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WhiteTrash

Quote from: wadesworld on September 25, 2022, 04:13:07 PM
Need a quarterback in this league. Culture and composure only go so far.
"Fields had 82 net passing yards on a day in which he had two fumbles and two interceptions."
That's not going to work for the Bears?

Jockey

This is where Joe Barry struggles.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 25, 2022, 04:20:17 PM
Still sticking to my preseason prediction of 3. I don't think they will be favored in any remaining game. Washington maybe and that would be win 3.

That's crazy. How many $$$ you want to back that up with? Their D isn't good and their QB is bad. But they've rushed for 560 yards and 5.4 yds per carry over the first 3 games. Any team that can run the ball like that wins more than 3 games.

Jockey

Joe Barry chokes.

Brady chokes right back.

CreightonWarrior

What a brutal half to watch.

The Sultan

#830
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 25, 2022, 06:21:25 PM
That's crazy. How many $$$ you want to back that up with? Their D isn't good and their QB is bad. But they've rushed for 560 yards and 5.4 yds per carry over the first 3 games. Any team that can run the ball like that wins more than 3 games.

One of those games was a blowout loss. The other was the Texans.

Running the ball is pretty useless without even a decent quarterback and receivers.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 25, 2022, 06:21:25 PM
That's crazy. How many $$$ you want to back that up with? Their D isn't good and their QB is bad. But they've rushed for 560 yards and 5.4 yds per carry over the first 3 games. Any team that can run the ball like that wins more than 3 games.

Mostly because defenses are perfectly happy to let them run knowing they can't pass. Especially if the other team is winning

JWags85

Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 25, 2022, 04:20:17 PM
Still sticking to my preseason prediction of 3. I don't think they will be favored in any remaining game. Washington maybe and that would be win 3.

Falcons stink.  Jets stink. Commanders stink. Lions at home is probably a coin flip.  Plus it's the NFL, they likely steal one they shouldn't win.  I think 5 is likely.  6 isn't a stretch

PGsHeroes32

The Broncos negligent usage of Williams continues to ruin drives.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

wadesworld

Quay Walker looks awesome so far.

Dish

Denver is terrible. That's not a good football team, at all.

withoutbias

Quote from: DegenerateDish on September 25, 2022, 09:44:07 PM
Denver is terrible. That's not a good football team, at all.

And the 9ers lost to them AND the Bears. Yikes.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 25, 2022, 06:38:41 PM
Mostly because defenses are perfectly happy to let them run knowing they can't pass. Especially if the other team is winning

You don't understand football. Against a one dimensional offense th defense goes all out to stop what you do well and DARES you to do what you're weak at - if they can. So far the Bears opponents have been unable to do that (I.e., stop the run). And that's why a pretty bad team is 2-1 right now.

Dish

Quote from: WithoutBias on September 25, 2022, 10:29:56 PM
And the 9ers lost to them AND the Bears. Yikes.

Yeah, losing to both the Bears & Broncos is not a good look. I had zero confidence in Jimmy G to lead a go ahead drive.

I stand by my Broncos comment, that team is not good.

MU82

Bills OC Ken Dorsey totally trashed his area of the coaches' box immediately after they lost. Pretty damn funny to watch.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

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The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on September 25, 2022, 09:14:34 PM
Quay Walker looks awesome so far.

He's going to be great. But he gets out of place at times. Experience will fix that.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 25, 2022, 06:21:25 PM
That's crazy. How many $$$ you want to back that up with? Their D isn't good and their QB is bad. But they've rushed for 560 yards and 5.4 yds per carry over the first 3 games. Any team that can run the ball like that wins more than 3 games.
With 2 wins already I think you are perfectly reasonable to expect more than 3 wins. But I'm "crazy"? Except for the Washington game, which they should be favored in, the Bears will not be favored to win any games. Unless you think the Vegas guys are idiots or crazy, then the reasonable person should expect them to be 3-14.

As a Bears fan, I don't enjoy this rebuild either, but it has to be done. The massive roster turnover WILL continue beyond this year because they, IMHO, a lot of players who are not just poor NFL player, but players who should not be on NFL teams. I could see 50% of this team not being back next year and most of the cut players will not be in the NFL next year.

The worst part, as a Bears fan, is that Fields does not look like a NFL caliber QB. I hope will all my heart Fields turns it around, if not, I can see them picking a QB in the first round and they should.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 26, 2022, 08:42:00 AM
With 2 wins already I think you are perfectly reasonable to expect more than 3 wins. But I'm "crazy"? Except for the Washington game, which they should be favored in, the Bears will not be favored to win any games. Unless you think the Vegas guys are idiots or crazy, then the reasonable person should expect them to be 3-14.

I don't think you're crazy, but I don't think that's the right way to look at betting projections. Say for argument's sake that Vegas gives the Bears a 25% shot of winning in each of their remaining games besides Washington which we will give them as a win. You have to multiply that 75% likelihood of loss by each remaining game. So they have 75% chance of losing their next game. 75% x 75% = 56.25% of losing the next 2 games. 56.25% x 75% =42.1875% of losing their next three games. Do that for all the remaining games and the Bears would have a 2.3757264% chance of losing the other 13 games.

I haven't actually looked but my guess is that Vegas gives the Bears a lot better than 25% chance in most of their remaining games. So while yes the Bears will be the underdog in 13/14 remaining games, it is not reasonable to expect that they will lose ever game that they are an underdog in.

Disclaimer, I am a Packers fan and think the Bears still suck
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on September 26, 2022, 09:23:07 AM
Finally ... The Pro Bowl is dead.

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-nfl-replacing-pro-bowl-with-week-of-skills-competitions-flag-football-game-130108755.html

From the tweet:  "The Pro Bowl Games will also integrate new challenges, where players showcase their football and non-football skills in a fun and memorable way."

I'm having flashbacks of The Superstars


Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on September 26, 2022, 09:01:48 AM
Disclaimer, I am a Packers fan and think the Bears still suck
I think every Halas & McCaskey family member would agree with you.

The only saving grace for this Bears fan is that it is by design, not poor management.

forgetful

Quote from: StillAWarrior on September 26, 2022, 09:36:13 AM
From the tweet:  "The Pro Bowl Games will also integrate new challenges, where players showcase their football and non-football skills in a fun and memorable way."

I'm having flashbacks of The Superstars



Bring back American Gladiators and have the NFL players compete.

RJax55

Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 25, 2022, 05:05:54 PM
"Fields had 82 net passing yards on a day in which he had two fumbles and two interceptions."
That's not going to work for the Bears?

Fields is the worst in the pocket QB I have seen on the Bears. I'm not old enough to have watched Bobby Douglass, but the Bears might have found their modern day equivalent. As a thrower, Fields has no feel in the pocket, abysmal footwork, a poor release and is beyond indecisive in reading the defense and letting it rip.



WhiteTrash

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on September 26, 2022, 09:01:48 AM


I haven't actually looked but my guess is that Vegas gives the Bears a lot better than 25% chance in most of their remaining games. So while yes the Bears will be the underdog in 13/14 remaining games, it is not reasonable to expect that they will lose ever game that they are an underdog in.

You make sound points but my intentional memory block of statistics class at MU prevents me from verifying your numbers.

For grins, I looked at ESPN and the Bears are predicted to lose every game left on their schedule, even Washington.  I think we can agree the Bears are a shoe in for a top 5 pick in next years draft.

Jockey

Quote from: RJax55 on September 26, 2022, 02:45:56 PM
Fields is the worst in the pocket QB I have seen on the Bears. I'm not old enough to have watched Bobby Douglass, but the Bears might have found their modern day equivalent. As a thrower, Fields has no feel in the pocket, abysmal footwork, a poor release and is beyond indecisive in reading the defense and letting it rip.

I agree. He is brutal. And Bobby Douglas had twice the arm of Justin Fields. Nobody knew where it would go though.

I still think the better comparison is Trubisky. Neither one can read a defense and neither is too accurate.

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