2021-22 Big East Conference Results

[tower912]

SJU defense is squashing the Hoyas right now.

[Herman Cain]

SJU defense is squashing the Hoyas right now.

The Johnnies have a talent advantage in this game .

[Herman Cain]

Johnnies starting to pull away from Georgetown up 12.

[Uncle Rico]

Johnnies starting to pull away from Georgetown up 12.

Georgetown is terrible. 

Looked at KenPom page and they're underdogs in every Big East game this year.  They're 140th in KenPom behind Delaware and Morehead State and Colgate.  It won't happen, but they could go winless in conference

[fjm]

  It won't happen, but they could go winless in conference

🤞🏼Please not us
🤞🏼Please not us
🤞🏼Please not us

[Herman Cain]

Johnnies up 43-32 half

I am surprised that in the easy transfer era that Ewing was not able to stock the team with some competitive players .

[MU82]

I was in the "we probably won't win all the games we're supposed to" camp, but I would be surprised -- and more than a little disappointed -- if we don't go 6-0 against Georgetown, Butler and DePaul.

St. John's is tougher, but we might never have to play them at their place this season, and I like us beating 'em at home.

[panda]

Georgetown is terrible. 

Looked at KenPom page and they're underdogs in every Big East game this year.  They're 140th in KenPom behind Delaware and Morehead State and Colgate.  It won't happen, but they could go winless in conference

They've had some covid issues - BUT...They're horrible even at full strength. I can't believe the administration will continue to put up with this not offend someone within the Thompson circle.

[source?]

Johnnies up 43-32 half

I am surprised that in the easy transfer era that Ewing was not able to stock the team with some competitive players .

Ewing oversees a mass exodus of talent every other year or so. I have no faith that he is any more capable of using the new transfer rules any more effectively than the old rules or high school recruiting. Kids don't want to go there under him and those that do jump ship fast. He is in year 5 and will likely end it with an overall losing record and a sub .300 record in the Big East overall. For Georgetown's sake I hope he retires.

[PGsHeroes32]

I was in the "we probably won't win all the games we're supposed to" camp, but I would be surprised -- and more than a little disappointed -- if we don't go 6-0 against Georgetown, Butler and DePaul.

St. John's is tougher, but we might never have to play them at their place this season, and I like us beating 'em at home.

With the rebounding woes and past history, wouldnt be shocked if we lose at Depaul(though we should win).

the other 3 games with Butler and Gtown absolutely have to be won though.

And personally hope the SJU game doesnt even get rescheduled.

[source?]

They've had some covid issues - BUT...They're horrible even at full strength. I can't believe the administration will continue to put up with this not offend someone within the Thompson circle.

One thing that's changed, JT2 passed recently (RIP). Chatter on the Georgetown boards shows some hope that now that the AD doesn't have to walk into JT2's office and clear any moves with him they might be able to move on from his "tree." The coaches since JT2 have been:

Esherick-JT2 top assistant coach
JT3-obviously his son
Ewing-JT2's best player

[The Sultan]

Ewing oversees a mass exodus of talent every other year or so. I have no faith that he is any more capable of using the new transfer rules any more effectively than the old rules or high school recruiting. Kids don't want to go there under him and those that do jump ship fast. He is in year 5 and will likely end it with an overall losing record and a sub .300 record in the Big East overall. For Georgetown's sake I hope he retires.

He's not even 60. He's just gonna have to be fired.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Ewing oversees a mass exodus of talent every other year or so. I have no faith that he is any more capable of using the new transfer rules any more effectively than the old rules or high school recruiting. Kids don't want to go there under him and those that do jump ship fast. He is in year 5 and will likely end it with an overall losing record and a sub .300 record in the Big East overall. For Georgetown's sake I hope he retires.

Let's hope he sticks. Shaka is making inroads in the DMV.

[mileskishnish72]

Georgetown is terrible. 

Looked at KenPom page and they're underdogs in every Big East game this year.  They're 140th in KenPom behind Delaware and Morehead State and Colgate.  It won't happen, but they could go winless in conference

Another problem with Georgetown is attendance. It was a ghost town at the MU game, with more cheering for MU than for the home team. Yes, the students were on break. Yes, the virus has not been shut down, but hey are just not selling ducats with a team this poor. I'm sure if you look in the box, they will have reported all the season ticket holders (God love 'em) as being present, but to call the crowd (a misnomer in itself) sparse would be very kind. You have to wonder about the financial aspect of playing in a pro arena and how long they will be able to tolerate/afford such an arrangement. Tough times for one of the rocks of the old BE.

[Uncle Rico]

Another problem with Georgetown is attendance. It was a ghost town at the MU game, with more cheering for MU than for the home team. Yes, the students were on break. Yes, the virus has not been shut down, but hey are just not selling ducats with a team this poor. I'm sure if you look in the box, they will have reported all the season ticket holders (God love 'em) as being present, but to call the crowd (a misnomer in itself) sparse would be very kind. You have to wonder about the financial aspect of playing in a pro arena and how long they will be able to tolerate/afford such an arrangement. Tough times for one of the rocks of the old BE.

I'm reading Dana O'Neill's book on The Big East and Georgetown was like that before Big John there. 

[source?]

Another problem with Georgetown is attendance. It was a ghost town at the MU game, with more cheering for MU than for the home team. Yes, the students were on break. Yes, the virus has not been shut down, but hey are just not selling ducats with a team this poor. I'm sure if you look in the box, they will have reported all the season ticket holders (God love 'em) as being present, but to call the crowd (a misnomer in itself) sparse would be very kind. You have to wonder about the financial aspect of playing in a pro arena and how long they will be able to tolerate/afford such an arrangement. Tough times for one of the rocks of the old BE.

I'm not really sure what other choice they have as far as the arena goes. Their on-campus facility (McDonough Gymnasium) has a 2,200 capacity max and is 70 years old. Even with their poor attendance I'm sure they have more season ticket holders than that, at least most years. They have nowhere to build on-campus. When they built their practice facility in 2016 they had to repurpose a parking lot. Plus their neighborhood has no appetite for an on-campus arena.

[Scoop Snoop]

I think DFW Hoya said in another thread that attendance now averages about 5,600 vs. about 11,000 ten years ago. Ewing well may already have his exit plan in place for the end of the season and then he and Georgetown would avoid a mutually embarrassing divorce. If he does not go on his own, Georgetown is simply going to choose between displacing DePaul as perennial cellar dweller or firing Ewing.

[Herman Cain]

Johnnies are going to be a tough opponent for MU. Especially if the game is at Carnesecca  Arena

[MU82]

I'm not really sure what other choice they have as far as the arena goes. Their on-campus facility (McDonough Gymnasium) has a 2,200 capacity max and is 70 years old. Even with their poor attendance I'm sure they have more season ticket holders than that, at least most years. They have nowhere to build on-campus. When they built their practice facility in 2016 they had to repurpose a parking lot. Plus their neighborhood has no appetite for an on-campus arena.

We can give them the on-campus arena we're gonna build.

[Herman Cain]

I think DFW Hoya said in another thread that attendance now averages about 5,600 vs. about 11,000 ten years ago. Ewing well may already have his exit plan in place for the end of the season and then he and Georgetown would avoid a mutually embarrassing divorce. If he does not go on his own, Georgetown is simply going to choose between displacing DePaul as perennial cellar dweller or firing Ewing.

I would imagine Ewing could easily get another NBA assistant job.

[Herman Cain]

Local media starting to turn on Butler

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2022/01/16/butler-bulldogs-basketball-routed-villanova-big-east-laugher/9154362002/

[MU82]

Local media starting to turn on Butler

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2022/01/16/butler-bulldogs-basketball-routed-villanova-big-east-laugher/9154362002/

Sure, if stating facts about a horrible team is an example of "turning on" them.

[Scoop Snoop]

Johnnies are going to be a tough opponent for MU. Especially if the game is at Carnesecca  Arena

Agree, and that's why I am hoping the road game with them is not rescheduled. Thet are fluky and can beat Nova one week and then lose their next game with Georgetown. In other words, too much potential downside if they beat us as they may not end up with a very good record at the end of the season. I would rather see us play an OOC game in lieu of a rescheduled game in NY. Maybe VCU in Milwaukee? Actually, I would like a H&H with UVA so I could drive about one hour North and be at the game.

[Herman Cain]

Sure, if stating facts about a horrible team is an example of "turning on" them.

There were a few other articles behind a pay wall a bit more venomous . I just posted the accessible one.

[Galway Eagle]

Agree, and that's why I am hoping the road game with them is not rescheduled. Thet are fluky and can beat Nova one week and then lose their next game with Georgetown. In other words, too much potential downside if they beat us as they may not end up with a very good record at the end of the season. I would rather see us play an OOC game in lieu of a rescheduled game in NY. Maybe VCU in Milwaukee? Actually, I would like a H&H with UVA so I could drive about one hour North and be at the game.

Just get Gonzaga and be done with it. We promise them a national game in an NBA arena. They get to wipe the floor with us. Barely hurts our numbers