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Author Topic: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws  (Read 5993 times)

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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2022, 05:23:27 PM »
While I will concede that young men and women tend to grow up quicker in the military than they do in civilian life,


My veteran family members would LOL at that suggestion.
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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2022, 05:31:21 PM »
The Supreme Court today blocked a Texas law that would ban large social media companies from removing posts based on the views they express. Writing for the dissent, Justice Alito said he was skeptical of the argument that the social media companies have editorial discretion protected by the First Amendment like that enjoyed by newspapers and other traditional publishers:

“It is not at all obvious how our existing precedents, which predate the age of the internet, should apply to large social media companies.”


So much for strict constructionism.

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« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2022, 05:33:25 PM »
Do they have potential liability for their failure to act? Civil suits and otherwise?  Its clearly desperate CYA

They're cops, so they ought to be covered by qualified immunity.

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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2022, 05:35:17 PM »

My veteran family members would LOL at that suggestion.

Based on?

They think a 20 year old active duty military member is less grown up than a 20 year old college kid?  Than a 20 year old that is not in college and still lives at home working whatever job? 

I went to college with a couple guys who were in their early 20s as freshmen, after service, and they weren't even comparable maturity wise to the 22-23 year old seniors I knew.

There are exceptions of course, but I don't think thats a silly notion, unless you reflexively think everything Lenny says is dumb.

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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2022, 05:36:12 PM »
So much for strict constructionism.

Several of them are strict constructionists ... as long as being so happens to align with their beliefs.
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-- Kimberly Rubio, whose daughter Lexi was among 19 schoolchildren slaughtered in Uvalde, Texas

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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2022, 05:59:53 PM »

My veteran family members would LOL at that suggestion.

As a vet myself, I strongly disagree with them (assuming you’re accurately stating their opinions).

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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2022, 06:07:22 PM »
Based on?

They think a 20 year old active duty military member is less grown up than a 20 year old college kid?  Than a 20 year old that is not in college and still lives at home working whatever job? 

I went to college with a couple guys who were in their early 20s as freshmen, after service, and they weren't even comparable maturity wise to the 22-23 year old seniors I knew.

There are exceptions of course, but I don't think thats a silly notion, unless you reflexively think everything Lenny says is dumb.

They would say that the idea that the military makes you more “grown up” is a little overrated. You probably can follow directions better but beyond that, they do a lot of the same dumb things that non military do.

That being said, I don’t think gun use should be restricted for 18-21 year olds just like I don’t think alcohol use should be restricted either.
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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2022, 06:08:36 PM »
As a vet myself, I strongly disagree with them (assuming you’re accurately stating their opinions).

I am. And it might just be an age thing.
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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2022, 06:36:41 PM »
Don't under-21 members of the military have the legal ability to drink on bases despite the universal 21-yr old drinking age?
no, not from my time at least 5 years ago. Bars and stores still carded and you had to be 21. On the idea of strict gun access, what about annual taxes on guns one owns or higher insurance rates for owners, similar to a smoker?

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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2022, 06:55:58 PM »
23 people shot and killed in Philly and Chicago over the weekend. 

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« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2022, 07:01:58 PM »
23 people shot and killed in Philly and Chicago over the weekend. 

Thanks!
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« Reply #61 on: May 31, 2022, 07:10:21 PM »
Thanks!

No problem.  The preliminary count is 156 dead across the country.

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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #62 on: May 31, 2022, 07:14:19 PM »
23 people shot and killed in Philly and Chicago over the weekend.

Yay guns.

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« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2022, 07:38:34 PM »
This may be off topic but has anyone  ever noticed how many docs Netflix has on serial killers and murderers?   We have a lot of probs.
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« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2022, 07:39:33 PM »
This may be off topic but has anyone  ever noticed how docs Netflix has on serial killers and murderers?   We have a lot of probs.

Because people watch them or because they have so much source material?
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« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2022, 07:41:28 PM »
Because people watch them or because they have so much source material?

I don't know but it's a bit jarring.  I mean there are countless programs  about these scumbags.

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« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2022, 07:50:20 PM »
So Canada, not having America’s problems, is working on solutions to America’s problems, when America won’t even do anything about America’s problems? Always good to be reactive rather than proactive I guess. But in reality, I’d love for America to be reactive. We won’t even be that.

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« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2022, 07:56:09 PM »
Y'all got da House and da Senate. Go for it with no excuses, aina?
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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2022, 07:59:20 PM »
Y'all got da House and da Senate. Go for it with no excuses, aina?

Lol
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« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2022, 07:59:43 PM »
Y'all got da House and da Senate. Go for it with no excuses, aina?


Y’all?  Who here is a Senator or Representative?
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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2022, 08:09:33 PM »
You da people, hey?
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Re: In response to U.S. gun carnage, Canada to enact tough laws
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2022, 08:39:34 PM »
I don't know but it's a bit jarring.  I mean there are countless programs  about these scumbags.

If you find that jarring, you should go read some of the pulp true crime novels and magazines from the 40s and 50s.
Which is to say, our fascination with killers and crime as entertainment is nothing new.

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« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2022, 08:59:46 PM »
If you find that jarring, you should go read some of the pulp true crime novels and magazines from the 40s and 50s.
Which is to say, our fascination with killers and crime as entertainment is nothing new.

I think there's a distinction between fiction and true assheads/scumsuckers. 

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« Reply #73 on: May 31, 2022, 09:06:02 PM »
I think there's a distinction between fiction and true assheads/scumsuckers.

Who said anything about fiction?

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« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2022, 09:45:57 PM »
I think there's a distinction between fiction and true assheads/scumsuckers.

People went NUTS for the Black Dahlia murder in LA in the late 40s.  The media and public fervor for it was insatiable for awhile.

In Cold Blood helped make Truman Capote a superstar.

Its far from anything new.  The public's interest in the macabre goes back to the days of public executions, aka thousands of years

 

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