Another day ... / mass shooting

[lawdog77]

But once again, even 1121 is such an incredibly small map on the blimp.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

It's not a fact it's a BS right wing talking point that's also having negative effects on the tourism industry in Chicago.

Edit: Deleted the rest of my post. Because there's no point.

Hurting tourism?  That's what you're worried about?

When the Trib has a "heat map" https://www.chicagotribune.com/data/ct-shooting-victims-map-charts-htmlstory.html and it shows shootings all over the city, it's more than a tourism problem.

[Galway Eagle]

Hurting tourism?  That's what you're worried about?

When the Trib has a "heat map" https://www.chicagotribune.com/data/ct-shooting-victims-map-charts-htmlstory.html and it shows shootings all over the city, it's more than a tourism problem.

You pay for the tribune? Don't you live in Madison?

[lawdog77]

Hurting tourism?  That's what you're worried about?

When the Trib has a "heat map" https://www.chicagotribune.com/data/ct-shooting-victims-map-charts-htmlstory.html and it shows shootings all over the city, it's more than a tourism problem.

Just my opinion, gangs and racial inequality have been occurring for centuries. There is no quick fix. Mass shootings are a relatively new phenomenon and may have a quicker fix, so it grabs the headlines. And in my opinion, the far right who want to equate the two seem to yell the loudest when lefts/moderates try to enact plans to lessen the inequalities that drive some people into gangs.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

You pay for the tribune? Don't you live in Madison?

I grew up in the suburbs, & my dad, uncle and grandpa all worked for the trib.

I don't pay for it, saw this reporting somewhere.

[Galway Eagle]

I grew up in the suburbs, & my dad, uncle and grandpa all worked for the trib.

I don't pay for it, saw this reporting somewhere.

Gotcha. Well two things

1. I don't need a lecture on shootings in Chicago. Hell I'm living just outside the city now and have had three in the past month literally down the street, one next door to the bar I was at. I'd still call my area safe overall with increasing property value, and a ton of rehabs/new construction.

2. I find this map not being a heat map gives more context to the actual disparity of where they are. Seems pretty clear to me that my tip of "avoid these two spots, is dead on. Outside of that Chicago's extremely safe for the size remaining. It's still a city and there will be violence but it's actually pretty astonishing how low the shootings around once you get out of the west side and a few south neighborhoods.

https://heyjackass.com/

[#UnleashSean]

I do not think it means what you think it means.

Its a rickyism 

[#UnleashSean]

It's not a fact it's a BS right wing talking point that's also having negative effects on the tourism industry in Chicago.

Edit: Deleted the rest of my post. Because there's no point.

You literally said yourself "avoid parts of the west and most of the south and youll be fine". I have a very select few places I would feel unsafe in Milwaukee. You're telling me to avoid entire parts of a city and then on another thread saying how its a right wing plot. What?

[Galway Eagle]

You literally said yourself "avoid parts of the west and most of the south and youll be fine". I have a very select few places I would feel unsafe in Milwaukee. You're telling me to avoid entire parts of a city and then on another thread saying how its a right wing plot. What?

Going to make this simple:

The right wing talking point: Chicago's a war zone, it's more dangerous than Afghanistan.

The reality: avoid unsafe neighborhoods.

It's plain and simple. Then you're trying to compare gang violence to mass shootings? I mean it comes off callus but if a GD kills a LK or VL or visa versa then good. one less gang member out there. I'll focus on improving the neighborhood adjacent to those, hoping that brings new business and opportunity to the area so new would be recruits dont join to replace the lost ones. But compare that shooting to a mentally disturbed person shooting up a high school, or a black church, or a movie theatre? That's not a fair comparison.

[Pakuni]

Chicago ranks 73rd in violent crimes per capita.
Milwaukee ranks 23rd.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous

[jesmu84]

Shoot guess I could have said 2020. Where there was 769. Again mass shootings are such a small portion of gun violence that you all do a disservice. If you want to solve the overall problem, look at the overall problem.

Good luck selling the "overall problem". It's all economic related.

[YaBlueIt]

"Criminals don't follow laws and will end up getting guns anyway, so how are legal restrictions going to solve anything?"

"Ok then, then let's decriminalize drugs so we can dismantle organized crime and drug trafficking."

"..."

[MU82]

And another ...

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/mass-shooting-orange-business-office-complex-california/2563778/?utm_term=OZY&utm_campaign=pdb&utm_content=Thursday_04.01.21&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email

[tower912]

Pedophiles are just going to look at kiddie porn anyway, so why make it illegal?

[muwarrior69]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/3/13/22328797/chicago-weekend-shootings-march-12-15-gun-violence-crime

Only difference is that they died one at a time.

[MU82]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/3/13/22328797/chicago-weekend-shootings-march-12-15-gun-violence-crime

Only difference is that they died one at a time.

Outstanding goalpost-shifting.

Don't worry. We'll never have the kind of meaningful, common-sense gun regulations that even a majority of NRA members say they want.

This is 'Murica, dammit! We need MORE guns!!

[TSmith34, Inc.]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/3/13/22328797/chicago-weekend-shootings-march-12-15-gun-violence-crime

Only difference is that they died one at a time.

Which is why gun control makes sense for reducing both mass shootings and individual shootings, don't you agree?

[Pakuni]

Pedophiles are just going to look at kiddie porn anyway, so why make it illegal?

If you impose drunk driving laws, only outlaws will drive drunk.

[MU82]

Though not a mass killing, this is terrible ...

Gunfire erupted yesterday at the U.S. Capitol after a man rammed a car into police officers, killing one before being fatally shot. William “Billy” Evans was fatally struck at a checkpoint, becoming the fourth Capitol Police officer to die since the Jan. 6 Capitol riot began. Police said the driver of the car tried to attack them with a knife before they killed him. While the motive isn’t clear, Facebook posts by the reported attacker, Noah Green, 25, from Indiana, support Louis Farrakhan’s Black separatist Nation of Islam, and said he was unemployed and warned of the “last days of our world.”

I feel terrible for the slain officer's family. Thank goodness the insane killer did not have a gun that could fire off 100 rounds in seconds, or else it would have been a bloodbath.

[4everwarriors]

Yeah, why aren't we hearing more about the Louis Farrakhan following ass hole who rammed his car into police officers at the Capitol? Virtually nothing from the media. Like I said, when you're chit, you're chit, aina?

[MuggsyB]

Yeah, why aren't we hearing more about the Louis Farrakhan following ass hole who rammed his car into police officers at the Capitol? Virtually nothing from the media. Like I said, when you're chit, you're chit, aina?

Almost nothing from the mainstream media on the killer's background nor was there anything about the  disgusting Uber driver murder in DC last week.  That's the way it works with the far-left when they can't manipulate a narrative and play identity politics.  We see it time and time again. 

[Uncle Rico]

Yeah, why aren't we hearing more about the Louis Farrakhan following ass hole who rammed his car into police officers at the Capitol? Virtually nothing from the media. Like I said, when you're chit, you're chit, aina?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/02/politics/us-capitol-incident/index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/02/us/us-capitol-police-attack.amp.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1262917

[Uncle Rico]

Almost nothing from the mainstream media on the killer's background nor was there anything about the  disgusting Uber driver murder in DC last week.  That's the way it works with the far-left when they can't manipulate a narrative and play identity politics.  We see it time and time again.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/us-capitol-police-officer-killed-attack-car-ramming-barricade/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-04-02/us-capitol-security-threat-officer%3f_amp=true

All of these stories have background details of the suspect

[MuggsyB]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/us-capitol-police-officer-killed-attack-car-ramming-barricade/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-04-02/us-capitol-security-threat-officer%3f_amp=true

All of these stories have background details of the suspect

That's not the point.  Imagine the coverage if the dynamics were the opposite. 

[Uncle Rico]

That's not the point.  Imagine the coverage if the dynamics were the opposite.

Are you saying the coverage was unfair when a mob stormed the Capitol and a police office died?  Is that the problem here?