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Author Topic: Waukesha Christmas Parade  (Read 5502 times)

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #250 on: November 25, 2021, 10:11:19 AM »
Question:

If a white guy who was all over social media attacking black people, the BLM movement and the guilty verdict for the three murderers in Georgia drove an SUV into a parade in a black community and killed a bunch of black people would anyone on Scoop or in the general population need an admission from the killer to believe that race was a motive?

I know I wouldn’t.


Absent any other information sure that would be a reasonable conclusion.

But in this case, he was in Waukesha presumably for another reason.  The police were called to where he was and he was leaving the area.  So if his goal was to kill as many white people as possible, it certainly would have been a last minute choice because it certainly didn't seem to be his primary motive for going there.  Furthermore he certainly missed a lot of white people when he was driving through the parade too.

So I am left with an "I don't really know."

And, most importantly, "not that it really matters."
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #251 on: November 25, 2021, 10:23:48 AM »
nm. not worth it. happy thanksgiving to all.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #252 on: November 25, 2021, 10:50:27 AM »
  or like these 2, eyn'a?
And your befuddled brain can't figure out how people could possibly call you a racist.

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #253 on: November 25, 2021, 10:51:06 AM »
Looks like George Stanley has decided the Waukesha attack is no longer news.

It's completely gone from the Journal Sentinel.

This is media bias in action in real time.


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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #255 on: November 25, 2021, 11:36:00 AM »
Question:

If a white guy who was all over social media attacking black people, the BLM movement and the guilty verdict for the three murderers in Georgia drove an SUV into a parade in a black community and killed a bunch of black people would anyone on Scoop or in the general population need an admission from the killer to believe that race was a motive?

I know I wouldn’t.

You mean like, let's say, a white 17 year old complaining about looters and rioters, and how he wish he had an AR-15 so he could shoot them, then going out and getting an AR-15, going to a protest/riot and shooting them.

Or how about a white person running over protestors with his car at a white nationalist rally. I'm sure no one would defend that, or say it wasn't race motivated...Both Sides.

I agree, no one on scoop or the general population would need an admission to find the white kid responsible, or race being a motive.

The Waukesha killer is evil. Let him rot in prison. No reason to create agendas around this, especially ones not supported by evidence/history.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #256 on: November 25, 2021, 12:11:17 PM »
You mean like, let's say, a white 17 year old complaining about looters and rioters, and how he wish he had an AR-15 so he could shoot them, then going out and getting an AR-15, going to a protest/riot and shooting them.

Or how about a white person running over protestors with his car at a white nationalist rally. I'm sure no one would defend that, or say it wasn't race motivated...Both Sides.

I agree, no one on scoop or the general population would need an admission to find the white kid responsible, or race being a motive.

The Waukesha killer is evil. Let him rot in prison. No reason to create agendas around this, especially ones not supported by evidence/history.

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #258 on: November 25, 2021, 04:13:36 PM »
You didn't look in the actual hard copy paper, did you?

No. Because I’m not over the age of 70.

But the idea that the MJS is ignoring the story is completely laughable. Gimme a break.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #259 on: November 25, 2021, 04:17:27 PM »
Yeah. Type in jsonline.com and it’s literally the only thing you see without scrolling (in the mobile version, anyway). 3 articles on it.

What narrative is “the media” trying to push here, anyway?
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #260 on: November 25, 2021, 04:47:59 PM »
Yeah. Type in jsonline.com and it’s literally the only thing you see without scrolling (in the mobile version, anyway). 3 articles on it.

What narrative is “the media” trying to push here, anyway?
It's a local story, of course they are covering it extensively. There are many outlets not covering it in the same way though.

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #261 on: November 25, 2021, 04:59:48 PM »
It's a local story, of course they are covering it extensively. There are many outlets not covering it in the same way though.


Stories like this are covered a few days by the National outlets and then they move on. They’ll be back when there is a trial or he pleads.

Really lacking perspective if people think “the media” is pushing an agenda here.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #262 on: November 25, 2021, 05:30:59 PM »

Stories like this are covered a few days by the National outlets and then they move on. They’ll be back when there is a trial or he pleads.

Really lacking perspective if people think “the media” is pushing an agenda here.
Of course, news cycles are short. But when you gloss over a hideous killing of 6 people and running over 40 plus people in a christmas parade by calling it an "accident" or "car crash"  or saying an SUV ran them over, that is disgusting.  Maybe not pushing an agenda, but not painting an accurate picture of of the horrific nature of the crime or criminal either. This was multiple large news outlets, not isolated reporting.

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #263 on: November 25, 2021, 05:36:33 PM »
Of course, news cycles are short. But when you gloss over a hideous killing of 6 people and running over 40 plus people in a christmas parade by calling it an "accident" or "car crash"  or saying an SUV ran them over, that is disgusting.  Maybe not pushing an agenda, but not painting an accurate picture of of the horrific nature of the crime or criminal either. This was multiple large news outlets, not isolated reporting.


I guess people will find outrage when they want to be outraged.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #264 on: November 25, 2021, 05:44:32 PM »

I guess people will find outrage when they want to be outraged.
I'm guessing you would feel differently if it was your friend or kid who was killed or severely injured.

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #265 on: November 25, 2021, 05:55:12 PM »
I'm guessing you would feel differently if it was your friend or kid who was killed or severely injured.

I hope not.  Just misplaced anger.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #266 on: November 25, 2021, 06:04:31 PM »
I hope not.  Just misplaced anger.
The problem I have with this type of reporting is it desensitizes the horrific nature of the crime. Politics or race shouldn't  play into it. It's a big deal, and affected many lives in a terrible way. It should be reported as such not rationalized.

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #267 on: November 25, 2021, 06:14:51 PM »
Of course, news cycles are short. But when you gloss over a hideous killing of 6 people and running over 40 plus people in a christmas parade by calling it an "accident" or "car crash"  or saying an SUV ran them over, that is disgusting.  Maybe not pushing an agenda, but not painting an accurate picture of of the horrific nature of the crime or criminal either. This was multiple large news outlets, not isolated reporting.

New word being used by legacy media: “incident.”

Of course, the race hustlers like Kendi, Reid, and NHJ are amazingly silent on this tragedy and atrocity.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #268 on: November 25, 2021, 06:15:38 PM »
It's a local story, of course they are covering it extensively. There are many outlets not covering it in the same way though.

Nolongerwarriors has claimed the Journal Sentinel isn’t reporting on it and is ignoring it. They aren’t at all. Their website is covering it extensively.

And I’m at my parents’ for Thanksgiving and looked at their hard copy of today’s Journal Sentinel. It is very clearly just a Thanksgiving issue. In fact, it says in big font at the top, “The Big Thanksgiving Issue.” It also clearly says right on the front page that it was printed early for the holidays. So anything they were going to print on it would’ve been day old news.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #269 on: November 25, 2021, 06:16:32 PM »
The problem I have with this type of reporting is it desensitizes the horrific nature of the crime. Politics or race shouldn't  play into it. It's a big deal, and affected many lives in a terrible way. It should be reported as such not rationalized.

It is being reported as such. You are reading too much into it.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #270 on: November 25, 2021, 07:31:05 PM »
It is being reported as such. You are reading too much into it.

When certain people get diarrhea, they blame the media.  Many people are stupid.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #271 on: November 25, 2021, 10:04:04 PM »
I love how many people woke up this morning and though to themselves, "How can I politically weaponize this".

And how many people around here bit hard on that bait.

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #272 on: November 26, 2021, 03:22:27 AM »
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Fluff has become the scoop tough guy and getting a straight answer is not going to happen. The Waukesha tragedy was horrible event and only an idiot could argue that. The whole thing makes me sad and debating it on here has made things worse for me.

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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #273 on: November 26, 2021, 06:45:12 AM »
Two thoughts...

The use of the word accident is incorrect, but paid professionals refer to pretty much any car collision as "accidents" all the time. I have written a ton of reports on car collisions and it was only through deliberate and thoughtful action that I broke myself of that habit. I did so because the use of accident automatically implies a motive that I couldn't possibly know. Now one of my duties is reviewing reports of hundreds of professionals that write reports at such incidents and the word accident is pretty much ubiquitous with collision. It's wrong, but getting upset about that is silly because 99% of our society uses the words synonymously.

Second, while Jack Posobiec is the worst kind of human filth, when people dismiss his videos simply because of the source, you're kind of proving CountryRoads' point.
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Re: Waukesha Christmas Parade
« Reply #274 on: November 26, 2021, 07:00:18 AM »
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Fluff has become the scoop tough guy and getting a straight answer is not going to happen. The Waukesha tragedy was horrible event and only an idiot could argue that. The whole thing makes me sad and debating it on here has made things worse for me.
I should know better than to discuss anything like this on here. Made me feel worse as well. My youngest goes to CMH and we know some of the people who were there and some of the families at Waukesha Catholic that were injured. Makes me sick to my stomach.