collapse

* '23-'24 SOTG Tally


2023-24 Season SoG Tally
Kolek11
Ighodaro6
Jones, K.6
Mitchell2
Jones, S.1
Joplin1

'22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

* Big East Standings

* Recent Posts

[Paint Touches] Big East programs ranked by NBA representation by MU82
[Today at 07:00:36 AM]


So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/1/2024? by TAMU, Knower of Ball
[April 28, 2024, 11:58:04 PM]


2024 Transfer Portal by MU82
[April 28, 2024, 09:55:19 PM]


Banquet by Skatastrophy
[April 28, 2024, 06:50:03 PM]


Recruiting as of 3/15/24 by Juan Anderson's Mixtape
[April 28, 2024, 06:37:34 PM]


Big East 2024 Offseason by MU82
[April 28, 2024, 06:32:11 PM]


D-I Logo Quiz by SoCalEagle
[April 28, 2024, 01:23:01 PM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!

* Next up: The long cold summer

Marquette
Marquette

Open Practice

Date/Time: Oct 11, 2024 ???
TV: NA
Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

Author Topic: More conference realignment talk  (Read 328465 times)

panda

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 3428
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #750 on: January 07, 2022, 08:56:21 AM »
You're splitting hairs that can't be defined by trying to say there's a difference between "Chicago area" and "Chicagoland" I used MSA as it's an actual definable metric used to determine a (insert city) area. It's the only way to prove a point logically, otherwise I can use more hyperbole, "glad Marquette's in the Chicagoland area" wouldn't be able to drive to a weekday game otherwise!

The packers being Milwaukee's team is a different conversation. That's sports allegiance, if you look at a map of fandom most the Midwest roots for the Cubs. What I asked you is would you accept it as logical for someone to call you from Milwaukee area?

Dayton's different, the distance is considerably smaller, 56mi to city center. With the vast majority of that being shared suburbs.

Is a hot dog a sandwich

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 11974
  • “Good lord, you are an idiot.” - real chili 83
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #751 on: January 07, 2022, 08:57:51 AM »
What I asked you is would you accept it as logical for someone to call you from Milwaukee area?

As Equalizer says, it depends on your perspective.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

Pakuni

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10028
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #752 on: January 07, 2022, 09:04:37 AM »
Having lived about 18 months in LaSalle County, I can definitively say that the people down there don't see themselves as being from the Chicago area.

Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #753 on: January 07, 2022, 09:06:15 AM »
As Equalizer says, it depends on your perspective.

Jeeze people from the Canadian area will go through crazy lengths to avoid a question.
Maigh Eo for Sam

Dr. Blackheart

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 13061
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #754 on: January 07, 2022, 09:09:21 AM »
Having lived about 18 months in LaSalle County, I can definitively say that the people down there don't see themselves as being from the Chicago area.

Starved Rockers?

Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #755 on: January 07, 2022, 09:14:45 AM »
Maigh Eo for Sam

Pakuni

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10028
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #756 on: January 07, 2022, 09:20:23 AM »

JakeBarnes

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5582
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #757 on: January 07, 2022, 10:31:20 AM »
This isn't even true for Illinois.  Plenty of White Sox and Cardinal fans.

Certainly Cards territory in LaSalle. Mostly south of I-80 is cards territory.

I still say Chicago should annex Evanston and Oak Park in a Houston-esque manner

But leave Naperville. They claim they're "Chicago" because they have an Uncle Julios and a Catch 35, but are 40 minutes away (also the hilton is the "Naperville-Chicago Hilton")

(The above is to keep the topic relevant to "realignment" talk...just not related to conferences)
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #758 on: January 07, 2022, 10:49:21 AM »
Certainly Cards territory in LaSalle. Mostly south of I-80 is cards territory.

I still say Chicago should annex Evanston and Oak Park in a Houston-esque manner

But leave Naperville. They claim they're "Chicago" because they have an Uncle Julios and a Catch 35, but are 40 minutes away (also the hilton is the "Naperville-Chicago Hilton")

(The above is to keep the topic relevant to "realignment" talk...just not related to conferences)

While I agree it'd be beneficial for the city (would add Norridge, Harwood Heights, Cicero, Berwyn, Forest Park, & Evergreen park) the two you mentioned pay wayyyy too much in education taxes & police taxes plus have too much town pride to ever let themselves be annexed by the city. Meanwhile here in Forest Park I'd welcome sending my kids to a CPS magnet school over Proviso East
Maigh Eo for Sam

JakeBarnes

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5582
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #759 on: January 07, 2022, 10:58:22 AM »
While I agree it'd be beneficial for the city (would add Norridge, Harwood Heights, Cicero, Berwyn, Forest Park, & Evergreen park) the two you mentioned pay wayyyy too much in education taxes & police taxes plus have too much town pride to ever let themselves be annexed by the city. Meanwhile here in Forest Park I'd welcome sending my kids to a CPS magnet school over Proviso East

100% agree on a practical level. My comment was really more an elaborate setup to crap on Naperville.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #760 on: January 07, 2022, 11:30:43 AM »
an elaborate setup to crap on Naperville.

Which is always worth it.
Maigh Eo for Sam

The Equalizer

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1777
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #761 on: January 07, 2022, 11:41:30 AM »
Certainly Cards territory in LaSalle. Mostly south of I-80 is cards territory.

I still say Chicago should annex Evanston and Oak Park in a Houston-esque manner

But leave Naperville. They claim they're "Chicago" because they have an Uncle Julios and a Catch 35, but are 40 minutes away (also the hilton is the "Naperville-Chicago Hilton")

(The above is to keep the topic relevant to "realignment" talk...just not related to conferences)

That Hilton is now a Doubletree, and is actually in Lisle.

JakeBarnes

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5582
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #762 on: January 07, 2022, 11:50:21 AM »
That Hilton is now a Doubletree, and is actually in Lisle.

Whoa. It's even deeper den of lies than I thought.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


WhiteTrash

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2844
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #763 on: January 07, 2022, 12:35:33 PM »
Naperville, IL hotels = "More conference realignment talk"

Good stuff here.  ;)

Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #764 on: January 07, 2022, 12:39:03 PM »
Naperville, IL hotels = "More conference realignment talk"

Good stuff here.  ;)

North Central College to the Midwest Conference!
Maigh Eo for Sam

Billy Hoyle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2674
  • Retire #34
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #765 on: January 07, 2022, 12:50:32 PM »
Certainly Cards territory in LaSalle. Mostly south of I-80 is cards territory.

I still say Chicago should annex Evanston and Oak Park in a Houston-esque manner


pull a Louisville and Toronto and just absorb every suburb.

On January 1, 1998, Toronto was greatly enlarged, not through traditional annexations, but as an amalgamation of the Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto and its six lower-tier constituent municipalities; East York, Etobicoke, North York, Scarborough, York, and the original city itself. They were dissolved by an act of the Government of Ontario, and formed into a single-tier City of Toronto (colloquially dubbed the "megacity") replacing all six governments. The unified city became the fifth most populous city proper in North America, behind Mexico City, New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago. In 2013, it surpassed Chicago in population.[15]
“You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked.”

Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #766 on: January 07, 2022, 01:14:06 PM »
pull a Louisville and Toronto and just absorb every suburb.

On January 1, 1998, Toronto was greatly enlarged, not through traditional annexations, but as an amalgamation of the Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto and its six lower-tier constituent municipalities; East York, Etobicoke, North York, Scarborough, York, and the original city itself. They were dissolved by an act of the Government of Ontario, and formed into a single-tier City of Toronto (colloquially dubbed the "megacity") replacing all six governments. The unified city became the fifth most populous city proper in North America, behind Mexico City, New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago. In 2013, it surpassed Chicago in population.[15]

How'd Hamilton avoid it?

Edit: nevermind didn't realize there was a space between the two thought they touched
Maigh Eo for Sam

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 11974
  • “Good lord, you are an idiot.” - real chili 83
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #767 on: January 07, 2022, 01:23:17 PM »
How'd Hamilton avoid it?

Edit: nevermind didn't realize there was a space between the two thought they touched


So Hamilton is in the Toronto area, but not a suburb of Toronto? ;)
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #768 on: January 07, 2022, 01:31:12 PM »

So Hamilton is in the Toronto area, but not a suburb of Toronto? ;)

Easy there I know you're from the Toronto area but this is literally an established defined location.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_and_Hamilton_Area

Center of Hamilton is 42mi away from the center of Toronto, it would be more akin to saying whether Gary is in the chicago area than Billy's post you were defending about some small town 92mi away from the western border of chicago
Maigh Eo for Sam

Pakuni

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10028
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #769 on: January 07, 2022, 01:35:20 PM »
Is Tampa in the Orlando area, or is Orlando in the Tampa area?

And is Philly part of the Baltimore region or would Baltimore be part of the Philadelphia area?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 11974
  • “Good lord, you are an idiot.” - real chili 83
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #770 on: January 07, 2022, 01:36:27 PM »
Easy there I know you're from the Toronto area but this is literally an established defined location.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_and_Hamilton_Area

Center of Hamilton is 42mi away from the center of Toronto, it would be more akin to saying whether Gary is in the chicago area than Billy's post you were defending about some small town 92mi away from the western border of chicago

Miles don't exist in Canada.  Distance is but a mirage.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

tower912

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 23758
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #771 on: January 07, 2022, 01:38:52 PM »
Isn't that like 18 Tim Horton's away?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #772 on: January 07, 2022, 01:39:50 PM »
Miles don't exist in Canada.  Distance is but a mirage.

Does that mean you're also in the Edmonton area as well?
Maigh Eo for Sam

Galway Eagle

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10464
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #773 on: January 07, 2022, 01:40:31 PM »
Isn't that like 18 Tim Horton's away?

What's the distance conversion from Tim Hortons to Dunkin Donuts?
Maigh Eo for Sam

MarquetteMike1977

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1658
Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #774 on: January 07, 2022, 02:18:59 PM »
Murray State joining the MVC

 

feedback