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wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2022, 07:59:02 AM


Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

Wait.  Why do we have any illegal drugs?  I've never seen a drug inject itself into a human being.  Drugs don't kill people, people kill people, hey?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2022, 07:59:02 AM


Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

The kids that perpetrated the Columbine massacre had traditional family values and no priors.  They did have easy access to guns.

Next
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jesmu84

Quote from: wadesworld on May 20, 2022, 08:03:28 AM
Wait.  Why do we have any illegal drugs?  I've never seen a drug inject itself into a human being.  Drugs don't kill people, people kill people, hey?

What do drugs have to do with most mass shootings? Was there drugs involved in buffalo/sandy hook/aurora/etc?

What do welfare programs have to do with most mass shootings?

Pakuni

Quote from: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 07:47:03 AM
Ok, people know about the shooting now. Just realize this happens in Chicago every night because of the thugs, mayor and soft on crime policies. Summer of joy here we come. Now, lock the thread up, can't have too much truth up in here.

Could you please cite some specific "soft on crime" policies enacted by this mayor that has led to shootings? And back it up with data or any evidence?
(Psst ... by the way, shootings and homicides are down in Chicago this year).

Uncle Rico

I blame woke mobs, cancel culture, 2000 mules, CRT, mass replacement and illegal immigration
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rocket surgeon

Quote from: Clarissa on May 20, 2022, 07:47:51 AM

Do you have any studies that show that a significant number of shootings are committed by those who have been convicted of a prior felony?  Or even arrested for a felony and are out on bail?

Or is this yet another assertion that you have been told to believe?

I have said here many times that prisons should be prioritized for those convicted of violent acts. So I agree with you there. But unfortunately that's not the case.

They are all there sully, go look them up yourself. That way you can pick and choose your "reliable sources" and go with it. You know recidivism is a big big problem   These aren't all car jacking virgins. Speaking of which, the crimes being committed are by younger and younger thugs. Juvi crime ain't throwing eggs anymore. Juvi's committing violent crimes should be prosecuted as adult crimes.  These "children" see nothing happens when they do bad things...that why we keep getting bad things happening
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2022, 08:11:26 AM
I blame woke mobs, cancel culture, 2000 mules, CRT, mass replacement and illegal immigration

You forgot antifa and Soros.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2022, 07:59:02 AM


Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

No.  Authority oversteps.  Drugs are awesome and should be legalized, in general.  Society over prosecutes 'criminals' already.  There is plenty of respect for the fellow man.  Government 'give aways' should be increased and be more accessible where there is need so people don't turn to crime.  How would you restructure mental health laws.  We already celebrate 'heros' a ton, and hero worship is disgusting... people should do the right thing and not expect a god damn parade and a pat on the back.  Hard to have self respect when the system is rigged against the poor.  People don't commit crimes for fun, they commit them because they are desperate.

Pakuni

#33
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2022, 07:59:02 AM


Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

The Buffalo shooter came from a solidly upper, middle class, intact family. He had no history of drug use, no criminal history, didn't receive government hand outs, etc. The same could be said for many, if not a majority, of mass shooters.
That said, there's probably some good in here. Now, how do you propose to make this all happen?
I mean, on the one hand, you want to return to the "traditional family structure." But you also promote a criminal justice system that has incarcerated young Black fathers at five times the rate of their white peers, and gives them sentences 20% longer for the same offense.
These two positions conflict, don't they?

If you really want to fix the problem, let's crack down on males. Men are responsible for the vast majority of violent crime in this country, including 98% of mass shootings.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2022, 08:11:26 AM
I blame woke mobs, cancel culture, 2000 mules, CRT, mass replacement and illegal immigration

The caravan from south of the border should be getting ready in the next month or two

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2022, 08:17:32 AM
You forgot antifa and Soros.

And Disney making kids transgender with their movies probably make them steal guns to commit crimes.  I'd blame Disney a lot more than guns.  If these kids had more access to guns instead of seeing a Disney film with a gay character, we'd have less gun crime but Biden confiscated all the guns because he hates traditional families
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MU82

If we stop letting "others" replace white males, all problems will be solved.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2022, 08:07:44 AM
The kids that perpetrated the Columbine massacre had traditional family values and no priors.  They did have easy access to guns.

Next

  they did?  come on reeko- that smells like a big zero for the zero

  the trench coat mafia?  yeah, that must have been another name for their chess club eyn'a?

they built explosives for over a year and mommy and daddy didn't know anything about this?  what did they get for their birthdays?  bomb making for dummies?

they concluded harris was a psychopath-kinda hard not to notice at the dinner table?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 20, 2022, 08:24:12 AM
  they did?  come on reeko- that smells like a big zero for the zero

  the trench coat mafia?  yeah, that must have been another name for their chess club eyn'a?

they built explosives for over a year and mommy and daddy didn't know anything about this?  what did they get for their birthdays?  bomb making for dummies?

they concluded harris was a psychopath-kinda hard not to notice at the dinner table?

He was raised in a traditional family setting.
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rocket surgeon

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2022, 07:59:02 AM


Well, let's start with returning to a traditional family structure, respect for authority, eliminating the proliferation of illegal drugs, prosecuting criminals, respecting your fellow man, eliminate government give away program excepting for those who are truly down and out, restructure mental health laws, celebrate heros other than athletes and media celebrities, and build a sense of self respect rather than despair. There, that'll keep ya busy for a while, hey?

great post doc, but all those things are inconvenient, racist, misogynist and make me feel really really uncomfortable and not safe

  speaking of snowflakes, we are trying to argue with a whole nest of them here
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 20, 2022, 08:27:21 AM
great post doc, but all those things are inconvenient, racist, misogynist and make me feel really really uncomfortable and not safe

  speaking of snowflakes, we are trying to argue with a whole nest of them here

You're terrified of Joy Behar, frosty
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Hards Alumni


Pakuni

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 20, 2022, 08:24:12 AM
  they did?  come on reeko- that smells like a big zero for the zero

  the trench coat mafia?  yeah, that must have been another name for their chess club eyn'a?

they built explosives for over a year and mommy and daddy didn't know anything about this?  what did they get for their birthdays?  bomb making for dummies?

they concluded harris was a psychopath-kinda hard not to notice at the dinner table?

You have nearly everything wrong.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/trenchcoat-mafia-columbine-myths

MuggsyB

Perhaps we should look at the Singaporean system?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 20, 2022, 08:35:14 AM
Perhaps we should look at the Singaporean system?

We should look down upon it.

Violence doesn't solve violence.  I'd like to think society has come a long way in the last couple thousand years.

Pakuni

Quote from: MuggsyB on May 20, 2022, 08:35:14 AM
Perhaps we should look at the Singaporean system?

Perhaps we should look at the Australian system?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on May 20, 2022, 08:37:43 AM
Perhaps we should look at the Australian system?

Perhaps we should look at the Soviet gulag system?
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MuggsyB

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 20, 2022, 08:36:44 AM
We should look down upon it.

Violence doesn't solve violence.  I'd like to think society has come a long way in the last couple thousand years.

How do you define "solve"? 


MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 20, 2022, 08:39:23 AM
Perhaps we should look at the Soviet gulag system?

What we really need a leader like this guy:



He and the rest of the very fine people would keep the Jews from replacing us, that's for sure.

Also ... there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in ONE afternoon! TWO coats!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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