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ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Jockey on June 15, 2022, 09:37:36 AM
This has been a good thread. Keep your 'stupid' out of it.

Wtf?  Rocket posted some trivia.  You post nothing of value.

Jockey

He posted that a 60 year old pitcher hit 2 grand slams in one major league game.

That's not trivia - it is lunacy. Only you and him would believe that.

MU82

Quote from: Jockey on June 15, 2022, 10:15:19 AM
That's not trivia - it is lunacy.

"Lunacy" is what roQQet posts 99.7% of the time. This was innocuous baseball stuff. Let it rest; you'll have plenty of opportunities to comment on "lunacy."
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4everwarriors

Y kant wee all bea friends, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on June 14, 2022, 08:51:01 PM
  1999 pitcher tony cloninger hit 2 grand slams in one game. the same year fernando tatis hit 2 in the same inning
Quote from: Jockey on June 15, 2022, 09:37:36 AM
This has been a good thread. Keep your 'stupid' out of it.

No kidding - On July 3, 1966, Cloninger hit two grand slams not in 1999; at least he had the year 1999 right for Tatis' feat.

Dish

I have big doubts on the Sox, but man this Tigers team really sucks.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: DegenerateDish on June 15, 2022, 01:32:41 PM
I have big doubts on the Sox, but man this Tigers team really sucks.

Much different than feasting on a cupcake in college basketball though.

I'm worried as a Twins fan this could be the type of series that wakes the Sox up a bit. Gets them feeling confident at the plate.

Also, as bad as the Tigers are and as make shift as their pitching has been. Its overall been pretty solid.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Jockey

#657
Quote from: DegenerateDish on June 15, 2022, 01:32:41 PM
I have big doubts on the Sox, but man this Tigers team really sucks.

Absolutely a brutal team. Out of the top 6 guys getting the most ABs, only one is hitting over .200. Tigers have a chance to be the worst hitting team in MLB history. Ever

lawdog77

Quote from: Jockey on June 15, 2022, 01:59:20 PM
Absolutely a brutal team. Out of the top 6 guys getting the most ABs, only one is hitting over .200. Tigers have a chance to be the worst hitting team in MLB history. Ever
Oakland says hello. Their TOP hitter is batting .234. I think their team WAR is in the negative (whatever WAR means)

PGsHeroes32

Story, Seager and Correa have all be far from flawless. Correa being the best of the bunch but missing a lot of games.



That said, my god did the Tigers draw the short stick for this season at least. Javy Baez stats should have him off the roster and in AAA. Ghastly numbers that have to have him close to among the worst regulars in the league.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Jockey

Quote from: lawdog77 on June 15, 2022, 02:29:09 PM
Oakland says hello. Their TOP hitter is batting .234. I think their team WAR is in the negative (whatever WAR means)

And still, the Tigers have managed to score 40 fewer runs than Oakland.

Jockey

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 15, 2022, 02:51:06 PM



That said, my god did the Tigers draw the short stick for this season at least. Javy Baez stats should have him off the roster and in AAA. Ghastly numbers that have to have him close to among the worst regulars in the league.

I said here in this thread that Baez and bryant were the worst two FA contracts given out this year. I stand by that.

Bryant is washed up. Once your back goes out, you are done.

Baez because he is just a bad baseball playert. Great skills and pizzaz, but a brutal player. If he can hit a 450 foot HR every couple of weeks, he is satisfied. Doesn't care about the strikeouts. Doesn't make any changes to improve. But, hey, he really knows how to tag guys.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on June 15, 2022, 03:01:10 PM
I said here in this thread that Baez and bryant were the worst two FA contracts given out this year. I stand by that.

Bryant is washed up. Once your back goes out, you are done.

Baez because he is just a bad baseball playert. Great skills and pizzaz, but a brutal player. If he can hit a 450 foot HR every couple of weeks, he is satisfied. Doesn't care about the strikeouts. Doesn't make any changes to improve. But, hey, he really knows how to tag guys.

Thats a bit dramatic, its not like he's only a DH that has no fielding value.  But I think the ship of Baez becoming a consistent top tier player has probably sailed.  He is what he has always been.  A very good and incredibly talented fielder, great baserunner and generally very high baseball IQ player...and one of the most undisciplined and incorrigible hitters of the last decade.  And unfortunately he's shown zero interest in improving the latter. 

He's streaky and can get super hot.  He was very good with the Mets the back half of last year.  But he can also do what he did in 2020 and is doing this year.  And as he gets older, he won't have the athletic ability to make up for it.

He's one of my fav Cubs of my lifetime, but lets not forget he came up in 2014, had some huge moments...and then was back to AAA until the season was basically over in 2015 cause he couldn't stop striking out.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on June 15, 2022, 03:43:03 PM
Thats a bit dramatic, its not like he's only a DH that has no fielding value.  But I think the ship of Baez becoming a consistent top tier player has probably sailed.  He is what he has always been.  A very good and incredibly talented fielder, great baserunner and generally very high baseball IQ player...and one of the most undisciplined and incorrigible hitters of the last decade.  And unfortunately he's shown zero interest in improving the latter. 

He's streaky and can get super hot.  He was very good with the Mets the back half of last year.  But he can also do what he did in 2020 and is doing this year.  And as he gets older, he won't have the athletic ability to make up for it.

He's one of my fav Cubs of my lifetime, but lets not forget he came up in 2014, had some huge moments...and then was back to AAA until the season was basically over in 2015 cause he couldn't stop striking out.

I guess the part I bolded is what I was saying.  I had a friend living in Tennessee about 5 miles from the Cubs AA team stadium. I still remember going to a weekend series while visiting and Baez had 2 walk-off HRs in the 3 games while getting several other hits and playing sparkling defense. I couldn't wait for the Cubs to bring him up.

But while he has certainly had some moments, he has been a disappointment overall (in relation to what I thought he would be) and I think his days of mattering are over.

tower912

Detroit is on pace to score the least runs in a season ever.   Epically bad hitting.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

At least Baez was the most exciting baseball player in the history of the sport though.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on June 15, 2022, 04:09:20 PM
I guess the part I bolded is what I was saying.  I had a friend living in Tennessee about 5 miles from the Cubs AA team stadium. I still remember going to a weekend series while visiting and Baez had 2 walk-off HRs in the 3 games while getting several other hits and playing sparkling defense. I couldn't wait for the Cubs to bring him up.

But while he has certainly had some moments, he has been a disappointment overall (in relation to what I thought he would be) and I think his days of mattering are over.

Oh absolutely.  I thought after 18 and 19 he was there.  He was a star.  I was ready for 2020 to be an aberration, as it was for many, and he still won a GG.  But its just been a disappointment.  I was happy he played himself into a contract with those Mets games, but going to a team seemingly going nowhere like the Tigers and playing like he has is just a total bummer.

PGsHeroes32

The Twins have 3 runs in their last 36 innings. Are currently being 2 hit through 6 by Marco freaking Gonzales

If Alex Kirilloff isnt in the lineup come Friday.

For the first time in my life, I will have to just start cheering for a new team

Blue Jays are fun to watch, they also play their young talent. Might be a solid choice.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

tower912

He chases fastballs over his head and sliders a foot off the plate. Sometimes on back to back pitches.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MUBurrow

I don't follow the Twins closely enough to have an opinion, but maybe the Twins brass might be afraid of wrecking Kirilloff?  He struggled pretty badly to start the year then had the wrist injury from last year pop back up, which probably will be an issue for at least the rest of '22.  I'm typically happy to lead the service time manipulation mob, but maybe seeing him rake again in the minors is just making everyone feel content at the moment?  I see he has reverse splits so far in the majors though, so unless that's oddly different from his numbers in the minors, its not like he wouldn't play once he's up. So playing time shouldn't be an issue.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MUBurrow on June 15, 2022, 05:25:14 PM
I don't follow the Twins closely enough to have an opinion, but maybe the Twins brass might be afraid of wrecking Kirilloff?  He struggled pretty badly to start the year then had the wrist injury from last year pop back up, which probably will be an issue for at least the rest of '22.  I'm typically happy to lead the service time manipulation mob, but maybe seeing him rake again in the minors is just making everyone feel content at the moment?  I see he has reverse splits so far in the majors though, so unless that's oddly different from his numbers in the minors, its not like he wouldn't play once he's up. So playing time shouldn't be an issue.

He was 1/17 to start the year. Thats a simple cold stretch everyone has in baseball which was explained by a bad wrist. He went to the IL. Came back and started back in the Bigs. Went 4/12. Was then sent down AFTER the 4/12. Has now raked in the minors.

Miranda started his career 5/54. Luckily we kept needing bodies so he was never demoted and hes leveled out a bit at the plate(still a negative war thanks to his D though).

Larnach had a .670 OPS last year. Is now 4 for his last 43.

Kiriloff has a .722 OPS last year with the sore wrist(just ok).

Nick Gordon flat sucks. But they like the fact he plays 5 positions(only 1 of them solidly) and he has no options

Kirilloff has always been the best prospect of the bunch. Hes hit the best in AAA and hes had the longest sustained success in the majors.

Kirilloff shouldnt even be behind Kepler on the depth chart.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

Devers entering that best hitter in the game convo with authority.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Lennys Tap

Quote from: wadesworld on June 15, 2022, 04:30:19 PM
At least Baez was the most exciting baseball player in the history of the sport though.

He was really good at tagging people at 2nd base. I never thought that was enough to merit a bust in Cooperstown but whatever.

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 15, 2022, 08:34:36 PM
He was really good at tagging people at 2nd base. I never thought that was enough to merit a bust in Cooperstown but whatever.

Don't forget the slides! If there's ever a Sliding And Tagging Hall of Fame, he'll be a charter member.
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ChitownSpaceForRent

Speaking of tags, there was a pretty slick one today by Rojas in the Marlins game.

The Marlins catcher also got "tagged" in the nuts by a baseball later in the game.

Almost made up for having to watch the Phillies vs. Marlins and write a script for it.

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