't an option who's your #1 target and why? 

Wright shouldn’t be their number one option.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2023, 05:44:17 PM »
I would want a coach with championship experience in different systems. Helpful if they have been to the finals or won a championship themselves.   A coach who has experience managing a superstar. 
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2023, 09:15:12 PM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 15, 2023, 05:25:09 PM
The Suns connection is they are owned by Mat Ishiba who played for Izzo.  I think Ishiba would prefer Izzo stay at Michigan State.

Ishbia will hire Izzo only if Izzo promises to bring the younger Hauser to the Suns with him.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2023, 10:53:13 AM »
Doc Rivers has entered the carousel

3 consecutive ECFs Conference Semi-Finals with the Sixers, and terminated.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2023, 10:56:25 AM »
I wonder if Doc retires to the golf course.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2023, 11:00:14 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on May 16, 2023, 10:56:25 AM
I wonder if Doc retires to the golf course.

I doubt it. 
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2023, 11:03:47 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on May 16, 2023, 10:56:25 AM
I wonder if Doc retires to the golf course.

I wonder if he doesn't move to a front office role.  He's still middle aged in the coaching world.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2023, 11:10:28 AM »
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 16, 2023, 10:53:13 AM
Doc Rivers has entered the carousel

3 consecutive ECFs with the Sixers, and terminated.

He hasn't made an ECF since 2012.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2023, 11:14:05 AM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 15, 2023, 05:28:57 PM
If you're the Bucks and Wright isn't an option who's your #1 target and why?

Becky Hammon. She was one of the premier assistant names for years, went through the interview process here when Bud was hired, and when she finally got a shot at a head gig, all she did was post the best record in the league and win the WNBA Championship.

If they want to look at the college ranks, I'd tab Bill Self. I think his style would translate well to the NBA and he's done very well adapting to his personnel and winning regardless.

The last thing I would do is stick with the Nurse/Williams/Bud style circular hiring ring. Feels often like NBA coaching is just musical chairs, and I think having someone with fresh eyes that can be a long term answer is a better course.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2023, 11:17:40 AM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 16, 2023, 11:14:05 AM
Becky Hammon. She was one of the premier assistant names for years, went through the interview process here when Bud was hired, and when she finally got a shot at a head gig, all she did was post the best record in the league and win the WNBA Championship.

If they want to look at the college ranks, I'd tab Bill Self. I think his style would translate well to the NBA and he's done very well adapting to his personnel and winning regardless.

The last thing I would do is stick with the Nurse/Williams/Bud style circular hiring ring. Feels often like NBA coaching is just musical chairs, and I think having someone with fresh eyes that can be a long term answer is a better course.

Has Self ever expressed an interest in coaching in the NBA? Maybe he has; I seriously don't know. He's also 60, and he had to miss the NCAA and Big 12 tournaments due to heart issues.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2023, 11:20:08 AM »
The NBA is a player driven league. Can't see the Bucks ownership trusting a woman to get the most outta #34, #22, etc. Just sayin'.

Bud to Phoenix
Nurse to Philly
#31 to MKE, hey?
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2023, 11:22:44 AM »
If Detroit beats the fix and wins the lottery, they will have the coaches contacting them instead of vice versa.   Their young core healthy plus the French treat? 
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2023, 11:29:53 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on May 16, 2023, 11:22:44 AM
If Detroit beats the fix and wins the lottery, they will have the coaches contacting them instead of vice versa.   Their young core healthy plus the French treat?

I think you should start a separate Wemby thread.   The potential of this young man is crazy scary by all accounts.  In four years we could be looking at a 7'5 player that is a combination of Tatum and Giannis?  :)

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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2023, 11:35:52 AM »
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 16, 2023, 11:20:08 AM
The NBA is a player driven league. Can't see the Bucks ownership trusting a woman to get the most outta #34, #22, etc. Just sayin'.

Bud to Phoenix
Nurse to Philly
#31 to MKE, hey?

I would trust her over any of the musical chairs candidate. Honestly, I think she's not just the best candidate in the field, but far and away the best. 1,000 times better than Doc. And that's probably understating it.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2023, 11:38:27 AM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 16, 2023, 11:35:52 AM
I would trust her over any of the musical chairs candidate. Honestly, I think she's not just the best candidate in the field, but far and away the best. 1,000 times better than Doc. And that's probably understating it.

But if you want a fresh perspective then you probably don't want someone who has spent her entire coaching career outside of one year on the same bench the guy you just fired spent a bunch of time on.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2023, 11:47:57 AM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 16, 2023, 11:35:52 AM
I would trust her over any of the musical chairs candidate. Honestly, I think she's not just the best candidate in the field, but far and away the best. 1,000 times better than Doc. And that's probably understating it.
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Re: NBA coaching carousel
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2023, 11:53:29 AM »
Not sure why Nurse is being lumped in with the "musical chairs"/retread crew.  He's only been with the Raptors as an assistant/HC.  He was a very very good coach in Europe and then arguably the best G League coach ever before he was on an NBA bench.  You can not like his last 3 years in Toronto.  Thats fair.  But I don't think lumping him in with Bud/Monty/etc... is fair.
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