Another day ... / mass shooting

[lawdog77]

"I was stunned to learn that a firearm in the home is many times more likely to be used to harm someone who lives there than to protect someone who lives there," said nobody who's paying attention.

That's not at all what I was saying. I actually figured there would be more spousal homicide than suicide, couple that with the mass shootings, and gang violence, and it shows me that there is huge mental health issue. At the bare minimum, Red Flag laws need to be stronger, and enforced..

[MU82]

Multiple people killed in San Jose shooting

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/05/26/active-shooter-response-underway-near-san-jose-vta-light-rail-yard/

You know what this means ... now is not the time to talk about common-sense gun laws that 80-90% of Americans want.

Nope, now's the time for brats and pears.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

That's not at all what I was saying. I actually figured there would be more spousal homicide than suicide, couple that with the mass shootings, and gang violence, and it shows me that there is huge mental health issue. At the bare minimum, Red Flag laws need to be stronger, and enforced..

Don't you think there is also a, you know, gun issue?

[jesmu84]

That's not at all what I was saying. I actually figured there would be more spousal homicide than suicide, couple that with the mass shootings, and gang violence, and it shows me that there is huge mental health issue. At the bare minimum, Red Flag laws need to be stronger, and enforced..

Are mental health issues more prevalent in the US than other first world nations?

[lawdog77]

Are mental health issues more prevalent in the US than other first world nations?

yes, treatment is horrible as well, especially for the underserved.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/may/mental-health-conditions-substance-use-comparing-us-other-countries

[jesmu84]

yes, treatment is horrible as well, especially for the underserved.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/may/mental-health-conditions-substance-use-comparing-us-other-countries

So we are different than others because of mental health and increased access to guns while also have lack of support.

But we, as a society, refuse to seriously address any of the issues.

Sweet

[Pakuni]

That's not at all what I was saying. I actually figured there would be more spousal homicide than suicide, couple that with the mass shootings, and gang violence, and it shows me that there is huge mental health issue. At the bare minimum, Red Flag laws need to be stronger, and enforced..

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest you were saying that.
I was just pointing out the facts about what most often happens when guns are kept in the home "for protection."

[lawdog77]

So we are different than others because of mental health and increased access to guns while also have lack of support.

But we, as a society, refuse to seriously address any of the issues.

Sweet

Yep, we're on the same page. It's a perfect storm.

[lawdog77]

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest you were saying that.
I was just pointing out the facts about what most often happens when guns are kept in the home "for protection."

No worries, I agree with you. I have never owned a gun.

[rocket surgeon]

No, it's centuries of America failing to come to terms with its original sin.

i'm sure you already knew this, but just for a little refresher-centuries of "america failing to come to terms??  we righted a very terrible wrong and outlawed it by enacting the 13th amendment.   but a nasty little secret?   it's going on in china full blast as we speak while nothing is being done.  unfortunately dwade and a number of other african american players don't seem to mind...shame on these guys.  oh, you knew that too?

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/native-americans-who-owned-slaves/


"While many Native American nations allowed white slaves to earn their freedom through intermarriage, the tribes also had strict laws forbidding any intermarriage between a Native and a black slave, often punishing those who married their slaves with banishment from the tribe.

The Native slaveowners could also be horrifyingly brutal towards their black slaves"

[buckchuckler]

You know what this means ... now is not the time to talk about common-sense gun laws that 80-90% of Americans want.

I doubt this is true.  I don't think you could get 80-90% of Americans to agree the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

[mu_hilltopper]

Flags are at half-staff for the 6th time since Biden took office in January .. for 5 mass casualty events.

Brutal.

[MU82]

i'm sure you already knew this, but just for a little refresher-centuries of "america failing to come to terms??  we righted a very terrible wrong and outlawed it by enacting the 13th amendment.   but a nasty little secret?   it's going on in china full blast as we speak while nothing is being done.  unfortunately dwade and a number of other african american players don't seem to mind...shame on these guys.  oh, you knew that too?

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/native-americans-who-owned-slaves/


"While many Native American nations allowed white slaves to earn their freedom through intermarriage, the tribes also had strict laws forbidding any intermarriage between a Native and a black slave, often punishing those who married their slaves with banishment from the tribe.

The Native slaveowners could also be horrifyingly brutal towards their black slaves"

were you born a white victim, or have you just dedicated your life to white victimhood?

[MU82]

San Jose shooter: another angry, middle-aged, white d-bag with easy access to guns.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/05/27/samuel-cassidy-gunman-vta-rail-yard-san-jose/

Which of course means it's time to try to steer the conversation to Black-on-Black violence in Chicago.

[rocket surgeon]

were you born a white victim, or have you just dedicated your life to white victimhood?

there's nothing here about me.  if anyone is the victim it's rio, but he needs to know the unfortunate commonality of slavery and the history of all men and societies.  the difference between us and the rest is that we saw slavery and human rights abuses were wrong and outlawed them  some people and other countries have not.  we are not the bad people in this equation.  were we perfect? not in the least, but we are constantly evolving to do the right thing.  how about if we continue to denounce slavery in all of it's forms everywhere.  if we do not denounce it, we advocate for it

 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

there's nothing here about me.  if anyone is the victim it's rio, but he needs to know the unfortunate commonality of slavery and the history of all men and societies.

No other society had anything to the level of the Atlantic Triangular Slave trade.

the difference between us and the rest is that we saw slavery and human rights abuses were wrong and outlawed them  some people and other countries have not. 

We were one of the last major countries to outlaw it. And one of (the only?) to have legalized segregation of Whites and Blacks after outlawing it

how about if we continue to denounce slavery in all of it's forms everywhere.  if we do not denounce it, we advocate for it

 

Agreed. Now I trust you've stopped buying all products made in China and have divested from all companies that do business in China,  right?  I also trust that you don't watch porn anymore as the industry is massively supported by sexual slavery?

[The Sultan]

We were one of the last major countries to outlaw it. And one of (the only?) to have legalized segregation of Whites and Blacks after outlawing it

And I am pretty sure that we are the only country that had a significant portion of its citizenry take up an armed insurrection that killed hundreds of thousands of people in an attempt to save it.

The idea that the US was some sort of "moral leader" in fighting slavery shows a complete ignorance of history.  We were fighting it for decades, and then still institutionalized racist laws and policies afterwards.

[MU82]

there's nothing here about me.  if anyone is the victim it's rio, but he needs to know the unfortunate commonality of slavery and the history of all men and societies.  the difference between us and the rest is that we saw slavery and human rights abuses were wrong and outlawed them  some people and other countries have not.  we are not the bad people in this equation.  were we perfect? not in the least, but we are constantly evolving to do the right thing.  how about if we continue to denounce slavery in all of it's forms everywhere.  if we do not denounce it, we advocate for it

See TAMU's and Sultan's comments. We all get that you simply don't get it. Your new screen name proves it, too.

Your commenting history shows you are a privileged, aggrieved, victimized white man. Maybe you can contribute to Central Park Karen's lawsuit, because she's right up your alley!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-woman-who-called-911-black-man-last-year-central-n1268679

Anyhoo ... back to mass shootings. Is your solution to create a federal law matching Texas' new "Everybody Gets An Unlicensed Gun!" policy?

[Galway Eagle]

We were one of the last major countries to outlaw it. And one of (the only?) to have legalized segregation of Whites and Blacks after outlawing it

South Africa

[buckchuckler]

nm

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

South Africa

Fair,  I think they qualify as a major country now though not at the time of the US abolishing slavery

[MU82]

My town, a stretch of highway I'm on several times a week ...

An irate driver fired a bullet, shattering glass in another driver's vehicle on I-485, Matthews police said.

The victim told police that the other driver shot out his windows on the I-485 Outer Loop between Providence Road and East John Street just before noon Tuesday, according to a police news release.

The bullet missed the victim, but the driver suffered minor injuries from the shattered glass, police said.

"The preliminary investigation of this case indicates that this stemmed from an incident of road rage," according to the release.

The victim described the shooter as a 30- to 40-year-old, clean-shaven white man with "reddish hair."

Police were searching for a vehicle believed to have been involved in the encounter — a white or silver 1996-2002 model Toyota 4Runner SUV with a North Carolina registration plate.

If only the victim had a gun, he could have shot back. What fun that would have been!

[MU82]

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) -- The gunman who killed nine of his co-workers at a California rail yard had stockpiled weapons and ammunition at his home before setting the house on fire to coincide with the bloodshed at the workplace he seethed about for years, authorities said Friday.

Investigators found 12 guns and 25,000 rounds of ammunition at Samuel James Cassidy's house, the Santa Clara County sheriff's office said in a news release. They also turned up multiple cans of gasoline and suspected Molotov cocktails.

The cache at the home Cassidy burned using a timer or slow-burn device was on top of the three 9mm handguns he brought Wednesday to the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority in San Jose, authorities said. He also had 32 high-capacity magazines, some with 12 rounds.

The guns he used to open fire on his co-workers appear to be legal, officials said. They have not said how he obtained them.

Well of course they were legal! Just about any American can buy any number of guns and any amount of ammunition anytime he or she wants to. Because this is exactly what our founding fathers intended. Freedom!

[Jockey]

Guns are available to all because republicans want them available to all. That is not a partisan statement. It is a true statement.

Don't ever believe the polls that show Rs want background checks, etc. it is not true.

[JWags85]

Guns are available to all because republicans want them available to all. That is not a partisan statement. It is a true statement.

Don't ever believe the polls that show Rs want background checks, etc. it is not true.

So polls, that show Rs believing things you think are reprehensible, are legitimate, cause the numbers are what they are.  But if they don't, the polls aren't true.  Got it.