2021-22 NBA Thread: The Bucks are Reigning Champs

[BM1090]

Boston will probably respond with a run here, but man that was fun from Steph.

[MuggsyB]

Boston will probably respond with a run here, but man that was fun from Steph.

He's amazing.

But they will have to get some buckets from Poole and Klay in the 4Q.

[MuggsyB]

Ouch. Boston with a ton of 2nd chance points.

[BM1090]

Lame. Bad time to get sloppy.

[MU82]

Somebody forgot to tell Robert Williams that there’s no room in today’s NBA for a big who can’t shoot.

[MuggsyB]

If Boston can play two bigs they have a major advantage.  I said that before the series began. They have gotten way, way, more easy baskets. 

[MuggsyB]

The Celtics just look like the better team.  Which sucks because they're inordinately unlikable. 

[Merit Matters]

Poor Steve Kerr

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

The Celtics just look like the better team.  Which sucks because they're inordinately unlikable.

Usually I’m all aboard the Boston sports hate train.

But any team with Draymond and Klay is incredibly unlikeable.

Klay especially, don’t understand the love he gets. Dude is incredibly annoying. Would love to see him play without Steph just for one full season, just to see him flounder.

[MuggsyB]

Usually I’m all aboard the Boston sports hate train.

But any team with Draymond and Klay is incredibly unlikeable.

Klay especially, don’t understand the love he gets. Dude is incredibly annoying. Would love to see him play without Steph just for one full season, just to see him flounder.

There's no question Green is a douchebag and punkish.  Klay isn't the same player. since his injury.  I guess my disdain for the entire Celtics team supercedes my issues with Draymond.

[jesmu84]

Poor Steve Kerr

Is this sarcastic? Do you not like Steve Kerr?

[Uncle Rico]

Is this sarcastic? Do you not like Steve Kerr?

Yes.  He hates people that call out injustice in the world, especially if they defend minorities

[wadesworld]

Is this sarcastic? Do you not like Steve Kerr?

He's trying to take Chico's guns away.  Next thing you know Chico won't be able to rev his pickup truck's diesel engine.

[MU82]

Yes.  He hates people that call out injustice in the world, especially if they defend minorities

Yessir.

[MuggsyB]

Statistically, Draymond Green's Game 3 may be the worst in history when you take into account he played 34 minutes.

[PGsHeroes32]

Statistically, Draymond Green's Game 3 may be the worst in history when you take into account he played 34 minutes.

I am going to venture a guess and say not even close

[lawdog77]

Statistically, Draymond Green's Game 3 may be the worst in history when you take into account he played 34 minutes.

John Starks is on line 1 for you.

[MU82]

I have repeatedly heard Draymond Green referred to as a lock for the Basketball Hall of Fame. And he probably will get in the Hall, even though he will have perhaps the most modest basic career stats for any HoFer ever: 9 ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg. Also, a .499 eFG%.

He obviously is a great defender, and he also has been the emotional and physical leader for the NBA's most dominant team of the last decade. That's why he's in the Hall conversation.

But he admittedly played uninspired basketball in Games 1 and 3 of these Finals -- can you imagine any of the truly great players in NBA history having to admit they weren't ready to roll for the effen Finals? -- and of course his lack of discipline likely cost GS the 2016 title.

It's an interesting discussion IMHO. Such a contrast to the MVP situation in baseball, where it seems to have become accepted now that the guys with the best offensive stats should be MVP even if their teams really, really suck. Here you have a guy with modest offensive stats but he is considered a Hall shoo-in because of the intangibles he brings to a championship-caliber team; he wouldn't even be considered if he had been toiling for the T-Wolves.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I think Draymond has gone from a solid player whose also a bit of a pest, to a guy who's act way exceeds his abilities.  Sure there are times where that can be helpful, but by and large he seems way overpaid for what he brings to the floor.

I wonder, with both Draymond and Klay on expiring contracts next year, if the Warriors will use this offseason to do some rebuilding. 

[Pakuni]

Poor Steve Kerr

I imagine he and his eight rings are doing OK.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

The conversation some coworkers and I were having the other day is would you rather have Joakim Noah or Draymond Green on your team.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The conversation some coworkers and I were having the other day is would you rather have Joakim Noah or Draymond Green on your team.

At their peaks...Green.

[wadesworld]

I have repeatedly heard Draymond Green referred to as a lock for the Basketball Hall of Fame. And he probably will get in the Hall, even though he will have perhaps the most modest basic career stats for any HoFer ever: 9 ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg. Also, a .499 eFG%.

Hall of Famer Ben Wallace: 5.7 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.3 apg, 47.5% eFG%.

The conversation some coworkers and I were having the other day is would you rather have Joakim Noah or Draymond Green on your team.

In today's game and at their peaks?  No question Draymond.  Much better defender in space, which is what you need today (not that Joakim would be a liability in that aspect, but Draymond is much better overall in that area).

[MuggsyB]

I have repeatedly heard Draymond Green referred to as a lock for the Basketball Hall of Fame. And he probably will get in the Hall, even though he will have perhaps the most modest basic career stats for any HoFer ever: 9 ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg. Also, a .499 eFG%.

He obviously is a great defender, and he also has been the emotional and physical leader for the NBA's most dominant team of the last decade. That's why he's in the Hall conversation.

But he admittedly played uninspired basketball in Games 1 and 3 of these Finals -- can you imagine any of the truly great players in NBA history having to admit they weren't ready to roll for the effen Finals? -- and of course his lack of discipline likely cost GS the 2016 title.

It's an interesting discussion IMHO. Such a contrast to the MVP situation in baseball, where it seems to have become accepted now that the guys with the best offensive stats should be MVP even if their teams really, really suck. Here you have a guy with modest offensive stats but he is considered a Hall shoo-in because of the intangibles he brings to a championship-caliber team; he wouldn't even be considered if he had been toiling for the T-Wolves.

The fact is Green was very good in G2 but he's been astronomically abysmal in their 2 losses.  He's actually been so bad that it begs the question why on earth he would be on the floor for 30+ mins in those games? 

And I'll tell you something else:  Golden State is a team essentially without a rebounder and the best perimeter shooter in history.  In other words his rebounding and assist stats should be high based on the personnel around him.   He's shooting 26% for the series (0-7 from distance) and basically isn't being guarded.  He also got torched by Jaylen Brown repeatedly in G3. 

The bottom line is GSW cannot win this series if he's an unmitigated disaster while he's on the floor.  It's simply not possible.  So, imo, what has to be done, if in the midst of the game Green is crapping the bed, you give guys like Kuminga or Juan a chance.  You know 5-6 min stretches and see what they can bring to the floor.  If they're worse than Green then I guess you have to stick with Looney, Porter, and Wiggins.

Draymond is a Hall of Famer based on the criteria but he seriously needs to get his head out of his ass.  He's killing this Warriors team right now on and off the floor.  We'll see if he shows up tonight.  If he can't cut it get someone else on the floor and truncate his minutes.

[tower912]

Coaches ride with the ones that brung em.     There is no way that Kerr curtails DG's minutes in game 4 of the finals on the road.     DG may do it himself by getting a couple of tech's, but Kerr will not.