Mass Shooting in Chicago

[Merit Matters]

Mass shooting in Chicago on Chicago and State near Holy Name Cathedral, 6 people shot. Probably won’t make the news so posting it here for those interested.

[tower912]

All the other shootings have.  Guns are the common denominator.

[4everwarriors]

Nah, people are the one constant, hey?

[4everwarriors]

Any dentists involved, hey?

[tower912]

Angry people.   With guns.

[4everwarriors]

Chicago has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. No rifles have been reported. Could have just as easily been a nut driving thru folks watchin' a Christmas parade, aina?

[tower912]

He was the outlier.  I hope he is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.   Can't have a mass shooting without guns.

[Merit Matters]

He was the outlier.  I hope he is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.   Can't have a mass shooting without guns.

Well guns aren’t going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

[wadesworld]

Well guns aren’t going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

Like…what?

[tower912]

Well guns aren’t going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

I would like to do something about greed and narcissism, too.   Sadly, gun worship, money worship, and self worship appear to be the pillars of American society.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Well guns aren’t going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

People have been concerned about this for decades, and people like you were like "it's the people not the guns."

And now it's "well, there are too many guns.  What can you do?"

So moronic.  More controls should have been put in place.  That can still happen.  But I guess you are advocating for more people getting needlessly killed because of the inaction that has already occurred.

And BTW, it's all over the news.  So your initial dumb statement is wrong too.

[Merit Matters]

People have been concerned about this for decades, and people like you were like "it's the people not the guns."

And now it's "well, there are too many guns.  What can you do?"

So moronic.  More controls should have been put in place.  That can still happen.  But I guess you are advocating for more people getting needlessly killed because of the inaction that has already occurred.

And BTW, it's all over the news.  So your initial dumb statement is wrong too.

Great, since it’s all over the news, we look forward to Biden’s visit. I’m sure he will be here soon just like he was in Waukesha.

[Pakuni]

Imagine the death toll had the shooter been armed with a knife. The horror.

The "Chicago has strict gun laws" is one of the dumbest arguments ever. One may ne surprised to learn that guns are trafficked into the city from the suburbs and surrounding states. The problem isn't the ineffectiveness of gun control in Chicago, it's the lack of gun control elsewhere.

And, Chicos needs a new dog whistle.

[Pakuni]

Great, since it’s all over the news, we look forward to Biden’s visit. I’m sure he will be here soon just like he was in Waukesha.

Don't you ever get tired of constantly trying to make yourself feel a victim?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Great, since it’s all over the news, we look forward to Biden’s visit. I’m sure he will be here soon just like he was in Waukesha.

Hey look at Chicos simultaneously shifting the goalposts AND building a straw man! 

There have been a lot of dishonest posters here over the years, but YOU my man are the absolute pinnacle.

[rocket surgeon]

People have been concerned about this for decades, and people like you were like "it's the people not the guns."

And now it's "well, there are too many guns.  What can you do?"

So moronic.  More controls should have been put in place.  That can still happen.  But I guess you are advocating for more people getting needlessly killed because of the inaction that has already occurred.

And BTW, it's all over the news.  So your initial dumb statement is wrong too.

  do you honestly think most of these shootings were their first rodeos?  do you honestly think most of these perps just happened to have their first guns and have clean rap sheets?  when they let these scumbags out on NO CASH BAIL, do you honestly think the first thing they do is apply to go to finish their GED's or community college and apply for a legit job, go pick up their kid(s) and take them to the zoo and for an ice cream?  do they go into drug/alcohol rehab and volunteer at st vinnie de pauls?  until they start putting away the bad people, bad things are going to happen. 

    if you liberals were really serious about GUN CONTROL, whenever one of these felons are caught with a gun, it would be automatic life in prison, no parole, no bail, no plea deals...problem solved.  but you would rather take guns away from ALL people including those who've never even got a parking ticket.  it has nothing to do with how many bullets the gun has or how scary the gun looks.  these gang bangers carry these "scary guns" around to intimidate just as they all have pit bulls.  why not a labra-doodle or a corky or something

 

[Pakuni]

Well guns aren’t going away no matter how many times people yell at the sky or on random message boards so you better start thinking of some other solutions.

No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819580358

[Merit Matters]

Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can’t have too much truth up in here.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

  do you honestly think most of these shootings were their first rodeos?  do you honestly think most of these perps just happened to have their first guns and have clean rap sheets?  when they let these scumbags out on NO CASH BAIL, do you honestly think the first thing they do is apply to go to finish their GED's or community college and apply for a legit job, go pick up their kid(s) and take them to the zoo and for an ice cream?  do they go into drug/alcohol rehab and volunteer at st vinnie de pauls?  until they start putting away the bad people, bad things are going to happen. 

    if you liberals were really serious about GUN CONTROL, whenever one of these felons are caught with a gun, it would be automatic life in prison, no parole, no bail, no plea deals...problem solved.  but you would rather take guns away from ALL people including those who've never even got a parking ticket.  it has nothing to do with how many bullets the gun has or how scary the gun looks.  these gang bangers carry these "scary guns" around to intimidate just as they all have pit bulls.  why not a labra-doodle or a corky or something

Do you have any studies that show that a significant number of shootings are committed by those who have been convicted of a prior felony?  Or even arrested for a felony and are out on bail?

Or is this yet another assertion that you have been told to believe?

I have said here many times that prisons should be prioritized for those convicted of violent acts. So I agree with you there. But unfortunately that’s not the case.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can’t have too much truth up in here.

Nice hit and run

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can’t have too much truth up in here.

You start the thread with a lie. It is quickly shown to be a lie. And now you want to lock the thread up because “there is too much truth in here?”

Amazingly stupid even for you.

[Hards Alumni]

  do you honestly think most of these shootings were their first rodeos?  do you honestly think most of these perps just happened to have their first guns and have clean rap sheets?  when they let these scumbags out on NO CASH BAIL, do you honestly think the first thing they do is apply to go to finish their GED's or community college and apply for a legit job, go pick up their kid(s) and take them to the zoo and for an ice cream?  do they go into drug/alcohol rehab and volunteer at st vinnie de pauls?  until they start putting away the bad people, bad things are going to happen. 

    if you liberals were really serious about GUN CONTROL, whenever one of these felons are caught with a gun, it would be automatic life in prison, no parole, no bail, no plea deals...problem solved.  but you would rather take guns away from ALL people including those who've never even got a parking ticket.  it has nothing to do with how many bullets the gun has or how scary the gun looks.  these gang bangers carry these "scary guns" around to intimidate just as they all have pit bulls.  why not a labra-doodle or a corky or something

 

Peak idiocy.  We've already done this and it doesn't work.  But that's what I expect from you.

[Hards Alumni]

Do you have any studies that show that a significant number of shootings are committed by those who have been convicted of a prior felony?  Or even arrested for a felony and are out on bail?

Or is this yet another assertion that you have been told to believe?

I have said here many times that prisons should be prioritized for those convicted of violent acts. So I agree with you there. But unfortunately that’s not the case.

He has none of those things, it's easier for him to just use the dog whistles that he has been taught. 

[wadesworld]

Great, since it’s all over the news, we look forward to Biden’s visit. I’m sure he will be here soon just like he was in Waukesha.

If the President needed to make it to the city of every mass shooting every time one happened, that'd be the only duties a President would serve.

It's not like this in any other developed country in the world because they actually have common sense gun laws.  But guns aren't the issue.

[4everwarriors]

Like…what?

Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

[wadesworld]

Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

Wait.  Why do we have any illegal drugs?  I've never seen a drug inject itself into a human being.  Drugs don't kill people, people kill people, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

The kids that perpetrated the Columbine massacre had traditional family values and no priors.  They did have easy access to guns.

Next

[jesmu84]

Wait.  Why do we have any illegal drugs?  I've never seen a drug inject itself into a human being.  Drugs don't kill people, people kill people, hey?

What do drugs have to do with most mass shootings? Was there drugs involved in buffalo/sandy hook/aurora/etc?

What do welfare programs have to do with most mass shootings?

[Pakuni]

Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can’t have too much truth up in here.

Could you please cite some specific "soft on crime" policies enacted by this mayor that has led to shootings? And back it up with data or any evidence?
(Psst ... by the way, shootings and homicides are down in Chicago this year).

[Uncle Rico]

I blame woke mobs, cancel culture, 2000 mules, CRT, mass replacement and illegal immigration

[rocket surgeon]

Do you have any studies that show that a significant number of shootings are committed by those who have been convicted of a prior felony?  Or even arrested for a felony and are out on bail?

Or is this yet another assertion that you have been told to believe?

I have said here many times that prisons should be prioritized for those convicted of violent acts. So I agree with you there. But unfortunately that’s not the case.

They are all there sully, go look them up yourself. That way you can pick and choose your “reliable sources” and go with it. You know recidivism is a big big problem   These aren’t all car jacking virgins. Speaking of which, the crimes being committed are by younger and younger thugs. Juvi crime ain’t throwing eggs anymore. Juvi’s committing violent crimes should be prosecuted as adult crimes.  These “children” see nothing happens when they do bad things…that why we keep getting bad things happening

[MU82]

I blame woke mobs, cancel culture, 2000 mules, CRT, mass replacement and illegal immigration

You forgot antifa and Soros.

[Hards Alumni]

Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

No.  Authority oversteps.  Drugs are awesome and should be legalized, in general.  Society over prosecutes 'criminals' already.  There is plenty of respect for the fellow man.  Government 'give aways' should be increased and be more accessible where there is need so people don't turn to crime.  How would you restructure mental health laws.  We already celebrate 'heros' a ton, and hero worship is disgusting... people should do the right thing and not expect a god damn parade and a pat on the back.  Hard to have self respect when the system is rigged against the poor.  People don't commit crimes for fun, they commit them because they are desperate.

[Pakuni]

Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

The Buffalo shooter came from a solidly upper, middle class, intact family. He had no history of drug use, no criminal history, didn't receive government hand outs, etc. The same could be said for many, if not a majority, of mass shooters.
That said, there's probably some good in here. Now, how do you propose to make this all happen?
I mean, on the one hand, you want to return to the "traditional family structure." But you also promote a criminal justice system that has incarcerated young Black fathers at five times the rate of their white peers, and gives them sentences 20% longer for the same offense.
These two positions conflict, don't they?

If you really want to fix the problem, let's crack down on males. Men are responsible for the vast majority of violent crime in this country, including 98% of mass shootings.

[Hards Alumni]

I blame woke mobs, cancel culture, 2000 mules, CRT, mass replacement and illegal immigration

The caravan from south of the border should be getting ready in the next month or two

[Uncle Rico]

You forgot antifa and Soros.

And Disney making kids transgender with their movies probably make them steal guns to commit crimes.  I’d blame Disney a lot more than guns.  If these kids had more access to guns instead of seeing a Disney film with a gay character, we’d have less gun crime but Biden confiscated all the guns because he hates traditional families

[MU82]

If we stop letting "others" replace white males, all problems will be solved.

[rocket surgeon]

The kids that perpetrated the Columbine massacre had traditional family values and no priors.  They did have easy access to guns.

Next

  they did?  come on reeko- that smells like a big zero for the zero

  the trench coat mafia?  yeah, that must have been another name for their chess club eyn'a?

they built explosives for over a year and mommy and daddy didn't know anything about this?  what did they get for their birthdays?  bomb making for dummies?

they concluded harris was a psychopath-kinda hard not to notice at the dinner table?

[Uncle Rico]

  they did?  come on reeko- that smells like a big zero for the zero

  the trench coat mafia?  yeah, that must have been another name for their chess club eyn'a?

they built explosives for over a year and mommy and daddy didn't know anything about this?  what did they get for their birthdays?  bomb making for dummies?

they concluded harris was a psychopath-kinda hard not to notice at the dinner table?

He was raised in a traditional family setting.

[rocket surgeon]

Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

great post doc, but all those things are inconvenient, racist, misogynist and make me feel really really uncomfortable and not safe

  speaking of snowflakes, we are trying to argue with a whole nest of them here

[Uncle Rico]

great post doc, but all those things are inconvenient, racist, misogynist and make me feel really really uncomfortable and not safe

  speaking of snowflakes, we are trying to argue with a whole nest of them here

You’re terrified of Joy Behar, frosty

[Hards Alumni]

You’re terrified of Joy Behar, frosty

murdered by words

[Pakuni]

  they did?  come on reeko- that smells like a big zero for the zero

  the trench coat mafia?  yeah, that must have been another name for their chess club eyn'a?

they built explosives for over a year and mommy and daddy didn't know anything about this?  what did they get for their birthdays?  bomb making for dummies?

they concluded harris was a psychopath-kinda hard not to notice at the dinner table?

You have nearly everything wrong.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/trenchcoat-mafia-columbine-myths

[MuggsyB]

Perhaps we should look at the Singaporean system?

[Hards Alumni]

Perhaps we should look at the Singaporean system?

We should look down upon it.

Violence doesn't solve violence.  I'd like to think society has come a long way in the last couple thousand years.

[Pakuni]

Perhaps we should look at the Singaporean system?

Perhaps we should look at the Australian system?

[Uncle Rico]

Perhaps we should look at the Australian system?

Perhaps we should look at the Soviet gulag system?

[MuggsyB]

We should look down upon it.

Violence doesn't solve violence.  I'd like to think society has come a long way in the last couple thousand years.

How do you define "solve"? 

[wadesworld]

You have nearly everything wrong.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/trenchcoat-mafia-columbine-myths

Shocking.

[MU82]

Perhaps we should look at the Soviet gulag system?

What we really need a leader like this guy:



He and the rest of the very fine people would keep the Jews from replacing us, that's for sure.

Also ... there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in ONE afternoon! TWO coats!

[lawdog77]

Perhaps we should look at the Australian system?

Or Canada, or Switzerland, or basically every other first world country. And then actually enforce the laws.

[Hards Alumni]

How do you define "solve"?

The same way anyone would. 

You ever heard the saying, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"?  or this gem?

Matthew (5:38-41)  Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can’t have too much truth up in here.

Racist a-hole says what?

[rocket surgeon]

You have nearly everything wrong.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/trenchcoat-mafia-columbine-myths

what a surprise...you liberals have been in charge of most of the major cities for a long time and they keep on getting worse.  as long as we have you guys calling the shots(no pun intended) nothing is going to improve. 

   i see a few references to hitler and all of that same ole bullschiff but if you want to talk about dictator stuff, look no further than the thoughts of "disinformation" committees lock downs, mandates for this and that...i guess when it comes from your guys, it's all good...have another ice cream

[Hards Alumni]

what a surprise...you liberals have been in charge of most of the major cities for a long time and they keep on getting worse.  as long as we have you guys calling the shots(no pun intended) nothing is going to improve. 

   i see a few references to hitler and all of that same ole bullschiff but if you want to talk about dictator stuff, look no further than the thoughts of "disinformation" committees lock downs, mandates for this and that...i guess when it comes from your guys, it's all good...have another ice cream

Anything else left in your bag, or just more 'bullschiff'?

It must be very painful to be proven wrong every time you post.  If it were me, I'd probably find something more worth your time and at your intelligence level.

Got an address I can send you a coloring book and a box of crayons?  Remember, just because the crayons look like candy doesn't mean you SHOULD eat them.

[rocky_warrior]

Haven't read the whole thing, but based on rocket's "LIBERALS!  HITLER!" post, I'm gonna give him credit for the lock.