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Author Topic: Bracketology Thread 2023  (Read 80700 times)

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #575 on: March 05, 2023, 03:50:59 PM »
Can’t do that anymore. After 1970, both the NCAA and the university said no more tuning down NCAA bids. Period.

It ain’t going to happen but we have a nasty score to settle with Miami of Ohio. A really nasty one!
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #576 on: March 06, 2023, 06:54:00 AM »

LOL. It was 45 years ago. No one really cares.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #577 on: March 06, 2023, 07:08:24 AM »

LOL. It was 45 years ago. No one really cares.

Actually both were more than 50 years ago, but point taken.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #578 on: March 06, 2023, 07:09:10 AM »
On the latest bracketmatrix, Marquette 63 bracketologists have picked Marquette as a 3-seed and five have picked us as a 2. No one has picked us as a 4 or higher, which is a first.

On the composite chart, we are the first 3-seed, but our point total is just about equidistant between the first 4 and the last 2.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #579 on: March 06, 2023, 09:09:39 AM »
On the latest bracketmatrix, Marquette 63 bracketologists have picked Marquette as a 3-seed and five have picked us as a 2. No one has picked us as a 4 or higher, which is a first.

On the composite chart, we are the first 3-seed, but our point total is just about equidistant between the first 4 and the last 2.

Yeah I read this as nothing other than Solid 3 seed.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #580 on: March 06, 2023, 11:20:10 AM »
Yeah I read this as nothing other than Solid 3 seed.

I don't think it's possible for us to fall to a 4 seed at this point. The only situation where I think it would even be possible is if we lose on Thursday, Kansas State wins at least one game in the B12 tourney, and Gonzaga, Tennessee, and UConn all won their respective conference tournaments. Even then, I think we still end up as a three but don't want to test that theory.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #581 on: March 06, 2023, 03:39:05 PM »
Do we think there is any way Marquette falls off the 3 line?

Maybe up to the 2 if they win the Big East Tourney, but are we safe from the 4?
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #582 on: March 06, 2023, 03:42:29 PM »
Do we think there is any way Marquette falls off the 3 line?

Maybe up to the 2 if they win the Big East Tourney, but are we safe from the 4?

Literally answered in the post directly above yours.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #583 on: March 06, 2023, 03:46:43 PM »
Do we think there is any way Marquette falls off the 3 line?

Maybe up to the 2 if they win the Big East Tourney, but are we safe from the 4?

They can tweak, but the odds are by the time we are finishing our first game, the top-16 will already be set. At that point, I don't think they want to go back and reconfigure the work the Committee already did, especially looking at how they seem to have set the top-16 Preview on Monday/Tuesday and didn't factor results for most of that week in.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #584 on: March 06, 2023, 04:04:28 PM »
They can tweak, but the odds are by the time we are finishing our first game, the top-16 will already be set. At that point, I don't think they want to go back and reconfigure the work the Committee already did, especially looking at how they seem to have set the top-16 Preview on Monday/Tuesday and didn't factor results for most of that week in.

I got the impression from the videos on the NCAA site that they do continue to “scrub” the seed list up until they actually start placing teams in the bracket, which doesn’t happen until around Saturday night.

So, to use an example, if Baylor were number 8 on the seed list and MU were number 9, and MU won the BET, in a late scrubbing a committee member made make a motion to flip those positions and, if seconded, that motion would be discussed and voted on.

Because that scrubbing only allows teams to move one spot on the seed list at a time, moving up more than a spot or two is probably not very likely. But a team that follows up a regular season title with a conference tournament title might be a candidate for advancement.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #585 on: March 06, 2023, 04:17:13 PM »
Palm on CBS has us as a 2 in Des Moines, but with Iowa State as the 7?!?  If this could possibly be a thing it should be reason enough for MU to request Columbus.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #586 on: March 06, 2023, 04:19:58 PM »
I can't remember where I read it, but one of the committee members stated for seeding purposes, the committee considers the conference tournaments as "one" game, so its hard to move up or down a whole seeding line.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #587 on: March 06, 2023, 04:20:27 PM »
Palm on CBS has us as a 2 in Des Moines, but with Iowa State as the 7?!?  If this could possibly be a thing it should be reason enough for MU to request Columbus.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #588 on: March 06, 2023, 05:03:29 PM »
I can't remember where I read it, but one of the committee members stated for seeding purposes, the committee considers the conference tournaments as "one" game, so its hard to move up or down a whole seeding line.

That doesn’t sound quite right.

Maybe what was said is that any game in a conference tournament is treated the same as one game in the regular season.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #589 on: March 06, 2023, 06:29:14 PM »
I can't remember where I read it, but one of the committee members stated for seeding purposes, the committee considers the conference tournaments as "one" game, so its hard to move up or down a whole seeding line.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #590 on: March 06, 2023, 06:54:36 PM »
In your dreams, perhaps??
No more outlandish than saying the top 16 seeds are already determined by Wednesday or Thursday.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #591 on: March 06, 2023, 07:01:46 PM »
I can't remember where I read it, but one of the committee members stated for seeding purposes, the committee considers the conference tournaments as "one" game, so its hard to move up or down a whole seeding line.
I have no doubt you are right, but how the hell would that work? Which "one game" do they pick? Or is if you win the tourney it counts as a win, but if you go 3-1 it counts as a loss? Or is it the cumulative score of the games you played? 

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« Reply #592 on: March 06, 2023, 07:07:48 PM »
I have no doubt you are right, but how the hell would that work? Which "one game" do they pick? Or is if you win the tourney it counts as a win, but if you go 3-1 it counts as a loss? Or is it the cumulative score of the games you played?
i took it as they don't use those in adding or subtracting quadrant wins and losses.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #593 on: March 06, 2023, 07:17:44 PM »
Hah UCONN fans are saying that they expect a 2 if they win the BET.
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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #594 on: March 06, 2023, 07:25:14 PM »
Hah UCONN fans are saying that they expect a 2 if they win the BET.

Eh...that's not an awful take.  They probably have a better case than MU thanks to a better non-con schedule.  And their metrics are better than ours.

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« Reply #595 on: March 06, 2023, 07:52:33 PM »
Eh...that's not an awful take.  They probably have a better case than MU thanks to a better non-con schedule.  And their metrics are better than ours.

They’d get an extra Q1 win due to their first round matchup compared to MU.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #596 on: March 06, 2023, 07:53:31 PM »
Jerry Palm is not a serious person, at least not when it comes to bracketology

Five years to judge, a’ina?

Wait…he’s had that and more. You’re right, he sucks.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #597 on: March 06, 2023, 08:02:31 PM »
They’d get an extra Q1 win due to their first round matchup compared to MU.

I could see either Marquette or UConn getting a 2 seed if they win the BET.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #598 on: March 06, 2023, 08:17:43 PM »
They can tweak, but the odds are by the time we are finishing our first game, the top-16 will already be set. At that point, I don't think they want to go back and reconfigure the work the Committee already did, especially looking at how they seem to have set the top-16 Preview on Monday/Tuesday and didn't factor results for most of that week in.

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Re: Bracketology Thread 2023
« Reply #599 on: March 06, 2023, 09:55:06 PM »
Eh...that's not an awful take.  They probably have a better case than MU thanks to a better non-con schedule.  And their metrics are better than ours.

It's an awful take. They're not moving up two seed lines
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