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Skatastrophy

Just over 1000 kids in the transfer portal right now. That's approaching 25% of players. Absolutely bonkers.

CountryRoads

Quote from: DienerTime34 on March 30, 2023, 11:58:14 AM
Would OMax leaving be considered expected or unexpected?

I think the portal plans only change if either Kolek or Oso leave. Shaka would shoot for the stars in this scenario.

Kam (Chase/Tre), Stevie (Chase/Tre) and Omax (Joplin) have natural replacements already on the roster. I think Shaka just rolls with his guys if any of the other 3 starters left. Same deal if Joplin left.

MuggsyB

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 30, 2023, 12:21:31 PM
I think the portal plans only change if either Kolek or Oso leave. Shaka would shoot for the stars in this scenario.

Kam (Chase/Tre), Stevie (Chase/Tre) and Omax (Joplin) have natural replacements already on the roster. I think Shaka just rolls with his guys if any of the other 3 starters left. Same deal if Joplin left.

Marquette will be a dominant and must see team next year and Kolek and Oso aren't going anywhere.  It still absolutely sucks what happened in the tournament but we will be back. 

brewcity77

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 30, 2023, 12:06:16 PM
I'm not sure how anyone would think our offense would be better with a player like Kuath in, as opposed to someone in the Oso mold.

But Kur wasn't the problem. Is Oso a better offensive piece? Yes, because of his passing & floor stretching ability (not in terms of shooting but because his passing required teams to defend him away from the paint). But Kur was a monster finisher, offensively efficient, and a better interior backstop. Situationally, as a team there are times you will be better with a Kur/Sharp type on the floor than with an Oso because you play on both ends of the court.

I wrote this last summer:

Quote from: Cracked SidewalksIf the players improve at a rate comparable to the average sample (which included both the worst case and best case, so about average development) we can expect a 2.5% increase in eFG% in 2022-23. This makes sense as the two players that took the highest percentage of shots both had eFG% ratings under the team 52.2% average. While Marquette will be losing points, there is reason to believe they will be increasing their offensive efficiency.

To put into context what that hypothetical 2.5% increase would mean, Marquette's 52.1% ranked 77th in eFG% in 2021-22 but if they increased their team eFG% to 54.7% they would've ranked 21st in the category. And while the overall offense finished 66th, in 2021-22 every high-major team that ranked in the top-30 of eFG% was ranked in the top-41 of overall Adjusted Offensive Efficiency. That would mean an minimum expected 25-spot jump for Marquette in Adjusted Offensive Efficiency.

Tyler, Kam, O-Max, Oso, & Stevie all got better, and they used that improvement in place of the less efficient Lewis and Morsell. But there were still holes in terms of the team overall.

Honestly, if we had Sharp this year I think we're probably clinking glasses in Houston right now instead of discussing this on Scoop. It wouldn't be either/or with Oso, it would be someone who could provide a physical rim protecting and offensive rebounding presence when Oso wasn't on the floor. That would've been the difference against Michigan State.

Its DJOver

Saw no evidence that we reached out to either but Nimari Burnett to Michigan and that Princeton guy declared for the NBA.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Skip Intro

Curbelo in the portal again. 

St. Johns is going to be fascinating next year.  Pitino + NIL + portal is a recipe for success and/or insanity.

mugrad_89

Quote from: Skip Intro on March 30, 2023, 01:54:18 PM
Curbelo in the portal again. 

St. Johns is going to be fascinating next year.  Pitino + NIL + portal is a recipe for success and/or insanity.

Screwing up the chemistry of two teams wasn't enough for Curabello?

We R Final Four

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 30, 2023, 11:09:42 AM
Shaka made it very clear in that marathon multi-episode podcast with Gottlieb that he really focuses on culture when recruiting and that he's gotten really good at knowing what he's looking for. So, I trust that if Shaka picks someone up, it'll be a fit. I think Wrightsil is a great example of this. Even though he did not play, I think he was a big contributor to the team's culture and attitude.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that we're going to return that top nine. There's one that worries me, but every day that goes by without another entry into the portal is a good day as far as I'm concerned.
Was that on the doug gottlieb show or all ball podcast or somewhere else? Thanks

StillAWarrior

Quote from: We R Final Four on March 30, 2023, 01:59:52 PM
Was that on the doug gottlieb show or all ball podcast or somewhere else? Thanks

All Ball podcast. There were four parts in Jan/Feb.
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 30, 2023, 12:18:31 PM
Just over 1000 kids in the transfer portal right now. That's approaching 25% of players. Absolutely bonkers.
I could be completely wrong but haven't the numbers been about 30%-40% in the past?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 30, 2023, 12:18:31 PM
Just over 1000 kids in the transfer portal right now. That's approaching 25% of players. Absolutely bonkers.

With 13 scholarships per 363 teams that's 4719 D1 players, so not 25%. That doesn't even account for the dozens of walkons in the transfer portal.

All that being said, each of the last two seasons have seen around 1650 players enter the portal. That ends up being about 35% though again doesn't account for the walkons in the portal. It's a beautiful thing
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NickelDimer

Quote from: DienerTime34 on March 30, 2023, 11:58:14 AM
Would OMax leaving be considered expected or unexpected?
Based on those Shaka quotes it sounds like it would be unexpected to him
No Finish Line

wadesworld

Quote from: Its DJOver on March 30, 2023, 01:22:58 PM
Saw no evidence that we reached out to either but Nimari Burnett to Michigan and that Princeton guy declared for the NBA.

Dang.  Those were two guys I definitely would've liked to see at Marquette.

Bates wouldn't be the worst.  Otherwise find a sharpshooter.

cheebs09

Quote from: wadesworld on March 30, 2023, 02:40:09 PM
Dang.  Those were two guys I definitely would've liked to see at Marquette.

Bates wouldn't be the worst.  Otherwise find a sharpshooter.

Did they hire an agent or still maintain eligibility? A guy can declare but still potentially transfer.

brewcity77

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 30, 2023, 02:44:58 PM
Did they hire an agent or still maintain eligibility? A guy can declare but still potentially transfer.

The announcement from Jonathan Givony said Evbuomwan will forgo his remaining eligibility.

lostpassword

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2023, 02:13:38 PM
With 13 scholarships per 363 teams that's 4719 D1 players, so not 25%. That doesn't even account for the dozens of walkons in the transfer portal.

All that being said, each of the last two seasons have seen around 1650 players enter the portal. That ends up being about 35% though again doesn't account for the walkons in the portal. It's a beautiful thing

Wouldn't a decent chunk of that 4719 also have used up their eligibility and therefore wouldn't be considering the portal?  If so, a 4,000 denominator doesn't feel out of line.  That said, there could be a couple hundred non-scholarship entrants.  If I'm reading the numbers correctly, the past 2 years about 260 non-scholarship players entered.

I separately noticed that about 30ish% of portal entrants don't actually move to a different school.  I don't fault anyone for testing the waters and it seems a fair amount of that is in play.

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2023/2/21/media-center-2022-transfer-trends-released-for-divisions-i-and-ii.aspx
In 2022, 1,649 men's Division I basketball players were entered into the Transfer Portal, a slight decrease from 2021 (1,687). Eighty-four percent of these student-athletes were on athletics aid at their departing school.

Of all the Transfer Portal entrants in Division I men's basketball, 1,123 transferred to another NCAA school to receive athletics aid, a slight decrease from 2021 (1,198).

Scoop Snoop

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Been out all day and just read Brew's comments regarding Sharp. Brew's take on what might have been with Sharp in a MU uniform this year was exceptionally interesting.  The thought of a guy on our team that tall brings a smile to my face. One question is how would his presence affect Ben in both PT and position/responsibilities/role?
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Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: Its DJOver on March 30, 2023, 01:22:58 PM
Saw no evidence that we reached out to either but Nimari Burnett to Michigan and that Princeton guy declared for the NBA.

I think Burnett has to sit out, didn't he already use 1 transfer going to AL?

mugrad_89

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on March 30, 2023, 04:08:40 PM
I think Burnett has to sit out, didn't he already use 1 transfer going to AL?

This will be one of those cases that will show if the transfer rule/portal is a complete joke or not.

lawdog77

Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 30, 2023, 04:44:33 PM
This will be one of those cases that will show if the transfer rule/portal is a complete joke or not.
PTSD from the shooting incident?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 30, 2023, 04:44:33 PM
This will be one of those cases that will show if the transfer rule/portal is a complete joke or not.
Could be hardship case like his mom got a paper cut at work and he needs to move closer to home.  ;D



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PointWarrior

Silly season in badgerland - they claim they have "two silent commitments" from the portal.   And then they go on about the Hauser silent commits.  Fun stuff

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