2023 Portal Transfers

[1318WWells]

It's not good for the game and it also makes them less likely to get an education imo.

Exactly. A college education is worth about $200,000. There are too many people involved that don't value that.

[Shooter McGavin]

Marquette could have a top 10 team in the preseason next year and you want to bring in a guy who will expect 25-30 minutes? 

Dickinson isn't the problem himself, the problem is adding a player that could totally change team chemistry because of the minutes he would expect.  If the 9 remaining players all come back next year, there isn't a glaring need, so Shaka has to be very careful on how he wants to fill any open spots.

Gotcha.  My question was more from a perspective of him potentially being a bad guy and I was unaware.  Understand your reasoning now.

[THRILLHO]

Exactly. A college education is worth about $200,000. There are too many people involved that don't value that.

It's worth that much or it costs that much?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Exactly. A college education is worth about $200,000. There are too many people involved that don't value that.

I asked Muggsy and didn't get an answer. How exactly does players making NIL money keep them from getting an education?

[MU82]

Exactly. A college education is worth about $200,000. There are too many people involved that don't value that.

Silliness.

NIL keeps kids in college and gives them a chance to progress toward degrees. Additionally, the game is healthier and more exciting than ever. And obviously it's not being dominated by a handful of programs ... as those who would be included in everybody's "handful" will be watching a 4-seed and 5-seed battle for the NCAA title in 2 days.

[brewcity77]

Yeah, I don't get people saying they would not want Dickenson at MU.

On the court he would slow down the pace and demand the ball. How would he coexist with Oso? I wouldn't be confident in his ability to manage switches on defense. He's a great Big 10 big, but there's a reason those teams flame out when they do.

More than that is the off court, though. The chatter, the podcast, maybe it's just his NIL bit but it's a constant distraction and this team has been great at avoiding those distractions.

If the staff feels otherwise, that's their prerogative, but I think there are better on and off court fits for this program and culture.

[79Warrior]

It's worth that much or it costs that much?

Bingo!

[Hards Alumni]

I just scanned the Badger Board ( "Buckyville") and I almost soiled myself. There seems to be a belief that Gard has secured 2 "silent commits" ( their words) from 2 players in the transfer portal. Which immediately took me back a few years to when the Hauser boys were contemplating their futures. And Buckyville was all abuzz at the time because they believed Gard had obtained "silent verbals" for both to come to Madison.

Now, I don't follow recruiting as much as others do. Can someone tell me what's stronger, a "silent verbal" or a "silent commit"? Or is this a B10 thing?

Silent verbals are not a thing.  At this point, why wait to commit?  What would the point of the mystery be?

They're delusional.

[Ardmore Mug]

Those players are waiting/hoping for better deals ! ! ! 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Silent verbals are not a thing.  At this point, why wait to commit?  What would the point of the mystery be?

They're delusional.

They are a thing. Players commit days to months before publicly announcing their commitment. Unless you think Shaka is tuning into players Instagram announcements not already knowing the result.

[SoCalEagle]

Silliness.

NIL keeps kids in college and gives them a chance to progress toward degrees. Additionally, the game is healthier and more exciting than ever. And obviously it's not being dominated by a handful of programs ... as those who would be included in everybody's "handful" will be watching a 4-seed and 5-seed battle for the NCAA title in 2 days.

82, I have also come to the same conclusion.  It used to be that some schools would blatantly cheat and pay their players (or cheat in some other way) while the vast majority of other schools would pretty much play by the rules.  Under the new rules, the cheaters get less of an advantage.  Is that why there is more parity in college hoops, as we have seen this year?  I'm not quite sure of that, but it certainly could be one of the reasons why. 

[Hards Alumni]

They are a thing. Players commit days to months before publicly announcing their commitment. Unless you think Shaka is tuning into players Instagram announcements not already knowing the result.

Specifically via the portal, sorry if that wasn't clear.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Specifically via the portal, sorry if that wasn't clear.

Ah. Even so there is often a period of a days to even a week or two between between a transfer verballing and then officially announcing their commitment. It does happen. In rarer cases it can be month or two when a player needs to jump through some sort of academic hoop in order to qualify at the new school. Though the Badgers seem to lead the country in silent verbals that end up committing somewhere else.

[panda]

Ed Cooley with a swing and a miss on Eddie Lampkin.

[Herman Cain]

Ed Cooley with a swing and a miss on Eddie Lampkin.

Excellent news.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Excellent news.

Are you anti Cooley and Co. now Hermie?

[Herman Cain]

Are you anti Cooley and Co. now Hermie?

Yes.

[warriorchick]

Ed Cooley with a swing and a miss on Eddie Lampkin.

Guess Eddie wanted to duck that entire controversy.

[PGsHeroes32]

Dickinson despies Bucky and they despise him, so he would fit in that sense

[1318WWells]

It's worth that much or it costs that much?

I meant roughly what the the scholarship is worth short term. What the student-athlete would have to pay if they weren't an athlete, just a student.

It can be worth much more down the road depending on major, work put in, doors opened through networking, etc.

I think that's gotten lost in all of this. Too many people don't value it.
Hopefully MU82 is right and NIL keeps kids in school longer and they earn their degrees. Hope they're not just collecting the bag of cash and moving on.

I hope NIL doesn't turn NCAA basketball into the G league in disguise. Imagine if Marquette had to pay up for Todd Mayo to stay. Professional basketball should be the way to get rid of those types of players from your program, not making your program into professional basketball so they can stay. Hope we don't end up stuck in those murky waters. There's already enough bad contracts in the NBA which makes that product difficult to watch and way overpriced to attend.

I also hope NIL doesn't further drive up the cost of my non-division 1 athlete level progeny to attend a school like Marquette as plain old students.

[DFW HOYA]

Ed Cooley with a swing and a miss on Eddie Lampkin.

Lampkin was never going to make a difference--he averaged fewer points than Qudus Wahab did.

[wadesworld]

I will never understand why people would want the best talent to not play in college.  "That dang Scoot Henderson wants some money to entertain me, he won't just play for the good of the education that he won't be using until after he's a multi-millionaire!"

Yeah, please give me the Scoot Hendersons of the world in college basketball.

[Viper]

Silliness.

NIL keeps kids in college and gives them a chance to progress toward degrees. Additionally, the game is healthier and more exciting than ever. And obviously it's not being dominated by a handful of programs ... as those who would be included in everybody's "handful" will be watching a 4-seed and 5-seed battle for the NCAA title in 2 days.

so, pay a guy to keep him in school so he can get that degree? Talk about rationalization. How 'bout this...'we want to win games so we'll pay you.'

And I'm sure your 'payroll' check is in the mail.

[WhiteTrash]

I also hope NIL doesn't further drive up the cost of my non-division 1 athlete level progeny to attend a school like Marquette as plain old students.

NIL will not drive up the cost of attending any school, supply and demand will determine the cost of tuition.

It will divert resources from other areas to sports. Tuition and/or donation revenue will make its way to players. (note: no value judgment with this statement)

The biggest problem with the current NIL structure (or lack there of) is it creates an uneven playing field not seen in any other sport.

[muwarrior69]

Marquette could have a top 10 team in the preseason next year and you want to bring in a guy who will expect 25-30 minutes? 

Dickinson isn't the problem himself, the problem is adding a player that could totally change team chemistry because of the minutes he would expect.  If the 9 remaining players all come back next year, there isn't a glaring need, so Shaka has to be very careful on how he wants to fill any open spots.

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If I were Shaka I would offer the best offensive rebounder in the portal.