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Marquette vs.
Central Michigan
Date/Time: Nov 11, 2024 8:00pm
TV: FS1
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GoldenEagles03

Are we safe on the 3 line?

This result seems like it could yield some recency bias with the committee.
VIOLENCE!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2023, 12:02:25 PM
Are we safe on the 3 line?

This result seems like it could yield some recency bias with the committee.

Yes
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.


GoldenEagles03

VIOLENCE!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2023, 12:13:34 PM
Just saw this on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DavidWorlock/status/1633863058950082561?t=bhDkPJqPYCa-z8y0h0XVpg&s=19

Marquette in all likelihood is already seeded and locked in as a 3 based on this Tweet.

Not losing any sleep over it.  Even if they ended up on a 4-line.  Have to beat someone
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

ZiggysFryBoy

Baylor loses their QF game.  Does MU jump them?

GoldenEagles03

Baylor about to lose again.

Gimme a 2 seed.  They will fall to 22-10.

Marquette is 26-6 with a win over Baylor.

Idc about Quad wins.  Marquette has 4 more wins, 4 less losses, and a head to head drubbing. At some point wins and losses has to matter.
VIOLENCE!

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2023, 01:45:34 PM
Baylor about to lose again.

Gimme a 2 seed.  They will fall to 22-10.

Marquette is 26-6 with a win over Baylor.

Idc about Quad wins.  Marquette has 4 more wins, 4 less losses, and a head to head drubbing. At some point wins and losses has to matter.

Iowa State 3-0 vs Baylor.  Whoever said the Cyclones matchup well with the Bears was spot on.

tower912

Playing on Saturday probably equals a 2.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

BM1090

Quote from: tower912 on March 09, 2023, 01:54:23 PM
Playing on Saturday probably equals a 2.

Committee said they have already locked in the top 2 lines. So we're either a 2 right now or won't be getting one.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: BM1090 on March 09, 2023, 01:55:48 PM
Committee said they have already locked in the top 2 lines. So we're either a 2 right now or won't be getting one.

They still scrub the bracket, but it's really hard to change much.

tower912

Baylor losing today and MU playing Saturday may flip them.   So, win tomorrow and force the committee's hand.  Or give MU something to feel dissed about.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: tower912 on March 09, 2023, 02:07:24 PM
Baylor losing today and MU playing Saturday may flip them.   So, win tomorrow and force the committee's hand.  Or give MU something to feel dissed about.

Yeah I think we have to at least beat Uconn(or prov tho I doubt they win) to have a shot to pass Baylor.

I stand by it that if we do find a way to win the BET we will be a 2 as ive always said.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2023, 01:45:34 PM
Baylor about to lose again.

Gimme a 2 seed.  They will fall to 22-10.

Marquette is 26-6 with a win over Baylor.

Idc about Quad wins.  Marquette has 4 more wins, 4 less losses, and a head to head drubbing. At some point wins and losses has to matter.

Unfortunately, what Scoopers say doesn't matter to the selection committee. Hard to believe, dammit, but true.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

rocket surgeon

Quote from: BM1090 on March 09, 2023, 01:55:48 PM
Committee said they have already locked in the top 2 lines. So we're either a 2 right now or won't be getting one.

  that's what erasers are for
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

pbiflyer

Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2023, 05:15:16 PM
Unfortunately, what Scoopers say doesn't matter to the selection committee. Hard to believe, dammit, but true.

Ban dis guy!  ;D

Galway Eagle

AZ and TX win unfortunately. Baylor & K St lose so I'm still hopeful we're in contention but I'd guess we need at least the UConn game tomorrow to make the 2?
Maigh Eo for Sam

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I think with Arizona winning, the 2-seed door is slammed shut. But hey, might as well win the BET and test that theory.

Problem is, Gonzaga may have jumped us on the S-Curve.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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GoldenEagles03

Listening to this I think there is a very real scenario where Marquette jumps Baylor to the 2 line.

Kansas State and Baylor both lost already and Gonzaga's resume is complete.

https://youtu.be/gd8vKbAhM30
VIOLENCE!

DoctorV

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 09, 2023, 11:41:41 PM
I think with Arizona winning, the 2-seed door is slammed shut. But hey, might as well win the BET and test that theory.

Problem is, Gonzaga may have jumped us on the S-Curve.

Before the Gonzaga versus St Mary's game most of what we heard was that this late in the season one game won't change much.
Then the Zags walloped St Mary's and all of a sudden they jumped several spots in many minds to be in contention for a 2 seed.

Same could happen tonight. Go out, play a great game and beat UConn, whether soundly or just comfortably, and move up into the 2 seed line.
I know most don't agree with that, but that's how I've felt for a few weeks now.

Outside of some games saying close, Marquette has done nothing wrong since the reveal in the win/loss column. They've won every game to this point and won an outright BE Title.
That has to stand for something.

A win tonight would move Marquette to the 2 line imo.
I wouldn't be crushed if they got a 3, but I'd feel like the committee made a mistake and I hope the team would feel that way to, you know the chip on the shoulder angle.
I just prefer the 2 because, for the most part, the 15s are easier opponents than the 14s.

Does anyone have the statistical data on 15 over 2 versus 14 over 3 upsets?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

You can say it stands for something but that didn't make it so.

Gonzaga was always inches behind us so they didn't have to make a big jump. The difference between us is that they played their games before the cutoff. The selection committee has already seeded the top 4 seeds. They'll scrub again on Saturday but historically it's hard to move after the seeds are set.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


PGsHeroes32

This 2 vs 3 convo is very repetitive ha.

Lets just play tonights game before we revisit it.

Because right now we definitely are a 3
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

DoctorV

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 10, 2023, 07:01:08 AM
You can say it stands for something but that didn't make it so.

Gonzaga was always inches behind us so they didn't have to make a big jump. The difference between us is that they played their games before the cutoff. The selection committee has already seeded the top 4 seeds. They'll scrub again on Saturday but historically it's hard to move after the seeds are set.

It may not be an official criteria, but it does stand for something though.

How do I know?

Well because as most all of us do I watch every selection show, and the interviews by the committee chair after the reveal. Several times during those conversations the Chair has alluded to the 1 seeds and their resumes, including things like Quad 1 wins, scheduling a tough schedule, and winning their regular season and conference championships.



RushmoreAcademy

Quote from: DoctorV on March 10, 2023, 06:53:49 AM
Before the Gonzaga versus St Mary's game most of what we heard was that this late in the season one game won't change much.
Then the Zags walloped St Mary's and all of a sudden they jumped several spots in many minds to be in contention for a 2 seed.

Same could happen tonight. Go out, play a great game and beat UConn, whether soundly or just comfortably, and move up into the 2 seed line.
I know most don't agree with that, but that's how I've felt for a few weeks now.

Outside of some games saying close, Marquette has done nothing wrong since the reveal in the win/loss column. They've won every game to this point and won an outright BE Title.
That has to stand for something.

A win tonight would move Marquette to the 2 line imo.
I wouldn't be crushed if they got a 3, but I'd feel like the committee made a mistake and I hope the team would feel that way to, you know the chip on the shoulder angle.
I just prefer the 2 because, for the most part, the 15s are easier opponents than the 14s.

Does anyone have the statistical data on 15 over 2 versus 14 over 3 upsets?

I was wondering the same thing. I think there is at least some reasonably sizable difference but I could be wrong.
On top of that, what's the 2 v 7 vs the 3 v 6 percentages

Galway Eagle

Quote from: DoctorV on March 10, 2023, 06:53:49 AM
Before the Gonzaga versus St Mary's game most of what we heard was that this late in the season one game won't change much.
Then the Zags walloped St Mary's and all of a sudden they jumped several spots in many minds to be in contention for a 2 seed.

Same could happen tonight. Go out, play a great game and beat UConn, whether soundly or just comfortably, and move up into the 2 seed line.
I know most don't agree with that, but that's how I've felt for a few weeks now.

Outside of some games saying close, Marquette has done nothing wrong since the reveal in the win/loss column. They've won every game to this point and won an outright BE Title.
That has to stand for something.

A win tonight would move Marquette to the 2 line imo.
I wouldn't be crushed if they got a 3, but I'd feel like the committee made a mistake and I hope the team would feel that way to, you know the chip on the shoulder angle.
I just prefer the 2 because, for the most part, the 15s are easier opponents than the 14s.

Does anyone have the statistical data on 15 over 2 versus 14 over 3 upsets?

19 3 seed upsets to 9 2 seed upsets iirc Wikipedia has a whole page on ncaa upsets.
Maigh Eo for Sam

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