Ability to attend games in-person next season

[WolfganghisKhan]

I understand your position.

I just don't want to have to prove my vaccination records going to a basketball game, concert, bar etc.

[naginiF]

I just don't want to have to prove my vaccination records going to a basketball game, concert, bar etc.

should your kids have to prove their records to attend school?

[WolfganghisKhan]

should your kids have to prove their records to attend school?

School is a little different than those don't ya think? Surprised you didn't bring up international travel as well.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

School is a little different than those don't ya think? Surprised you didn't bring up international travel as well.

Why? I think disease spreads just as easily in a bar as it does in a school.

[WolfganghisKhan]

Why? I think disease spreads just as easily in a bar as it does in a school.

If you can't see the difference between schools and the bar then we'll just have to agree to disagree here and move on.

[naginiF]

School is a little different than those don't ya think? Surprised you didn't bring up international travel as well.

The only reason you don't have to prove you've been vaccinated for measles, etc as an adult is because it was a requirement for you to be in school and therefore you are not a risk to spread the disease while out in the general public. IMO it should be no different for COVID.

[WolfganghisKhan]

The only reason you don't have to prove you've been vaccinated for measles, etc as an adult is because it was a requirement for you to be in school and therefore you are not a risk to spread the disease while out in the general public. IMO it should be no different for COVID.

And that's your opinion which I vehemently disagree with. Cheers.

[Hards Alumni]

If you can't see the difference between schools and the bar then we'll just have to agree to disagree here and move on.

So then do a better job making your point.  Unless your point is, "I don't wanna".

[WolfganghisKhan]

So then do a better job making your point.  Unless your point is, "I don't wanna".

So I can argue with a wall? No one's mind is changing on this issue based on a message board post. I'd rather waste my time arguing about whether Theo John is better than Davante.

[naginiF]

So I can argue with a wall? No one's mind is changing on this issue based on a message board post. I'd rather waste my time arguing about whether Theo John is better than Davante.

Both of them believe in vaccinations

[The Sultan]

And that's your opinion which I vehemently disagree with. Cheers.

Why?

[WolfganghisKhan]

Both of them believe in vaccinations

And so do I? What are you getting at? Getting my second shot at 4pm today.

[rocky_warrior]

I work directly with several medical professionals who will never take the vaccine.  I'm sure scoopers though have done the same amount of research.

I know some similar medical professionals.  And yes, I can say many scoopers are more knowledgeable than them, and have done more research (esp if you've been following the covid board). 

No one's mind is changing on this issue based on a message board post.

I disagree with this.  There are some on the fence, that don't interact with many vaccinated people.  So hearing stories (good or bad) can influence their decision.  Many posting here have been vaccinated, and don't have any horror stories, so when I see someone post "I have seen much more severe reactions to the vaccination (healthy individuals), than from those who have contracted the virus (also healthy individuals). " - I feel the need to refute that badly informed opinion.

[naginiF]

And so do I? What are you getting at? Getting my second shot at 4pm today.

I should have said "both are intelligent men and believe we should all get vaccinated in order to be in close contact with others" (obviously I don't know that but it was a joke bout the T vs D debate)

My larger point is that you are OK creating an environment where conspiracy theorists 'research' is as valid as the science and allowing them to endanger themselves and the general population. And being OK with allowing misguided/ill informed/etc people to put others at risk during a pandemic which has killed 550K in the US to date is what's at issue.

[WolfganghisKhan]

I should have said "both are intelligent men and believe we should all get vaccinated in order to be in close contact with others" (obviously I don't know that but it was a joke bout the T vs D debate)

My larger point is that you are OK creating an environment where conspiracy theorists 'research' is as valid as the science and allowing them to endanger themselves and the general population. And being OK with allowing misguided/ill informed/etc people to put others at risk during a pandemic which has killed 550K in the US to date is what's at issue.

HUH. You got all that from me not wanting to show my vaccination status at the bar. Take care.

[Golden Avalanche]

I just don't want to have to prove my vaccination records going to a basketball game, concert, bar etc.

I flash my passport/driving license to enter a drinking establishment. I flash my insurance card to receive medical care. I flash my membership card to enter a gym. I flash a ticket in hand to enter a sporting event.

What's so hard about flashing your vaccine card along with those entry forms?

[TallTitan34]

If I'm playing Russian roulette with a 4/100 loaded gun vs (at this point) 6/7,000,000 non lethal bullets. I know which I use to play.

This.

Math.

[MUDPT]

I've been in 250+ patient rooms with COVID+ people. You don't want COVID, don't want to cheat COVID. Get the vaccine to protect yourself, your spouses and your kids. There is nothing more that you can do for the good old USA in the next month then go to your local Walgreens for 2 minutes and have them stick a needle in you.

[cheebs09]

I know some similar medical professionals.  And yes, I can say many scoopers are more knowledgeable than them, and have done more research (esp if you've been following the covid board). 

I disagree with this.  There are some on the fence, that don't interact with many vaccinated people.  So hearing stories (good or bad) can influence their decision.  Many posting here have been vaccinated, and don't have any horror stories, so when I see someone post "I have seen much more severe reactions to the vaccination (healthy individuals), than from those who have contracted the virus (also healthy individuals). " - I feel the need to refute that badly informed opinion.

I agree. I was hesitant to get the vaccine when it was talked about last fall. I wasn't sure what kind of approval steps may have been skipped.

Reading opinions on here (as well as other places), really made me comfortable and made me want to get it the first chance I could. As a non-science person, the medical language is a bit daunting, but hearing what it means in layman's terms really helped me jump on board.

[Boozemon Barro]

I flash my passport/driving license to enter a drinking establishment. I flash my insurance card to receive medical care. I flash my membership card to enter a gym. I flash a ticket in hand to enter a sporting event.

What's so hard about flashing your vaccine card along with those entry forms?

Same goes for voting.

[tower912]

I've been in 250+ patient rooms with COVID+ people. You don't want COVID, don't want to cheat COVID. Get the vaccine to protect yourself, your spouses and your kids. There is nothing more that you can do for the good old USA in the next month then go to your local Walgreens for 2 minutes and have them stick a needle in you.

Testify.   

But you speaking truth will not impact those who do not want to hear the truth.   

[Galway Eagle]

Same goes for voting.

Medical care is not a constitutional right, drinking at a private establishment is not a constitutional right, going to a gym is not a constitutional right, going to a sporting event is not a constitutional right.

You know what is a constitutional right?

[Boozemon Barro]

Medical care is not a constitutional right, drinking at a private establishment is not a constitutional right, going to a gym is not a constitutional right, going to a sporting event is not a constitutional right.

You know what is a constitutional right?

Would you argue that someone shouldn't need an ID to purchase a gun?

[GooooMarquette]

Maybe inability was the incorrect word.  Unable to obtain for some medical reason.

If 100% of the eligible people take the shot as soon as they can, the <1% who really can't take it for medical reasons would be safe enough to attend with a negligible risk of spread.

[Galway Eagle]

Would you argue that someone shouldn't need an ID to purchase a gun?

Not gonna get deep into this argument but at least that's a comparable point unlike the other ones.