2025 Green Bay Packers Thread

[Uncle Rico]

Well it kinda does because if he plays 65% but plays terrible we get a better spot. Question is if he gets benched to save the 1 if he plays like @$$.

Hopefully, he quits on the Jets like quit on the Packers last year

[MU82]

From reading Scoop, it appears that most of the GB fans here think Love's not very good. Curious how many also thought Rodgers wasn't very good back in 2006 and 2007.

[Hards Alumni]

Packers to win the North at +500 are nice odds. Definitely some Ewing Theory potential, and the division feels still pretty open.

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Grabbed it

[Hards Alumni]

From reading Scoop, it appears that most of the GB fans here think Love's not very good. Curious how many also thought Rodgers wasn't very good back in 2006 and 2007.

I don't think that is at all the consensus.

[Uncle Rico]

From reading Scoop, it appears that most of the GB fans here think Love's not very good. Curious how many also thought Rodgers wasn't very good back in 2006 and 2007.

Nobody thought Rodgers was good until his game against the Cowboys on a Thursday night in 2007.  He was not good in camp, preseason or limited action his first two seasons.  He was slow and injury-prone.  It clicked for him after that.  He was good in camp and preseason in 2007.  A completely different player

[MU82]

I don't think that is at all the consensus.

OK. Maybe the haters are just louder, or maybe I just haven't read the thread right.

Anyway, did you expect Rodgers to be a star after sitting on the bench for 3 years? Did you expect him to suck? Did you not know what to expect?

[Hards Alumni]

OK. Maybe the haters are just louder, or maybe I just haven't read the thread right.

Anyway, did you expect Rodgers to be a star after sitting on the bench for 3 years? Did you expect him to suck? Did you not know what to expect?

I was very excited when he was drafted.  I didn't know what we had at the time, but who could have.  Brett was getting old, and you don't see a top 2 pick slide to the 20s very often unless there are major red flags.

[4everwarriors]

What was the rush to move up and select Love? Its not like he's the second coming of Mahomes. I'll be surprised if he's any more than pedestrian and would peddle his ass right now for a pigskin and a kickin' tee, hey?

[The Sultan]

Time will tell.

[cheebs09]

I was letdown at the time, but understand it. I think at that point, Rodgers' contract was very easy to get away from over the next few years, and his performance was dropping.

I think the plan was to have Love behind him and move on for the 2022 season. Then Rodgers won MVP twice and the team had great years and the next contract was very favorable to Rodgers.

[CreightonWarrior]

What was the rush to move up and select Love? Its not like he's the second coming of Mahomes. I'll be surprised if he's any more than pedestrian and would peddle his ass right now for a pigskin and a kickin' tee, hey?

He's not the second coming of Mahomes YET

[MUBurrow]

I was letdown at the time, but understand it. I think at that point, Rodgers' contract was very easy to get away from over the next few years, and his performance was dropping.

I think the plan was to have Love behind him and move on for the 2022 season. Then Rodgers won MVP twice and the team had great years and the next contract was very favorable to Rodgers.

Agreed on all. Given how Rodgers has consistently shown he needs to feel disrespected to feel motivated, I think the Packers got good value from Love if he never plays a down.

[Uncle Rico]

What was the rush to move up and select Love? Its not like he's the second coming of Mahomes. I'll be surprised if he's any more than pedestrian and would peddle his ass right now for a pigskin and a kickin' tee, hey?

Because Rodgers wasn't good in 2019 and was showing signs of decline.  It was his third straight sub-100 QB rating and he was going to be 37.

He was also beginning his diva song and dance BS.  He turned it around in '20 and '21 and was incredible.  The idea of drafting a QB in 2020 was no different that taking a QB in the first round in 2005

[Dish]

Apparently not.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/26/packers-get-short-term-cap-relief-with-minor-adjustment-to-aaron-rodgerss-contract/

Rodger's dead cap hit didn't change by one cent with the "restructuring". His dead cap for Green Bay is still $40.3 million, and Green Bay will carry that entire hit for all of the 2023 season. All this move does is impact 2024, where the restructuring means the Packers won't take a hit next season. Technically speaking, GB declined the 2023 option, and all three sides agreed to a new contract that "saved" GB $14 M in 2023 (that they were probably never going to pay anyway).

Before the trade: Rodgers GB cap hit $31.6 M for 2023
After the trade: Rodgers GB cap hit $40.3 M for 2023, $0 thereafter
Net net: Trading Rodgers now gave GB a net -$9 M cap hit this season, nothing moving forward

[Hards Alumni]

Rodger's dead cap hit didn't change by one cent with the "restructuring". His dead cap for Green Bay is still $40.3 million, and Green Bay will carry that entire hit for all of the 2023 season. All this move does is impact 2024, where the restructuring means the Packers won't take a hit next season. Technically speaking, GB declined the 2023 option, and all three sides agreed to a new contract that "saved" GB $14 M in 2023 (that they were probably never going to pay anyway).

Before the trade: Rodgers GB cap hit $31.6 M for 2023
After the trade: Rodgers GB cap hit $40.3 M for 2023, $0 thereafter
Net net: Trading Rodgers now gave GB a net -$9 M cap hit this season, nothing moving forward

Yup and that is a big W

[Dish]

Yup and that is a big W

It is a big win for GB for 2024, they were up against the projected ceiling for 2024 before this move. For the Jets, it'll allow them to reasonably work Rodgers in for 2024 (if he plays). The Jets real problem would be 2025/2026.

[The Sultan]

OK then I am not understanding when the PFT link says this:

"The contract has a $58.3 million option bonus, which converts to base salary if not exercised by Week One. The Packers had been carrying this year's allocation of the bonus — $14.575 million — along with his base salary for 2023. In a revision to the contract, the exercise window was shifted to erase the $14.575 million cap charge.

The alternative would have been to pick up the credit in 2024. The new deal allowed the Packers to get the benefit of the reduction now.

That reduces the cap charge from $37.4 million to $22.825 million, and it clears Rodgers from the books in 2023."

[Dish]

OK then I am not understanding when the PFT link says this:

"The contract has a $58.3 million option bonus, which converts to base salary if not exercised by Week One. The Packers had been carrying this year's allocation of the bonus — $14.575 million — along with his base salary for 2023. In a revision to the contract, the exercise window was shifted to erase the $14.575 million cap charge.

The alternative would have been to pick up the credit in 2024. The new deal allowed the Packers to get the benefit of the reduction now.

That reduces the cap charge from $37.4 million to $22.825 million, and it clears Rodgers from the books in 2023."

That's PFT's long winded way of saying the Packers declined to pick up his yearly $14.75 option bonus (that unless Rodgers eff'd them over, they were never going to pay anyway). It means Green Bay no longer has a commitment to that bonus going forward.

[MU82]

Rodgers said the Jets' didn't bring him in to be their savior.

Well, actually, they did.

[4everwarriors]

Because Rodgers wasn't good in 2019 and was showing signs of decline.  It was his third straight sub-100 QB rating and he was going to be 37.

He was also beginning his diva song and dance BS.  He turned it around in '20 and '21 and was incredible.  The idea of drafting a QB in 2020 was no different that taking a QB in the first round in 2005

Fine, but why Love? Dude was nothing special and was an interception machine, aina?

[Uncle Rico]

Fine, but why Love? Dude was nothing special and was an interception machine, aina?

So?  What was Josh Allen?

[Pakuni]

Fine, but why Love? Dude was nothing special and was an interception machine, aina?

Not like there were any other good QBs available to them.

[tower912]

Lamar Jackson can be had for a price.

[Pakuni]

So?  What was Josh Allen?

In his final college season, Allen threw six INTs on 270 attempts, or one per 45 attempts.
Love, in his final college season, threw 17 INTs on 293 attempts, or one per 17 attempts.

[Uncle Rico]

In his final college season, Allen threw six INTs on 270 attempts, or one per 45 attempts.
Love, in his final college season, threw 17 INTs on 293 attempts, or one per 17 attempts.

Ok, bad comp, lol.  There were a lot of concerns about Allen's completion percentage coming out and Love was really good as a sophomore with a new coach (Gary Andersen) his junior year