Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[JakeBarnes]

Bracketville has us in Buffalo as a 4 playing South Dakota State, followed by 5 seed Ohio State. 1 Seed of Kansas in the San Antonio region and a possibility of meeting Bucky or Arizona in an E8 matchup to go to final four. 

[PGsHeroes32]

Bracketville has us in Buffalo as a 4 playing SD state, followed by  5 seed Ohio State. 1 Seed of Kansas in the San Antonio region and a possibility of meeting Bucky or Arizona in an E8 matchup to go to final four.

I don't know much about SD State but in the past they have been scrappy.

OSU and Kansas is a solid draw tho for those rounds

[JakeBarnes]

I don't know much about SD State but in the past they have been scrappy.

OSU and Kansas is a solid draw tho for those rounds

Kenpom as South Dakota state as top 15 offense with a defense at 250 (79 overall team). Would be fun to see if Marquette could impose it's will on both ends of the floor in that one given the big disparity (our top 25 defense and top 60 offense)

[fjm]

Kenpom as South Dakota state as top 15 offense with a defense at 250 (79 overall team). Would be fun to see if Marquette could impose it's will on both ends of the floor in that one given the big disparity (our top 25 defense and top 60 offense)

We sure it's South Dakota and not San Diego?

[JakeBarnes]

We sure it's South Dakota and not San Diego?

Yes, as I was the one that wrote the original post about Bracketville.

[fjm]

Yes, as I was the one that wrote the original post about Bracketville.

Haha and I also didn't look. Dummy move by me sorry. Thanks

[Badgerhater]

Bracketville has us in Buffalo as a 4 playing South Dakota State, followed by 5 seed Ohio State. 1 Seed of Kansas in the San Antonio region and a possibility of meeting Bucky or Arizona in an E8 matchup to go to final four.

As alumni of both schools this is my worst case scenario.

[MU82]

a possibility of meeting whoever beat Bucky in the first round or Arizona in an E8 matchup to go to final four.

FIFY

[PointWarrior]

Awesome, are there like 800 games between now and tourney time that could change any of the seeds or maybe even upsets in  the tourney itself that may affect who MU plays in the E8?

Bracketville has us in Buffalo as a 4 playing South Dakota State, followed by 5 seed Ohio State. 1 Seed of Kansas in the San Antonio region and a possibility of meeting Bucky or Arizona in an E8 matchup to go to final four.

[JakeBarnes]

Awesome, are there like 800 games between now and tourney time that could change any of the seeds or maybe even upsets in  the tourney itself that may affect who MU plays in the E8?

This guy is fun at parties.

[tower912]

Awesome, are there like 800 games between now and tourney time that could change any of the seeds or maybe even upsets in  the tourney itself that may affect who MU plays in the E8?

We agree.   That can't be good.

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Rankings February 7, 2022
AP
11. Cooley & Company
15. Nova
18. MU
24. U Conn
25. X
Coaches
11. Cooley & Company
15. Nova
19. MU
23. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
X, The Hall

[Herman Cain]

 Big East NET Rankings as of  games of February 7, 2022
New Old
6   6   Villanova   
18   18   UConn   
21   21   Xavier   
25   25   Marquette   
26   26   Providence   
35   35   Seton Hall   
75   74   Creighton   
88   86   St. John's
103   103   DePaul   
135   135   Butler   
212   211   Georgetown   

February 8 Team Sheets . Marquette is 25
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2020/net-nitty-team

[MarquetteMike1977]

John Gasaway ESPN Insider's opening Bubble Watch came out today. He has Villanova as the Big East's only lock. Marquette is in the Should Be In Section along with Providence, UConn and Xavier. He has Seton Hall and Creighton in the Work To Do Section.
Marquette Golden Eagles
The coach who draws Marquette as an opponent in the NCAA tournament is going to wince when he looks at this team's numbers for defense and shooting. Oklahoma transfer Kur Kuath has blocked five or more shots in a game five times this season, and Shaka Smart's team has made 39% of its 3s in Big East play. True, the good news for our fretful opposing coach is that Marquette is notably weak on the boards at both ends of the floor. But if Justin Lewis and Kam Jones are hitting from outside, you can win the rebound battle only to lose the game. Also, that opposing coach might be bringing a No. 13 seed to the bracket: Smart's group is projected to land on the No. 4 line.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of February 8,2022
New Old
6   6   Villanova   
18   18   UConn   
20   21   Xavier   
24   25   Marquette   
25   26   Providence   
33   35   Seton Hall   
76   75   Creighton   
88   88   St. John's
105   103   DePaul   
132   135   Butler   
213   212   Georgetown   
February 9 Team Sheets . Marquette is 24
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2020/net-nitty-team

[MU82]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of February 8,2022
New Old
6   6   Villanova   
18   18   UConn   
20   21   Xavier   
24   25   Marquette   
25   26   Providence   
33   35   Seton Hall   
76   75   Creighton   
88   88   St. John's
105   103   DePaul   
132   135   Butler   
213   212   Georgetown   
February 9 Team Sheets . Marquette is 24
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2020/net-nitty-team

I know there are all kinds of reasons for it, but I still had to chuckle upon seeing that our loss moved us up a spot while UConn's win only helped them stay where they were.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I know there are all kinds of reasons for it, but I still had to chuckle upon seeing that our loss moved us up a spot while UConn's win only helped them stay where they were.

Michigan State dropped from 23 to 26 after losing to Wisconsin.  That is why Marquette and Providence both moved up 1 spot.

[Newsdreams]

Michigan State dropped from 23 to 26 after losing to Wisconsin.  That is why Marquette and Providence both moved up 1 spot.

Michigan St 🍦

[MarquetteMike1977]

I know there are all kinds of reasons for it, but I still had to chuckle upon seeing that our loss moved us up a spot while UConn's win only helped them stay where they were.

Agree had to chuckle too. Reminded me of Marquette in 2020 finishing #26 in the NET after losing most of the games down the stretch. NET Rankings as of Wednesday, March 4 2020
NET Rank   Team   Record
1   Kansas   25 – 3
2   Gonzaga   29 – 2
3   Dayton   27 – 2
4   San Diego State   27 – 1
5   Baylor   26 – 3
6   Duke   24 – 6
7   Michigan State   21 – 9
8   Louisville   24 – 6
9   BYU   23 – 7
10   Arizona   19 – 10
11   Florida State   24 – 5
12   Seton Hall   21 – 7
13   Creighton   21 – 7
14   Villanova   22 – 7
15   Ohio State   20 – 9
16   Oregon   22 – 7
17   Maryland   23 – 7
18   Houston   22 – 7
19   West Virginia   20 – 10
20   Butler   20 – 9
21   Kentucky   24 – 6
22   Texas Tech   18 – 12
23   Colorado   21 – 9
24   Michigan   18 – 11
25   Stanford   20 – 9
26   Marquette   18 – 11

[mileskishnish72]

As alumni of both schools this is my worst case scenario.
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Alumnus.

[Shooter McGavin]

The Big East was tough that year. 

[tower912]

Agree had to chuckle too. Reminded me of Marquette in 2020 finishing #26 in the NET after losing most of the games down the stretch. NET Rankings as of Wednesday, March 4 2020
NET Rank   Team   Record
1   Kansas   25 – 3
2   Gonzaga   29 – 2
3   Dayton   27 – 2
4   San Diego State   27 – 1
5   Baylor   26 – 3
6   Duke   24 – 6
7   Michigan State   21 – 9
8   Louisville   24 – 6
9   BYU   23 – 7
10   Arizona   19 – 10
11   Florida State   24 – 5
12   Seton Hall   21 – 7
13   Creighton   21 – 7
14   Villanova   22 – 7
15   Ohio State   20 – 9
16   Oregon   22 – 7
17   Maryland   23 – 7
18   Houston   22 – 7
19   West Virginia   20 – 10
20   Butler   20 – 9
21   Kentucky   24 – 6
22   Texas Tech   18 – 12
23   Colorado   21 – 9
24   Michigan   18 – 11
25   Stanford   20 – 9
26   Marquette   18 – 11

Another data point firmly placing MU in the tourney that year.

[Lennys Tap]

Another data point firmly placing MU in the tourney that year.

This "data point" wasn't the end of the season. We lost the next game, too - giving us 6 looses in our final 7 to finish the regular season 18-12, 8-10. A first found loss in the BE tournament (extremely likely given the way we were trending) makes us 18-13 with 7 losses in our last 8. I don't think that places us "firmly in" but for the sake of argument let's say we squeak in. That likely means an eve 18-14 finish, 8 losses in our last 9 and our third embarrassing tourney loss in three tries. And it would go down as Wojo's 3rd best season out of 7. Now, that's a data point to chew on!

[wadesworld]

This "data point" wasn't the end of the season. We lost the next game, too - giving us 6 looses in our final 7 to finish the regular season 18-12, 8-10. A first found loss in the BE tournament (extremely likely given the way we were trending) makes us 18-13 with 7 losses in our last 8. I don't think that places us "firmly in" but for the sake of argument let's say we squeak in. That likely means an eve 18-14 finish, 8 losses in our last 9 and our third embarrassing tourney loss in three tries. And it would go down as Wojo's 3rd best season out of 7. Now, that's a data point to chew on!

Ignore the actual data point (in 97/97 brackets, with an average seed of 8.7) and take a hypothetical two more losses!

That's some solid data!

[tower912]

This "data point" wasn't the end of the season. We lost the next game, too - giving us 6 looses in our final 7 to finish the regular season 18-12, 8-10. A first found loss in the BE tournament (extremely likely given the way we were trending) makes us 18-13 with 7 losses in our last 8. I don't think that places us "firmly in" but for the sake of argument let's say we squeak in. That likely means an eve 18-14 finish, 8 losses in our last 9 and our third embarrassing tourney loss in three tries. And it would go down as Wojo's 3rd best season out of 7. Now, that's a data point to chew on!

Wojo is gone.   Shaka is better.  Holding on to anger and denying reality isn't healthy.