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Merit Matters

Mass shooting in Chicago on Chicago and State near Holy Name Cathedral, 6 people shot. Probably won't make the news so posting it here for those interested.
All Lives Matter

tower912

All the other shootings have.  Guns are the common denominator.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Nah, people are the one constant, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Chicago has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. No rifles have been reported. Could have just as easily been a nut driving thru folks watchin' a Christmas parade, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

#6
He was the outlier.  I hope he is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.   Can't have a mass shooting without guns.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Merit Matters

Quote from: tower912 on May 20, 2022, 06:05:23 AM
He was the outlier.  I hope he is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.   Can't have a mass shooting without guns.
Well guns aren't going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.
All Lives Matter

wadesworld

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 06:19:27 AM
Well guns aren't going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

Like...what?

tower912

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 06:19:27 AM
Well guns aren't going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

I would like to do something about greed and narcissism, too.   Sadly, gun worship, money worship, and self worship appear to be the pillars of American society.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 06:19:27 AM
Well guns aren't going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

People have been concerned about this for decades, and people like you were like "it's the people not the guns."

And now it's "well, there are too many guns.  What can you do?"

So moronic.  More controls should have been put in place.  That can still happen.  But I guess you are advocating for more people getting needlessly killed because of the inaction that has already occurred.

And BTW, it's all over the news.  So your initial dumb statement is wrong too.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Merit Matters

Quote from: Clarissa on May 20, 2022, 06:26:59 AM
People have been concerned about this for decades, and people like you were like "it's the people not the guns."

And now it's "well, there are too many guns.  What can you do?"

So moronic.  More controls should have been put in place.  That can still happen.  But I guess you are advocating for more people getting needlessly killed because of the inaction that has already occurred.

And BTW, it's all over the news.  So your initial dumb statement is wrong too.
Great, since it's all over the news, we look forward to Biden's visit. I'm sure he will be here soon just like he was in Waukesha.
All Lives Matter

Pakuni

Imagine the death toll had the shooter been armed with a knife. The horror.

The "Chicago has strict gun laws" is one of the dumbest arguments ever. One may ne surprised to learn that guns are trafficked into the city from the suburbs and surrounding states. The problem isn't the ineffectiveness of gun control in Chicago, it's the lack of gun control elsewhere.

And, Chicos needs a new dog whistle.

Pakuni

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 07:26:31 AM
Great, since it's all over the news, we look forward to Biden's visit. I'm sure he will be here soon just like he was in Waukesha.

Don't you ever get tired of constantly trying to make yourself feel a victim?

The Sultan

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 07:26:31 AM
Great, since it's all over the news, we look forward to Biden's visit. I'm sure he will be here soon just like he was in Waukesha.

Hey look at Chicos simultaneously shifting the goalposts AND building a straw man! 

There have been a lot of dishonest posters here over the years, but YOU my man are the absolute pinnacle.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Clarissa on May 20, 2022, 06:26:59 AM
People have been concerned about this for decades, and people like you were like "it's the people not the guns."

And now it's "well, there are too many guns.  What can you do?"

So moronic.  More controls should have been put in place.  That can still happen.  But I guess you are advocating for more people getting needlessly killed because of the inaction that has already occurred.

And BTW, it's all over the news.  So your initial dumb statement is wrong too.

  do you honestly think most of these shootings were their first rodeos?  do you honestly think most of these perps just happened to have their first guns and have clean rap sheets?  when they let these scumbags out on NO CASH BAIL, do you honestly think the first thing they do is apply to go to finish their GED's or community college and apply for a legit job, go pick up their kid(s) and take them to the zoo and for an ice cream?  do they go into drug/alcohol rehab and volunteer at st vinnie de pauls?  until they start putting away the bad people, bad things are going to happen. 

    if you liberals were really serious about GUN CONTROL, whenever one of these felons are caught with a gun, it would be automatic life in prison, no parole, no bail, no plea deals...problem solved.  but you would rather take guns away from ALL people including those who've never even got a parking ticket.  it has nothing to do with how many bullets the gun has or how scary the gun looks.  these gang bangers carry these "scary guns" around to intimidate just as they all have pit bulls.  why not a labra-doodle or a corky or something

 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Pakuni

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 06:19:27 AM
Well guns aren't going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819580358

Merit Matters

Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can't have too much truth up in here.
All Lives Matter

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 20, 2022, 07:37:28 AM
  do you honestly think most of these shootings were their first rodeos?  do you honestly think most of these perps just happened to have their first guns and have clean rap sheets?  when they let these scumbags out on NO CASH BAIL, do you honestly think the first thing they do is apply to go to finish their GED's or community college and apply for a legit job, go pick up their kid(s) and take them to the zoo and for an ice cream?  do they go into drug/alcohol rehab and volunteer at st vinnie de pauls?  until they start putting away the bad people, bad things are going to happen. 

    if you liberals were really serious about GUN CONTROL, whenever one of these felons are caught with a gun, it would be automatic life in prison, no parole, no bail, no plea deals...problem solved.  but you would rather take guns away from ALL people including those who've never even got a parking ticket.  it has nothing to do with how many bullets the gun has or how scary the gun looks.  these gang bangers carry these "scary guns" around to intimidate just as they all have pit bulls.  why not a labra-doodle or a corky or something


Do you have any studies that show that a significant number of shootings are committed by those who have been convicted of a prior felony?  Or even arrested for a felony and are out on bail?

Or is this yet another assertion that you have been told to believe?

I have said here many times that prisons should be prioritized for those convicted of violent acts. So I agree with you there. But unfortunately that's not the case.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 07:47:03 AM
Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can't have too much truth up in here.

Nice hit and run

The Sultan

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 07:47:03 AM
Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can't have too much truth up in here.

You start the thread with a lie. It is quickly shown to be a lie. And now you want to lock the thread up because "there is too much truth in here?"

Amazingly stupid even for you.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 20, 2022, 07:37:28 AM
  do you honestly think most of these shootings were their first rodeos?  do you honestly think most of these perps just happened to have their first guns and have clean rap sheets?  when they let these scumbags out on NO CASH BAIL, do you honestly think the first thing they do is apply to go to finish their GED's or community college and apply for a legit job, go pick up their kid(s) and take them to the zoo and for an ice cream?  do they go into drug/alcohol rehab and volunteer at st vinnie de pauls?  until they start putting away the bad people, bad things are going to happen. 

   if you liberals were really serious about GUN CONTROL, whenever one of these felons are caught with a gun, it would be automatic life in prison, no parole, no bail, no plea deals...problem solved.  but you would rather take guns away from ALL people including those who've never even got a parking ticket.  it has nothing to do with how many bullets the gun has or how scary the gun looks.  these gang bangers carry these "scary guns" around to intimidate just as they all have pit bulls.  why not a labra-doodle or a corky or something



Peak idiocy.  We've already done this and it doesn't work.  But that's what I expect from you.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Clarissa on May 20, 2022, 07:47:51 AM

Do you have any studies that show that a significant number of shootings are committed by those who have been convicted of a prior felony?  Or even arrested for a felony and are out on bail?

Or is this yet another assertion that you have been told to believe?

I have said here many times that prisons should be prioritized for those convicted of violent acts. So I agree with you there. But unfortunately that's not the case.

He has none of those things, it's easier for him to just use the dog whistles that he has been taught. 

wadesworld

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 07:26:31 AM
Great, since it's all over the news, we look forward to Biden's visit. I'm sure he will be here soon just like he was in Waukesha.

If the President needed to make it to the city of every mass shooting every time one happened, that'd be the only duties a President would serve.

It's not like this in any other developed country in the world because they actually have common sense gun laws.  But guns aren't the issue.

4everwarriors

Quote from: wadesworld on May 20, 2022, 06:23:16 AM
Like...what?



Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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