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Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« on: November 16, 2021, 09:02:22 AM »
Big East Poll Rankings as of November 15:
AP
5. Nova
23. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes: X, The Hall, The Johnnies 
Coaches
Will update when they update their poll for games played.
NET Rankings
Will post when they start coming out
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2021, 12:54:55 PM »
Big East Poll Rankings as of November 22

AP
7. Nova
21. The Hall
23 .U Conn
25. X

Others Receiving Votes
MU

Coaches
7.Nova
20. The Hall
21. U Conn

Others receiving votes
X, MU

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2021, 03:18:52 PM »
Big East Poll Rankings as of November 22

AP
7. Nova
21. The Hall
23 .U Conn
25. X

Others Receiving Votes
MU

Coaches
7.Nova
20. The Hall
21. U Conn

Others receiving votes
X, MU

Marquette #32 in writers poll and # 36 Coaches Poll. Marquette NET 93

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2021, 03:21:04 PM »
Marquette #32 in writers poll and # 36 Coaches Poll. Marquette NET 93
That NET is from last year. Will be posting NET rankings once they are available for this season.
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2021, 03:24:32 PM »
That NET is from last year. Will be posting NET rankings once they are available for this season.

Thank You.
Understand they are not using RPI anymore and it is very early but
But CBS has Marquette’s RPI dropping from
#9 to #22 after the Saint Bonaventure loss.

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2021, 09:00:50 PM »
Seton Hall just lost to OSU, could hurt them next monday. Also hope we can win by 20+ against Northern Illinois because just looking at the New Hampshire and SIUE scores we don't look very good.
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2021, 09:42:11 PM »
Seton Hall just lost to OSU, could hurt them next monday. Also hope we can win by 20+ against Northern Illinois because just looking at the New Hampshire and SIUE scores we don't look very good.

I thought I read that the NET removed scoring margin from their algorithm.

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2021, 09:50:18 PM »
Seton Hall just lost to OSU, could hurt them next monday. Also hope we can win by 20+ against Northern Illinois because just looking at the New Hampshire and SIUE scores we don't look very good.
I think Shaka will play EE and Stevie for extended periods of time before he entertains the idea of winning margins.

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2021, 01:19:16 PM »
Big East Poll Rankings as of November 29,2021

AP
6. Nova
17. U-Conn
25. The Hall
Others Receiving Votes
MU, X
Coaches
6.Nova
17.U-Conn
Others Receiving Votes
The Hall, MU, X, Cooley & Company
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2021, 02:32:04 PM »

Understand they are not using RPI anymore and it is very early but
But CBS has Marquette’s RPI dropping from
#9 to #22 after the Saint Bonaventure loss.

Marquette #31 in Coaches Poll #34 Writers Poll

Marquette CBS RPI #17

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2021, 06:47:52 PM »
Marquette #31 in Coaches Poll #34 Writers Poll

Marquette CBS RPI #17

RPI?  Ha!   We haven’t won by enough and have lost by too much.  I’m thinking we should be about 150-200 range in the statistical rating system I’m putting together.  Wins and losses no matta, hey?  Just like free throws. 

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2021, 07:07:27 PM »
RPI?  Ha!   We haven’t won by enough and have lost by too much.  I’m thinking we should be about 150-200 range in the statistical rating system I’m putting together.  Wins and losses no matta, hey?  Just like free throws.

53 in the DR, hey?

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2021, 07:48:32 PM »
RPI?  Ha!   We haven’t won by enough and have lost by too much.  I’m thinking we should be about 150-200 range in the statistical rating system I’m putting together.  Wins and losses no matta, hey?  Just like free throws.

Agree RPI does not matter much anymore but after Marquette WI MU’s RPI is 19 and before Marquette UW MU was a 9 Seed in Joe Lunardi’s Bracketology.

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2021, 07:53:30 PM »
Agree RPI does not matter much anymore but after Marquette WI MU’s RPI is 19 and before Marquette UW MU was a 9 Seed in Joe Lunardi’s Bracketology.

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2021, 08:07:00 PM »
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Lol thank you haha but being we have no net yet. There is a reason multiple sources including CBS publicize it yet. Wish the net would come out soon. And Lunardi has been doing Bracketology for long time. True do not like ESPN as much these days but thought some might like some of it yet.

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2021, 08:11:47 PM »
Lol thank you haha but being we have no net yet. There is a reason multiple sources including CBS publicize it yet. Wish the net would come out soon. And Lunardi has been doing Bracketology for long time. True do not like ESPN as much these days but thought some might like some of it yet.

Better to use kenpom or Torvik filtered for current season only than RPI. The computer metrics more closely approximate NET. RPI is completely useless when it comes to the sport or prognostication. And while Lunardi was one of the first, he's far from the best. I'd look at Dave Omman, Kevin Pulsipher, or Delphi Bracketology if you want something that will look like that the Selection Committee will come up with.
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2021, 08:42:20 PM »
Better to use kenpom or Torvik filtered for current season only than RPI. The computer metrics more closely approximate NET. RPI is completely useless when it comes to the sport or prognostication. And while Lunardi was one of the first, he's far from the best. I'd look at Dave Omman, Kevin Pulsipher, or Delphi Bracketology if you want something that will look like that the Selection Committee will come up with.
Thanks just subscribed to kenpom.
Kenpom has Marquette at #78 Overall and #8 in the Big East currently.
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2021, 09:22:23 AM »
Thanks just subscribed to kenpom.
Kenpom has Marquette at #78 Overall and #8 in the Big East currently.

#78 in the just released NET rankings as well.  The NCAA must have finally subscribed to KenPom as well.

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2021, 09:26:12 AM »
Big East NET Rankings as of games of December 5, 2021
5      Villanova   
13      UConn   
21      Seton Hall   
30      Xavier   
37      Providence
78      Marquette   
89      Creighton   
94      DePaul   
108      St. John's
197      Butler   
247      Georgetown   
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2021, 10:27:14 AM »
It’s very early, but the NET is not in MU’s favor initially. Both Illinois and UCLA are Q2 games currently. Hoping they move up to Q1 by season’s end.

Georgetown and DePaul are essentially buy level games. Need all of those.

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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2021, 12:02:18 PM »
Haven't done a bracket yet, but my rough expectation for Marquette now is...

17-18 wins: NIT
19 wins: NCAA bubble, NIT or Dayton
20 wins: NCAA bubble, likely avoid Dayton
21+ wins: Comfortably in

On a straight game-by-game predictive metric, we're expected to win 14 games. Margin matters, but I'd imagine every win above that improves our NET by about 4.
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2021, 12:43:52 PM »
Haven't done a bracket yet, but my rough expectation for Marquette now is...

17-18 wins: NIT
19 wins: NCAA bubble, NIT or Dayton
20 wins: NCAA bubble, likely avoid Dayton
21+ wins: Comfortably in

On a straight game-by-game predictive metric, we're expected to win 14 games. Margin matters, but I'd imagine every win above that improves our NET by about 4.

I think if we can win 1 of @K State and UCLA, and go 10-10 in BE, Marquette will be in the tournament.   MAJOR ifs, but that is theoretically 18 wins with a first round BET exit, which you have as NIT. 
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2021, 12:45:31 PM »
Haven't done a bracket yet, but my rough expectation for Marquette now is...

17-18 wins: NIT
19 wins: NCAA bubble, NIT or Dayton
20 wins: NCAA bubble, likely avoid Dayton
21+ wins: Comfortably in

On a straight game-by-game predictive metric, we're expected to win 14 games. Margin matters, but I'd imagine every win above that improves our NET by about 4.

If this were a poll, my preference would be the 21+ wins thing!

Seriously, thanks for this handy-dandy guide. I'm really curious to see how we finish up the non-con part of our season this week.
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Re: Big East Poll and NET Rankings
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2021, 01:24:30 PM »
 Big East Poll Rankings December 6,2021

AP
6. Nova
15.U-Conn
23. The Hall
Others receiving votes :
X
Coaches
6. Nova
18. U-Conn
25. The Hall

Others Receiving Votes
X, Cooley & Company
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