Waukesha Christmas Parade

[The Sultan]

Question:

If a white guy who was all over social media attacking black people, the BLM movement and the guilty verdict for the three murderers in Georgia drove an SUV into a parade in a black community and killed a bunch of black people would anyone on Scoop or in the general population need an admission from the killer to believe that race was a motive?

I know I wouldn't.

Absent any other information sure that would be a reasonable conclusion.

But in this case, he was in Waukesha presumably for another reason.  The police were called to where he was and he was leaving the area.  So if his goal was to kill as many white people as possible, it certainly would have been a last minute choice because it certainly didn't seem to be his primary motive for going there.  Furthermore he certainly missed a lot of white people when he was driving through the parade too.

So I am left with an "I don't really know."

And, most importantly, "not that it really matters."

[MU82]

nm. not worth it. happy thanksgiving to all.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

  or like these 2, eyn'a?

And your befuddled brain can't figure out how people could possibly call you a racist.

[NolongerWarriors]

Looks like George Stanley has decided the Waukesha attack is no longer news.

It's completely gone from the Journal Sentinel.

This is media bias in action in real time.

[The Sultan]

Looks like George Stanley has decided the Waukesha attack is no longer news.

It's completely gone from the Journal Sentinel.

This is media bias in action in real time.

Tweets in the last 24 hours from the MJS linking to stories.

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463887721018052613?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463883946660352001?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463876409693282305?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463690672981041154?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463684381839708161?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463680352883548163?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463646380195565572?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463623730588966914?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463612405871697921?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463607123393355788?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463594536886751237?s=21

This is NoLonger's illiteracy is real time.

[forgetful]

Question:

If a white guy who was all over social media attacking black people, the BLM movement and the guilty verdict for the three murderers in Georgia drove an SUV into a parade in a black community and killed a bunch of black people would anyone on Scoop or in the general population need an admission from the killer to believe that race was a motive?

I know I wouldn't.

You mean like, let's say, a white 17 year old complaining about looters and rioters, and how he wish he had an AR-15 so he could shoot them, then going out and getting an AR-15, going to a protest/riot and shooting them.

Or how about a white person running over protestors with his car at a white nationalist rally. I'm sure no one would defend that, or say it wasn't race motivated...Both Sides.

I agree, no one on scoop or the general population would need an admission to find the white kid responsible, or race being a motive.

The Waukesha killer is evil. Let him rot in prison. No reason to create agendas around this, especially ones not supported by evidence/history.

[🏀]

You mean like, let's say, a white 17 year old complaining about looters and rioters, and how he wish he had an AR-15 so he could shoot them, then going out and getting an AR-15, going to a protest/riot and shooting them.

Or how about a white person running over protestors with his car at a white nationalist rally. I'm sure no one would defend that, or say it wasn't race motivated...Both Sides.

I agree, no one on scoop or the general population would need an admission to find the white kid responsible, or race being a motive.

The Waukesha killer is evil. Let him rot in prison. No reason to create agendas around this, especially ones not supported by evidence/history.

Very fine people on both sides.

[NolongerWarriors]

Tweets in the last 24 hours from the MJS linking to stories.

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463887721018052613?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463883946660352001?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463876409693282305?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463690672981041154?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463684381839708161?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463680352883548163?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463646380195565572?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463623730588966914?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463612405871697921?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463607123393355788?s=21

https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1463594536886751237?s=21

This is NoLonger's illiteracy is real time.

You didn't look in the actual hard copy paper, did you?

[The Sultan]

You didn't look in the actual hard copy paper, did you?

No. Because I'm not over the age of 70.

But the idea that the MJS is ignoring the story is completely laughable. Gimme a break.

[wadesworld]

Yeah. Type in jsonline.com and it's literally the only thing you see without scrolling (in the mobile version, anyway). 3 articles on it.

What narrative is "the media" trying to push here, anyway?

[hairy worthen]

Yeah. Type in jsonline.com and it's literally the only thing you see without scrolling (in the mobile version, anyway). 3 articles on it.

What narrative is "the media" trying to push here, anyway?

It's a local story, of course they are covering it extensively. There are many outlets not covering it in the same way though.

[The Sultan]

It's a local story, of course they are covering it extensively. There are many outlets not covering it in the same way though.

Stories like this are covered a few days by the National outlets and then they move on. They'll be back when there is a trial or he pleads.

Really lacking perspective if people think "the media" is pushing an agenda here.

[hairy worthen]

Stories like this are covered a few days by the National outlets and then they move on. They'll be back when there is a trial or he pleads.

Really lacking perspective if people think "the media" is pushing an agenda here.

Of course, news cycles are short. But when you gloss over a hideous killing of 6 people and running over 40 plus people in a christmas parade by calling it an "accident" or "car crash"  or saying an SUV ran them over, that is disgusting.  Maybe not pushing an agenda, but not painting an accurate picture of of the horrific nature of the crime or criminal either. This was multiple large news outlets, not isolated reporting.

[The Sultan]

Of course, news cycles are short. But when you gloss over a hideous killing of 6 people and running over 40 plus people in a christmas parade by calling it an "accident" or "car crash"  or saying an SUV ran them over, that is disgusting.  Maybe not pushing an agenda, but not painting an accurate picture of of the horrific nature of the crime or criminal either. This was multiple large news outlets, not isolated reporting.

I guess people will find outrage when they want to be outraged.

[hairy worthen]

I guess people will find outrage when they want to be outraged.

I'm guessing you would feel differently if it was your friend or kid who was killed or severely injured.

[The Sultan]

I'm guessing you would feel differently if it was your friend or kid who was killed or severely injured.

I hope not.  Just misplaced anger.

[hairy worthen]

I hope not.  Just misplaced anger.

The problem I have with this type of reporting is it desensitizes the horrific nature of the crime. Politics or race shouldn't  play into it. It's a big deal, and affected many lives in a terrible way. It should be reported as such not rationalized.

[Billy Hoyle]

Of course, news cycles are short. But when you gloss over a hideous killing of 6 people and running over 40 plus people in a christmas parade by calling it an "accident" or "car crash"  or saying an SUV ran them over, that is disgusting.  Maybe not pushing an agenda, but not painting an accurate picture of of the horrific nature of the crime or criminal either. This was multiple large news outlets, not isolated reporting.

New word being used by legacy media: "incident."

Of course, the race hustlers like Kendi, Reid, and NHJ are amazingly silent on this tragedy and atrocity.

[wadesworld]

It's a local story, of course they are covering it extensively. There are many outlets not covering it in the same way though.

Nolongerwarriors has claimed the Journal Sentinel isn't reporting on it and is ignoring it. They aren't at all. Their website is covering it extensively.

And I'm at my parents' for Thanksgiving and looked at their hard copy of today's Journal Sentinel. It is very clearly just a Thanksgiving issue. In fact, it says in big font at the top, "The Big Thanksgiving Issue." It also clearly says right on the front page that it was printed early for the holidays. So anything they were going to print on it would've been day old news.

[The Sultan]

The problem I have with this type of reporting is it desensitizes the horrific nature of the crime. Politics or race shouldn't  play into it. It's a big deal, and affected many lives in a terrible way. It should be reported as such not rationalized.

It is being reported as such. You are reading too much into it.

[Uncle Rico]

It is being reported as such. You are reading too much into it.

When certain people get diarrhea, they blame the media.  Many people are stupid.

[Hards Alumni]

I love how many people woke up this morning and though to themselves, "How can I politically weaponize this".

And how many people around here bit hard on that bait.

[Goose]

hairy

Fluff has become the scoop tough guy and getting a straight answer is not going to happen. The Waukesha tragedy was horrible event and only an idiot could argue that. The whole thing makes me sad and debating it on here has made things worse for me.

[brewcity77]

Two thoughts...

The use of the word accident is incorrect, but paid professionals refer to pretty much any car collision as "accidents" all the time. I have written a ton of reports on car collisions and it was only through deliberate and thoughtful action that I broke myself of that habit. I did so because the use of accident automatically implies a motive that I couldn't possibly know. Now one of my duties is reviewing reports of hundreds of professionals that write reports at such incidents and the word accident is pretty much ubiquitous with collision. It's wrong, but getting upset about that is silly because 99% of our society uses the words synonymously.

Second, while Jack Posobiec is the worst kind of human filth, when people dismiss his videos simply because of the source, you're kind of proving CountryRoads' point.

[hairy worthen]

hairy

Fluff has become the scoop tough guy and getting a straight answer is not going to happen. The Waukesha tragedy was horrible event and only an idiot could argue that. The whole thing makes me sad and debating it on here has made things worse for me.

I should know better than to discuss anything like this on here. Made me feel worse as well. My youngest goes to CMH and we know some of the people who were there and some of the families at Waukesha Catholic that were injured. Makes me sick to my stomach.