Bama/Oats/Miller

[MuggsyB]

I know I start threads too much but this seems like an important one to separate from the college hoops thread.  I'm having a hard time believing there isn't going to be some fall out from this whole thing and before the NCAA tournament. 

[Uncle Rico]

I know I start threads too much but this seems like an important one to separate from the college hoops thread.  I'm having a hard time believing there isn't going to be some fall out from this whole thing and before the NCAA tournament.

Disagree. 

[goldeneagle91114]

Disagree.

Something is missing here. Dude brings a gun to the murderer, and his car prevents the victim from leaving. However, he meets with police multiple times and no charges were ever filed.

Would love to know what the DA knows.

[thebigjake]

This story can't be going away this easily, it's got to have more legs.  At the very least, there has to be a LOT more explaining on why Miller wasn't viewed as culpable or even involved.

[MU_B]

I expect minimum of 3 more comments, retractions, clarifications from Oats before the end of the week. 

[Scoop Snoop]

Something is missing here. Dude brings a gun to the murderer, and his car prevents the victim from leaving. However, he meets with police multiple times and no charges were ever filed.

Would love to know what the DA knows.

This story can't be going away this easily, it's got to have more legs.  At the very least, there has to be a LOT more explaining on why Miller wasn't viewed as culpable or even involved.

Agree with you two, but attorney/client privilege may prevent anything info to the public. I almost applied for MU Law School after graduating many decades ago and, with 20/20 hindsight, probably should have. One reason is that I totally get the concept that the law/court system simply isn't necessarily fair/right, according to citizens honestly questioning the rulings. Kudos to DA's who do what they can, but they cannot rewrite the laws that they have to deal with.

[MuggsyB]

I expect minimum of 3 more comments, retractions, clarifications from Oats before the end of the week.

You mean beyond:  "We can't control everything someone does after practice". 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Oats' initial response was reprehensible.  His follow-up damage control wasn't much better.

If Miller literally does anything else but bring a gun to the scene a young woman would still be alive and a young child would still have a mother. 

If Alabama had any balls Miller wouldn't play another minute for them but they don't. 

[lawdog77]

Since Oats knew for over a month, I am wondering what he told his boss then, right before they gave him a contract extension.

[Scoop Snoop]

Oats' initial response was reprehensible.  His follow-up damage control wasn't much better.

If Miller literally does anything else but bring a gun to the scene a young woman would still be alive and a young child would still have a mother. 

If Alabama had any balls Miller wouldn't play another minute for them but they don't.

Agree, especially your last sentence. I love bball but no way in Hell should it ever come first. Yet that seems to be Alabama's MO on sports. 

[MuggsyB]

Since Oats knew for over a month, I am wondering what he told his boss then, right before they gave him a contract extension.

Excellent point lawdog. 

[Uncle Rico]

Excellent point lawdog.

I'll go out on a limb and say the athletic department as whole was well aware of the circumstances

[mileskishnish72]

U. of Alabama has always been a totally classy institution.

[Uncle Rico]

U. of Alabama has always been a totally classy institution.

This, too

[BallBoy]

Something is missing here. Dude brings a gun to the murderer, and his car prevents the victim from leaving. However, he meets with police multiple times and no charges were ever filed.

Would love to know what the DA knows.

My understanding is Miller brought Miles Miles's gun. miles then gave it to Davis to shoot someone. At the time, two cars were blocking the street one was Miller's and the other car belonged to another teammate. It wasn't an intentional boxing someone in scenario.

I don't believe bringing someone their own property is crime. It would also be hard to show that Miller had any idea what was going to happen since he wasn't on the scene until he was asked to bring the gun.

All that said, Alabama should still suspend all players involved and Oats for a minimum of being stupid.

[#UnleashSean]

I'd say we should probably let the Justice system handle it eh?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I'd say we should probably let the Justice system handle it eh?

Yes, when has our justice system ever let us down? 

[Lennys Tap]

Yes, when has our justice system ever let us down?

You're not wrong, but what's the alternative to letting the justice system deal with it?

[Scoop Snoop]

You're not wrong, but what's the alternative to letting the justice system deal with it?

Bingo!

[ZiggysFryBoy]

There's nothing more that the justice system in Alabam would love to do than send a young colored boy to prison except this boy is leading them to basketball glory this year.  Roll Tide!

[Vander Blue Man Group]

You're not wrong, but what's the alternative to letting the justice system deal with it?

First, it's bizarre to me that there is nothing Miller can be charged with simply because he didn't own the gun and it was a hockey assist in terms of who it handed to.  He bears responsibility for someone's death. 

I'm speaking more towards the fact that Miller isn't even facing any consequences from Alabama.  He shouldn't play another minute for that team. 

[ATL MU Warrior]

My understanding is Miller brought Miles Miles's gun. miles then gave it to Davis to shoot someone. At the time, two cars were blocking the street one was Miller's and the other car belonged to another teammate. It wasn't an intentional boxing someone in scenario.

I don't believe bringing someone their own property is crime. It would also be hard to show that Miller had any idea what was going to happen since he wasn't on the scene until he was asked to bring the gun.

All that said, Alabama should still suspend all players involved and Oats for a minimum of being stupid.

If you are asked to bring someone a gun, you don't think you have any idea what's going to happen once you bring them the gun?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'd say we should probably let the Justice system handle it eh?

Any criminal matters? Absolutely. But the university has power and a responsibility here too. I'm not going to pretend to know all of the facts, but based on what is publicly available, Miller (and probably the other freshman too) shouldn't have been playing basketball these past few months.

[wadesworld]

Do you think Oats let Ray Lewis know his other players were involved when he turned to him for advice?  What a joke.

If the backlash is enough to get Miller (and others) suspended for the rest of the season, I wouldn't hate for Bama to be the 1 or 2 seed in MU's bracket.  But that seems unlikely given that it's Alabama.

[Jockey]

Oats is a dirtbag. Thank God, we got Shaka..