What does Shaka do vs SJU?

[Skatastrophy]

I would be very surprised with anything higher than a 3 seed.

[Its DJOver]

Think it would be very difficult to get up to a 2.  We only have 5Q1 wins, and our max would be 7 with winning the BET, plus Wisconsin could very easily dip back to a Q3 loss.  Then you compare that to a team like Baylor with their 11 Q1 wins, 0 losses outside Q1, and their best wins are better than our best wins.  Sure  they might finish behind us in the AP poll, but resume wise, there's a lot of ground that needs to be made up in very little time.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You are assuming that the committee looks at only NET ranking and metrics. Its not true. If it were they wouldn't need a committee. There is a human element to the selection and the committee members vote. The committee has said there are mathematical elements they use, but it is still partly an art and not entirely a science.

The art in selection isn't in brining outside factors in to influence a decision (though I've repeatedly said that the selection committee members are human so outside factors like play a small role consciously or subconsciously). The art is in comparing resumes full of conflicting metrics and numbers.

These are the most important factors to seeding:
Overall records by quadrant (specifically Q1 wins and Q3/Q4 losses)
Away and neutral records by quadrant
Overall road and neutral records
Non-Conference strength of schedule
Overall strength of schedule

Here's how MU's resume compares to the current 2 seeds in these categories:
Texas is better in 4/5 categories
UCLA is better in 5/5 categories
Baylor is better in 4/5 categories
Arizona is better in 3/5 categories

The thing holding us back is our non-conference SOS and overall SOS. We played a really weak non-conference and the Big East isn't especially strong this year. To show you the difference:

(SOS/Non-Con SOS)
Marquette 82/196
Texas 21/143
Baylor 2/35
Arizona 72/17
UCLA 50/61

We're last in both categories. That's why we are trailing behind despite having better overall records than Texas and Baylor.

We will see, but if MU is ranked 5th or 6th with a big east title in their pocket, they will be a 2 seed.

Only if they get the help they need. You're getting caught up in the emotion of winning the BET. Would you say the same about Virginia? Virginia could win out from here, have the same overall record as MU and be the ACCT champion. UCLA and Arizona both have better overall records than MU and could finish 1 and 2 in the PAC 12. Baylor, Texas, and Kansas State could all win out until the B12T semis and then two of them could advance to the B12T championship. Tennessee could win out.

Seeding is never just about what you do. It is also about what the other teams around you do. MU is 2-3 spots out of a 2 seed at this point. Winning out won't cut it. They need to win out and have some teams in front of them lose, depending on who loses they may need them to lose multiple games.

[fjm]

Probably start Wrightsil on Senior night and see how much he can go?

(They are going to play normal minutes to win the game.)

Haha this was good.

Think they let him use the crutches? Or maybe put him on one of those little roll scooters?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Probably start Wrightsil on Senior night and see how much he can go?

(They are going to play normal minutes to win the game.)

Sultan will be so happy for him.

[wisblue]

I think its just math. If there is an 80% chance you will be a team, that's pretty good right?  But that means there is only about a 50% chance you will beat them three times.

Anyway if Dodds firmly believes something like that is the case, you can pretty much assume its not.

That is incorrect math. If you have an 80% chance of beating a team then, before you have played them once, the probability of winning all 3 is close to 50%.

But, as has been said, this only comes up when one team has won both previous games. Once those first two are in tha bank, the probability of winning the third is 80%

[The Sultan]

Sultan will be so happy for him.

Why would I be happy for him?

[The Sultan]

That is incorrect math. If you have an 80% chance of beating a team then, before you have played them once, the probability of winning all 3 is close to 50%.

But, as has been said, this only comes up when one team has won both previous games. Once those first two are in tha bank, the probability of winning the third is 80%

That's a good point.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Why would I be happy for him?

He's your guy.

Wait.  That's Ellis.  They look alike.

[MUDPT]

It also matters how much you beat the opponent the first two times. I would be fine with seeing DePaul or Butler, would be much more nervous against either Nova or Creighton.

[4everwarriors]

Who in the hell is Doods, hey?

[The Sultan]

He's your guy.

Wait.  That's Ellis.  They look alike.

Oh. You're still talking about that? For a second I actually thought you came up with something clever.

But instead you seem obsessed with my posts in the weirdest way.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Oh. You're still talking about that? For a second I actually thought you came up with something clever.

But instead you seem obsessed with my posts in the weirdest way.

Racist.

You wouldn't let something like that go, so why should I?

[The Equalizer]

Probably start Wrightsil on Senior night and see how much he can go?

(They are going to play normal minutes to win the game.)

I don't know what Wrightsil's future plans are, but given the timing of his injury he could apply for a medical hardship waiver and gain another year of eligibility--but only if he doesn't play the rest of this year. 

[The Sultan]

Racist.

You wouldn't let something like that go, so why should I?

You can do what you want. Carry on.

[cheebs09]

I don't know what Wrightsil's future plans are, but given the timing of his injury he could apply for a medical hardship waiver and gain another year of eligibility--but only if he doesn't play the rest of this year.

I think the medical redshirts are still a thing. I just don't think Wrightsill will be at MU unless we have more than 1 transfer out.

[Skatastrophy]

Who in the hell is Doods, hey?

I think Stevie is that dood

[StillAWarrior]

So question.  With BET #1 seed covered, do you play the starters for minimum minutes, not worried about SJU outcome or keep the streak going.  BET is a major grind for the players.

I'm going to resurrect my post from a somewhat similar thread last week:

Just. Win. Saturday.

Don't change a thing. Play to win. If we can build a huge lead, let the starters get an extra couple minutes of rest...just like you would any other game.

[panda]

Is it really hard to beat a bad team three times in a season?  That seems like a cliche that doesn't really have a basis in reality.

https://twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1102285710034432001?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A

[The Sultan]

https://twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1102285710034432001?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A

Thank you.

[warriorchick]

Whatever he thinks is best.

[wisblue]

The thing holding us back is our non-conference SOS and overall SOS. We played a really weak non-conference and the Big East isn't especially strong this year. To show you the difference:

(SOS/Non-Con SOS)
Marquette 82/196
Texas 21/143
Baylor 2/35
Arizona 72/17
UCLA 50/61

I don't disagree with your conclusions, but I wonder what source you are using for strength of schedule.

On the NCAA team sheets they list SOS for both NET and RPI.

On that MU's numbers are 48/134 NET and 87/217 RPI. Their NET overall SOS of 48 is slightly better than both UCLA (53) and Arizona (70). When I have heard the Committe spokesperson after the selection show, it seems like they talk about the NET SOS.

[Newsdreams]

We should try to score more points than them.

Chili knows ball

[Newsdreams]

I think Stevie is that dood

Per Shaka it is Chase

[muwarrior69]

Shaka the world.

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