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Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 07, 2022, 08:48:33 AM
You're splitting hairs that can't be defined by trying to say there's a difference between "Chicago area" and "Chicagoland" I used MSA as it's an actual definable metric used to determine a (insert city) area. It's the only way to prove a point logically, otherwise I can use more hyperbole, "glad Marquette's in the Chicagoland area" wouldn't be able to drive to a weekday game otherwise!

The packers being Milwaukee's team is a different conversation. That's sports allegiance, if you look at a map of fandom most the Midwest roots for the Cubs. What I asked you is would you accept it as logical for someone to call you from Milwaukee area?

Dayton's different, the distance is considerably smaller, 56mi to city center. With the vast majority of that being shared suburbs.

Is a hot dog a sandwich

The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 07, 2022, 08:48:33 AM
What I asked you is would you accept it as logical for someone to call you from Milwaukee area?

As Equalizer says, it depends on your perspective.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Having lived about 18 months in LaSalle County, I can definitively say that the people down there don't see themselves as being from the Chicago area.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 07, 2022, 08:57:51 AM
As Equalizer says, it depends on your perspective.

Jeeze people from the Canadian area will go through crazy lengths to avoid a question.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2022, 09:04:37 AM
Having lived about 18 months in LaSalle County, I can definitively say that the people down there don't see themselves as being from the Chicago area.

Starved Rockers?

Galway Eagle

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!


JakeBarnes

Quote from: The Equalizer on January 07, 2022, 08:53:22 AM
This isn't even true for Illinois.  Plenty of White Sox and Cardinal fans.

Certainly Cards territory in LaSalle. Mostly south of I-80 is cards territory.

I still say Chicago should annex Evanston and Oak Park in a Houston-esque manner

But leave Naperville. They claim they're "Chicago" because they have an Uncle Julios and a Catch 35, but are 40 minutes away (also the hilton is the "Naperville-Chicago Hilton")

(The above is to keep the topic relevant to "realignment" talk...just not related to conferences)
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Galway Eagle

Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 07, 2022, 10:31:20 AM
Certainly Cards territory in LaSalle. Mostly south of I-80 is cards territory.

I still say Chicago should annex Evanston and Oak Park in a Houston-esque manner

But leave Naperville. They claim they're "Chicago" because they have an Uncle Julios and a Catch 35, but are 40 minutes away (also the hilton is the "Naperville-Chicago Hilton")

(The above is to keep the topic relevant to "realignment" talk...just not related to conferences)

While I agree it'd be beneficial for the city (would add Norridge, Harwood Heights, Cicero, Berwyn, Forest Park, & Evergreen park) the two you mentioned pay wayyyy too much in education taxes & police taxes plus have too much town pride to ever let themselves be annexed by the city. Meanwhile here in Forest Park I'd welcome sending my kids to a CPS magnet school over Proviso East
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 07, 2022, 10:49:21 AM
While I agree it'd be beneficial for the city (would add Norridge, Harwood Heights, Cicero, Berwyn, Forest Park, & Evergreen park) the two you mentioned pay wayyyy too much in education taxes & police taxes plus have too much town pride to ever let themselves be annexed by the city. Meanwhile here in Forest Park I'd welcome sending my kids to a CPS magnet school over Proviso East

100% agree on a practical level. My comment was really more an elaborate setup to crap on Naperville.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Galway Eagle

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Equalizer

Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 07, 2022, 10:31:20 AM
Certainly Cards territory in LaSalle. Mostly south of I-80 is cards territory.

I still say Chicago should annex Evanston and Oak Park in a Houston-esque manner

But leave Naperville. They claim they're "Chicago" because they have an Uncle Julios and a Catch 35, but are 40 minutes away (also the hilton is the "Naperville-Chicago Hilton")

(The above is to keep the topic relevant to "realignment" talk...just not related to conferences)

That Hilton is now a Doubletree, and is actually in Lisle.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: The Equalizer on January 07, 2022, 11:41:30 AM
That Hilton is now a Doubletree, and is actually in Lisle.

Whoa. It's even deeper den of lies than I thought.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

WhiteTrash

Naperville, IL hotels = "More conference realignment talk"

Good stuff here.  ;)

Galway Eagle

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 07, 2022, 12:35:33 PM
Naperville, IL hotels = "More conference realignment talk"

Good stuff here.  ;)

North Central College to the Midwest Conference!
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 07, 2022, 10:31:20 AM
Certainly Cards territory in LaSalle. Mostly south of I-80 is cards territory.

I still say Chicago should annex Evanston and Oak Park in a Houston-esque manner


pull a Louisville and Toronto and just absorb every suburb.

On January 1, 1998, Toronto was greatly enlarged, not through traditional annexations, but as an amalgamation of the Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto and its six lower-tier constituent municipalities; East York, Etobicoke, North York, Scarborough, York, and the original city itself. They were dissolved by an act of the Government of Ontario, and formed into a single-tier City of Toronto (colloquially dubbed the "megacity") replacing all six governments. The unified city became the fifth most populous city proper in North America, behind Mexico City, New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago. In 2013, it surpassed Chicago in population.[15]
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 07, 2022, 12:50:32 PM
pull a Louisville and Toronto and just absorb every suburb.

On January 1, 1998, Toronto was greatly enlarged, not through traditional annexations, but as an amalgamation of the Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto and its six lower-tier constituent municipalities; East York, Etobicoke, North York, Scarborough, York, and the original city itself. They were dissolved by an act of the Government of Ontario, and formed into a single-tier City of Toronto (colloquially dubbed the "megacity") replacing all six governments. The unified city became the fifth most populous city proper in North America, behind Mexico City, New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago. In 2013, it surpassed Chicago in population.[15]

How'd Hamilton avoid it?

Edit: nevermind didn't realize there was a space between the two thought they touched
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 07, 2022, 01:14:06 PM
How'd Hamilton avoid it?

Edit: nevermind didn't realize there was a space between the two thought they touched


So Hamilton is in the Toronto area, but not a suburb of Toronto? ;)
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 07, 2022, 01:23:17 PM

So Hamilton is in the Toronto area, but not a suburb of Toronto? ;)

Easy there I know you're from the Toronto area but this is literally an established defined location.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_and_Hamilton_Area

Center of Hamilton is 42mi away from the center of Toronto, it would be more akin to saying whether Gary is in the chicago area than Billy's post you were defending about some small town 92mi away from the western border of chicago
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Pakuni

Is Tampa in the Orlando area, or is Orlando in the Tampa area?

And is Philly part of the Baltimore region or would Baltimore be part of the Philadelphia area?

The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 07, 2022, 01:31:12 PM
Easy there I know you're from the Toronto area but this is literally an established defined location.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_and_Hamilton_Area

Center of Hamilton is 42mi away from the center of Toronto, it would be more akin to saying whether Gary is in the chicago area than Billy's post you were defending about some small town 92mi away from the western border of chicago

Miles don't exist in Canada.  Distance is but a mirage.
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tower912

Isn't that like 18 Tim Horton's away?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 07, 2022, 01:36:27 PM
Miles don't exist in Canada.  Distance is but a mirage.

Does that mean you're also in the Edmonton area as well?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Galway Eagle

Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2022, 01:38:52 PM
Isn't that like 18 Tim Horton's away?

What's the distance conversion from Tim Hortons to Dunkin Donuts?
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