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The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 01, 2022, 07:46:32 AM

Hey, me being wrong is hardly new. Just add it to the list.

I actually was pretty sure they had their sights set on Lance Leipold.  So I would have been wrong as well.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 01, 2022, 07:55:39 AM
I actually was pretty sure they had their sights set on Lance Leipold.  So I would have been wrong as well.

The alum that helped pay the check for Chryst to go away was definitely pushing for Leipold.
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Still can't spell Lincoln without two Ls.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84


The Sultan

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 03, 2022, 07:19:34 AM
Is USC out?


I would think.

Georgia, Michigan and Ohio State are in regardless of what happens today.

TCU is in if they win, but are they in with a close loss?  A blowout loss?

If the answer to either of those is no, I can see Clemson getting in if they beat UNC, and even Alabama getting the nod before you get back to USC.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 03, 2022, 07:19:34 AM
Is USC out?

Yes, but that was a good season for the men of Troy.  To be back in the mix that fast under Riley bodes well.  What doesn't bode well is, his defense was still trash.  One thing not to be talented, another thing to not be able to tackle or attempt tackling
Guster is for Lovers

Uncle Rico

Sounds like Prime Time is heading to Colorado.  Let's go Buffs
Guster is for Lovers

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 03, 2022, 07:29:51 AM

I would think.

Georgia, Michigan and Ohio State are in regardless of what happens today.

TCU is in if they win, but are they in with a close loss?  A blowout loss?

If the answer to either of those is no, I can see Clemson getting in if they beat UNC, and even Alabama getting the nod before you get back to USC.
I think you are right. This process is crazy. I heard on ESPN radio yesterday, TCU will be #3 even with a loss. They ran through the numbers (SOS, SOR, etc.) and it made sense.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 03, 2022, 08:47:34 AM
I think you are right. This process is crazy. I heard on ESPN radio yesterday, TCU will be #3 even with a loss. They ran through the numbers (SOS, SOR, etc.) and it made sense.

All that's left to do is seeding
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JWags85

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 03, 2022, 08:15:14 AM
Yes, but that was a good season for the men of Troy.  To be back in the mix that fast under Riley bodes well.  What doesn't bode well is, his defense was still trash.  One thing not to be talented, another thing to not be able to tackle or attempt tackling

Agreed.  They really seemed to lose life after Williams got hurt.  But this program is back at the top already and have another stud QB coming

The Sultan

TCU only losing once, in OT, to a team they already beat, should be good enough.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

BTW, unless they turn the ball over a ton, no one is beating Georgia.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 03, 2022, 06:21:27 PM
BTW, unless they turn the ball over a ton, no one is beating Georgia.
I don't think anyone can stop UGA. The rest of the field (Mich, TCU & OSU) is legit but UGA is in another class.

MUBurrow

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 03, 2022, 08:47:34 AM
I think you are right. This process is crazy. I heard on ESPN radio yesterday, TCU will be #3 even with a loss. They ran through the numbers (SOS, SOR, etc.) and it made sense.

I think that will also hold up if for no other reason to prevent a Michigan-OSU rematch in the semis.

MuggsyB

What are the chances Georgia doesn't win it?  Zero?

wadesworld

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 03, 2022, 08:50:06 PM
What are the chances Georgia doesn't win it?  Zero?

I'd say about 20%. But if I'm wrong then I was 80% off and Lenny will remind you how off I was. Risk I'm willing to take.

MU82

Clemson fans are upset that it took Dabo Sweeney so long to finally bench DJ Uiagalelei.

Even semi-competent QB play would have been enough for Clemson to beat a bad South Carolina team last week. Sweeney finally put 5-star freshman Cade Klubnik in yesterday, and Clemson overcame another bad Uiagalelei start to steamroll UNC.

Had Clemson beaten South Carolina, given all the other results of the past 2 weeks, they'd likely be in the playoffs.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on December 04, 2022, 08:05:20 AM
Clemson fans are upset that it took Dabo Sweeney so long to finally bench DJ Uiagalelei.

Even semi-competent QB play would have been enough for Clemson to beat a bad South Carolina team last week. Sweeney finally put 5-star freshman Cade Klubnik in yesterday, and Clemson overcame another bad Uiagalelei start to steamroll UNC.

Had Clemson beaten South Carolina, given all the other results of the past 2 weeks, they'd likely be in the playoffs.


South Carolina is hardly "bad." They're ranked #19 and finished 8-4. Shane Beemer is doing a really good job there.

DJ has not been great, but neither has their defense. Brent Venables leaving to coach Oklahoma actually made two teams worse.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

CountryRoads

It'll be interesting to see what the matchups are. I know this is very unpopular but I would seed them like this:

1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. TCU
4. USC

I am strongly against the idea that teams that play in a conference championship game have something to lose against teams that don't. It really makes zero sense to me. Teams that don't play in their conference championship should be locked into their ranking as an upper limit with only the possibility to get bumped down.

Though that doesn't seem like the reality and won't be the case. Considering that, I don't see how the committee doesn't match up OSU and Michigan at 2 and 3. Otherwise, the playoff matchups will likely be a huge dud.

Pakuni

Alabama isn't getting in with two losses, but Saban was right yesterday when he pointed out that if matched up against TCU or OSU, his team would be the favorite.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on December 04, 2022, 09:55:03 AM
Alabama isn't getting in with two losses, but Saban was right yesterday when he pointed out that if matched up against TCU or OSU, his team would be the favorite.
Alabama is 3-5-1 against the spread against Power Five opponents this year, so it's not like you can trust the Crimson Tide to actually match that Vegas hype.

Pakuni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 04, 2022, 10:30:22 AM
Alabama is 3-5-1 against the spread against Power Five opponents this year, so it's not like you can trust the Crimson Tide to actually match that Vegas hype.

I'm not sure that his point has anything to do with Bama's record ATS. I think the suggestion is that the consensus says Bama is a better team. He's right. Alabama would be the moneyline favorite over both TCU and OSU, and probably a double-digit spread favorite over TCU.
Bama made its bed with two losses, but Saban's not wrong.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: CountryRoads on December 04, 2022, 09:51:15 AM
It'll be interesting to see what the matchups are. I know this is very unpopular but I would seed them like this:

1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. TCU
4. USC

I am strongly against the idea that teams that play in a conference championship game have something to lose against teams that don't. It really makes zero sense to me. Teams that don't play in their conference championship should be locked into their ranking as an upper limit with only the possibility to get bumped down.

Though that doesn't seem like the reality and won't be the case. Considering that, I don't see how the committee doesn't match up OSU and Michigan at 2 and 3. Otherwise, the playoff matchups will likely be a huge dud.

Replace USC with OSU

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