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Uncle Rico

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2023, 12:52:16 PM
Sounds to me like Shaka expects 1 or both to be gone.

Using phrases like "most of our guys" and "vast majority of guys" seems to hint at a departure or 2.

https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1641857777915121665?t=hSiMYIF8W8xX_eDpgdGlNA&s=19

Oso and OMax are gowne.  Cam is taking the bag.  8th place here we come
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CountryRoads

Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 31, 2023, 01:04:24 PM
"vast majority of our guys that played significant minutes" which is interesting. Feels like there is one more. Unlikely Tyler given his Gram. I'd guess it'd be from our guards given the logjam there, but that's pure speculation. But hey, Scoop is here for tinfoil hats and wild speculation.

Sean: I don't think it's shaping up that his role will be larger next year.

Ben: if Omax and Oso stay, his role likely won't be larger.

Oso/Omax: both have pro decisions

Definitely some honest discussions to be had if Oso and Omax decide to stay and for Sean with regards to the logjam at guard.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2023, 01:05:01 PM
Oso and OMax are gowne.  Cam is taking the bag.  8th place here we come

But not Kam, so we're good.

I'd say OMax is most likely the one that would be gone should anyone decide to pursue professional opportunities, but I also think he's the most difficult to replace.

As Shaka said, we have a long way to go. Typically by June 1 you know what you have. About 2 months of happenings yet to go through.
VIOLENCE!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
But not Kam, so we're good.

I'd say OMax is most likely the one that would be gone should anyone decide to pursue professional opportunities, but I also think he's the most difficult to replace.

As Shaka said, we have a long way to go. Typically by June 1 you know what you have. About 2 months of happenings yet to go through.

They're all gone.  Better get Jordan Davis on the horn
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Goose

Golden

I do not think we will need to wait until June 1st. I would be very surprised if Shaka rolled the dice and did not get an impact transfer to replace a volume guy. If one or two guys are leaving, he needs to fill in those spots sooner than later, IMO. Next year might be a very, very good MU team and waiting until June 1st would be a major gamble on Shaka's part. Sometimes you need to force someone's hand. If he thinks Omax is 70%gone he needs to replace him ASAP. If he comes back, you have another high level guy on the team.

IMO, there is quite likely a number of guys that are under the radar that has caught Shaka's attention. Those guys could be willing to take a flier and hope for 25 mpg, but know it could be 10-12 mpg.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2023, 12:52:16 PM
Sounds to me like Shaka expects 1 or both to be gone.

Using phrases like "most of our guys" and "vast majority of guys" seems to hint at a departure or 2.

https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1641857777915121665?t=hSiMYIF8W8xX_eDpgdGlNA&s=19

Maybe one or both leave but you're taking a massive leap from a relatively innocuous comment.

Jockey

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 31, 2023, 01:13:25 PM
Sean: I don't think it's shaping up that his role will be larger next year.

Ben: if Omax and Oso stay, his role likely won't be larger.

Oso/Omax: both have pro decisions

Definitely some honest discussions to be had if Oso and Omax decide to stay and for Sean with regards to the logjam at guard.

You make it sound like there are Brinks trucks full of money for Oso and O-Max. If they decide to go pro, it's the G-League, not big contracts. My guess would be that they make just as much than if they declare.

dgies9156

Coach Shaka is being respectful of his players. He is treating them as men and recognizing the realities of today's environment.

I'm optimistic in that I think they'll all be back. But if they're not, that's the beauty of Coach Shaka. He finds what he needs and coaches up!

Hards Alumni

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 31, 2023, 12:52:16 PM
Sounds to me like Shaka expects 1 or both to be gone.

Using phrases like "most of our guys" and "vast majority of guys" seems to hint at a departure or 2.

https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1641857777915121665?t=hSiMYIF8W8xX_eDpgdGlNA&s=19

I think you're reading into it too much.  Why would anyone on the team still be waiting to put their name into the portal?

Three of our players put theirs in earlier this week within 24 hours of each other.

Oso and Omax haven't drawn enough NBA interest yet for them to declare.  Sure they may go through the motions, but I'm not sure either of them are ready.

Markusquette

Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 31, 2023, 01:44:15 PM
I think you're reading into it too much.  Why would anyone on the team still be waiting to put their name into the portal?

Three of our players put theirs in earlier this week within 24 hours of each other.

Oso and Omax haven't drawn enough NBA interest yet for them to declare.  Sure they may go through the motions, but I'm not sure either of them are ready.

It's not about the portal anymore. It's about several guys exploring pro options, which is still a possibility.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Markusquette on March 31, 2023, 01:48:23 PM
It's not about the portal anymore. It's about several guys exploring pro options, which is still a possibility.

I accounted for that.  A CHANCE at being drafted in the 2nd round is a terrible reason to declare for the draft.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 31, 2023, 01:28:47 PM
Maybe one or both leave but you're taking a massive leap from a relatively innocuous comment.

First time seeing his posts??

He does that on literally everything haha.

Tried saying "rumors are Bynum is playing" in Prov game against us. When literally all of Twitter and providence boards had pictures of Bynum in street clothes at shoot around
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Uncle Rico

Hunter Dickinson in the portal as a grad transfer.  Strong rumors he's GTown bound
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Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

Tha Hound

Where is this talk of Oso going pro coming from? I haven't seen anything indicating there's a chance he goes pro, no mock drafts for next year or anything. IMO he's one of the least likely to leave given his skillset..

I can see it for Omax. He at least was around 50 in that one recent mock from the Athletic.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Markusquette on March 31, 2023, 01:48:23 PM
It's not about the portal anymore. It's about several guys exploring pro options, which is still a possibility.

Yup, both might be back, both might be gone.

Shaka's comments just seem to be that he's preparing for at least someone who played minutes last year to be leaving.

I trust him either way. Just the reality of the situation.
VIOLENCE!

GoldenEagles03

Hunter Dickinson in the portal, Justin Moore rumored to follow.

Should that happen, Maryland or Georgetown are rumored to be the favorite.
VIOLENCE!

wisblue

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2023, 02:31:45 PM
Hunter Dickinson in the portal as a grad transfer.  Strong rumors he's GTown bound

Dickinson would not be a grad transfer. He is only 3 years out of high school. With the COVID year he should have two years of eligibility left.

Markusquette

Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 31, 2023, 01:58:15 PM
I accounted for that.  A CHANCE at being drafted in the 2nd round is a terrible reason to declare for the draft.

There are many more professional options besides the NBA. Who knows what these guys are thinking or what they want to do. I don't think Shaka would make a comment like that if he didn't expect a little more shakeup with the roster. We'll see.

Jay Bee

Quote from: wisblue on March 31, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
Dickinson would not be a grad transfer. He is only 3 years out of high school. With the COVID year he should have two years of eligibility left.

What does being only 3 years out of HS have to do with graduating from college? Do you not know how credits work?
The portal is NOT closed.

lawdog77

Quote from: wisblue on March 31, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
Dickinson would not be a grad transfer. He is only 3 years out of high school. With the COVID year he should have two years of eligibility left.
He can still declare for the NBA. Portal to see what $$ he can land. If no good options, go pro.

Jay Bee

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 31, 2023, 03:09:35 PM
He can still declare for the NBA. Portal to see what $$ he can land. If no good options, go pro.

Can't be offered NIL $ as an incentive in recruiting

But, that has nothing to do with wisblues crazy town post
The portal is NOT closed.

lawdog77

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 31, 2023, 03:15:31 PM
Can't be offered NIL $ as an incentive in recruiting

And people call me naive.

Nijel Pack on line 1.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 31, 2023, 03:15:31 PM
Can't be offered NIL $ as an incentive in recruiting

But, that has nothing to do with wisblues crazy town post

For sure.  Very unlikely players transferring will be offered NIL money from entities not tied to universities.  Just like kids choose the college, not the coaches
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Golden.Eagle

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 31, 2023, 03:09:35 PM
He can still declare for the NBA. Portal to see what $$ he can land. If no good options, go pro.

With Scheierman getting $500k - $600k from Creighton, I wonder what the standard is for a big-time transfer.  Seems to be more $$ than going to the G league or lower tier Euro.

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