2022-23 MU US News Ranking

[jesmu84]

https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history/lord-of-the-rankings

[MU82]

From the daily digest I received this afternoon from the WSJ:

7,713 -- The number of lower-income students that top U.S. universities enrolled between 2015 and 2021. A group of more than 125 high-performing schools set a goal several years ago to increase that number to 50,000 by 2025. A progress report found that the Covid-19 pandemic partly wiped out early gains.

[warriorchick]

From the daily digest I received this afternoon from the WSJ:

7,713 -- The number of lower-income students that top U.S. universities enrolled between 2015 and 2021. A group of more than 125 high-performing schools set a goal several years ago to increase that number to 50,000 by 2025. A progress report found that the Covid-19 pandemic partly wiped out early gains.

How are they defining lower-income?

[MU82]

How are they defining lower-income?

Those who received Pell Grants.

Also, I'm now realizing that WSJ graphic had poor wording. What they meant to say, and what the actual article said, was:

They added just 7,713 such students between 2015 and 2021, the initiative’s progress report found, with early gains partly wiped out during the Covid-19 pandemic, when overall enrollment declined nationwide.

That's a different thing. I thought 7,713 seemed ridiculously low.

[BrewCity83]

Looks like the Business School is carrying the day.

Marquette University’s College of Business Administration earned high marks for four undergraduate programs in the U.S. News & World Report 2022-23 Best Colleges Rankings:

Accounting — No. 32
Finance — No. 22
Real Estate — No. 15
Supply Chain Management — No. 18

[PorkysButthole]

Looks like the Business School is carrying the day.

Marquette University’s College of Business Administration earned high marks for four undergraduate programs in the U.S. News & World Report 2022-23 Best Colleges Rankings:

Accounting — No. 32
Finance — No. 22
Real Estate — No. 15
Supply Chain Management — No. 18

It's great that MU is maintaining their overall National ranking but these business school rankings seem highly suspect to Porky.  An undergraduate business school with 4 different majors ranked in the top 35 programs, 2 of which are Finance and Accounting, would have an overall undergraduate business school ranking that's way higher than 108, which is where MU's college of business ended up this year.  Porky is no data scientist nor mathematician, but that seems like a huge discrepancy.   What say you engineering and computer science types about this?

[jesmu84]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/16/columbia-whistleblower-us-news-rankings-michael-thaddeus

Shocker! Algorithms can be gamed

[RJax55]

It's great that MU is maintaining their overall National ranking but these business school rankings seem highly suspect to Porky.  An undergraduate business school with 4 different majors ranked in the top 35 programs, 2 of which are Finance and Accounting, would have an overall undergraduate business school ranking that's way higher than 108, which is where MU's college of business ended up this year.  Porky is no data scientist nor mathematician, but that seems like a huge discrepancy.   What say you engineering and computer science types about this?

US News undergraduate business school program rankings are based solely on peer assessment surveys.

[PorkysButthole]

US News undergraduate business school program rankings are based solely on peer assessment surveys.

Well that makes perfect sense but it also proves that those who think these rankings are largely BS, as Porky does, are correct.  It's mostly about prestige or at least perceived prestige instead of hard data about outcomes as they should be.  Some things never change.  Still, MU has held it's own pretty well given all of the schools that have moved up to the National University category in last 3-4 years.