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lawdog77

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 20, 2021, 08:36:37 AM
Miller Kopp to Indiana

Whoever said that Indiana made a poor hiring decision needs to be put on public display for ridicule.
There is word he is changing his name from Woodson to Wooden.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: lawdog77 on April 20, 2021, 09:23:39 AM
There is word he is changing his name from Woodson to Wooden.

He could go ancient Viking and call himself Woodenson
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Tha Hound

#927
So since we've been told we aren't done, anybody got any morsels of info on current targets?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Tha Hound on April 20, 2021, 09:41:52 AM
So since we've been told we agent done, anybody got any morsels of info on current targets?

I don't know if that was on purpose or not but well done.
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Warrior Code

I'll never get over the fact that we couldn't bring a kid named MILLER KOPP to Milwaukee, smh
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Herman Cain

Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 20, 2021, 09:25:20 AM
He could go ancient Viking and call himself Woodenson
I think that would be Woodensen
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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Pakuni

Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 20, 2021, 09:25:20 AM
He could go ancient Viking and call himself Woodenson

If he went with Wooderson, it would be "Alright, alright, alright."

BCHoopster

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2021, 12:37:30 PM
Marquette expressing interest in Oklahoma transfer Kur Kuath.

https://twitter.com/dushawnlondon1/status/1384543539636412416?s=21

This would be a interesting addition, a center who has some offense but more of a defensive presence which MU has no one right now.  I am one who does not
like to cut players.  2 of the 3 are working hard right now to be part of the team.  Elliott is always hurt, time to tell him to move on.  He has no luck.  If they get one
more big, I have to believe Garcia wants to move on.  Shaka will have some tough decisions, since I do not see Garcia making a decision till July.

Pakuni

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 20, 2021, 01:24:33 PM
This would be a interesting addition, a center who has some offense but more of a defensive presence which MU has no one right now.  I am one who does not
like to cut players.  2 of the 3 are working hard right now to be part of the team.  Elliott is always hurt, time to tell him to move on.  He has no luck.  If they get one
more big, I have to believe Garcia wants to move on.  Shaka will have some tough decisions, since I do not see Garcia making a decision till July.

"Cutting" players who have been with the program for four years and worked hard to represent the program well on and off the court, would be a truly sh*tty way for Shaka to begin his tenure.

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on April 20, 2021, 02:21:16 PM
"Cutting" players who have been with the program for four years and worked hard to represent the program well on and off the court, would be a truly sh*tty way for Shaka to begin his tenure.

Meh.

dw3dw3dw3

I know this has been asked elsewhere but I haven't seen a definitive response. Can Greg technically be a 5th year player and not count towards limit? It's assumed he had a redshirt year, but what are the actual triggers that let you play an extra year, do you have to apply?

onepost

Quote from: Pakuni on April 20, 2021, 02:21:16 PM
"Cutting" players who have been with the program for four years and worked hard to represent the program well on and off the court, would be a truly sh*tty way for Shaka to begin his tenure.

Not to say he's going down this road, but this is high major college basketball and scholarships are a year-by-year arrangement.  Goes both ways.  Just like Theo can head off to Duke, Symir can head off to Syracuse, Koby can head off to Weber State, Jamal can head off to Oakland, Shaka in turn owes these guys nothing.  And if guys like Perez or Akanno or Greg are encouraged to find a new landing spot, then this is a great year to do so since they won't have to sit at all.

"Shitty way for Shaka to begin his tenure" is being far too dramatic.  This is a business, and whatever Shaka needs to do to put out the best team possible (legally), I'm good with.

McLintock

I express no opinion on cutting players but if you've given a player 4 years of scholarship I don't see how you are doing anything wrong by not providing them with a 5th. 

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Pakuni on April 20, 2021, 02:21:16 PM
"Cutting" players who have been with the program for four years and worked hard to represent the program well on and off the court, would be a truly sh*tty way for Shaka to begin his tenure.

These are high level D1 athletes.  Such is life.  Do you feel bad for every HS kid that gets cut from his varsity team?  It sucks - but its real life.  Every kid on Marquette will find a landing spot on a D1 team somewhere else if it so happens that space needs to be made.

Take the best players you can get your hands on, and if that means some guys at the end of the roster lose their spot, so be it.  This isn't teeball. 
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The Sultan

I can't get really hung up about "cutting" players when they don't have to sit a year. 
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Skip Intro

Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on April 20, 2021, 02:31:38 PM
I know this has been asked elsewhere but I haven't seen a definitive response. Can Greg technically be a 5th year player and not count towards limit? It's assumed he had a redshirt year, but what are the actual triggers that let you play an extra year, do you have to apply?

He (and MU) could get a waiver to allow for this to be his Covid year, I believe.  I'm assuming, though, that he'd be done after this season and wouldn't get the extra year of eligibility, regardless of whether he was on scholarship or not. 

Herman Cain

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 20, 2021, 01:24:33 PM
This would be a interesting addition, a center who has some offense but more of a defensive presence which MU has no one right now.  I am one who does not
like to cut players.  2 of the 3 are working hard right now to be part of the team.  Elliott is always hurt, time to tell him to move on.  He has no luck.  If they get one
more big, I have to believe Garcia wants to move on.  Shaka will have some tough decisions, since I do not see Garcia making a decision till July.
Kuath has a back problem.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 20, 2021, 03:49:53 PM
I can't get really hung up about "cutting" players when they don't have to sit a year.

They still have to find a new school, move who knows how far, leave behind their academic work (and perhaps even credits), leave behind friendships, etc., all involuntarily.
It's not nothing.
It's one thing for a coach to come in from day one and tell a player he doesn't fit into his scheme, will  struggle to earn playing time and might want to consider other options. That's fair game. It's another to wait a month or more after you've been hired, encourage the kid to participate workouts and activities as part of the team, and then pull the rug out from under him when a shinier object comes along.
That's what some are talking about doing.

The Sultan

Well my guess is that the truth lies in the middle, and neither of us really know what that is.
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We R Final Four

Quote from: Pakuni on April 20, 2021, 04:22:44 PM
They still have to find a new school, move who knows how far, leave behind their academic work (and perhaps even credits), leave behind friendships, etc., all involuntarily.
It's not nothing.
It's one thing for a coach to come in from day one and tell a player he doesn't fit into his scheme, will  struggle to earn playing time and might want to consider other options. That's fair game. It's another to wait a month or more after you've been hired, encourage the kid to participate workouts and activities as part of the team, and then pull the rug out from under him when a shinier object comes along.
That's what some are talking about doing.
Perhaps SS told them look.....we are actively pursuing additional players. If the players were have our eye on choose MU..we will take them. If that is the case, we will do everything in our power to find a new an appropriate home for you. If the players we are interested in don't come to campus, you can stay. In the meantime, I encourage you to continue to practice with the team and stay in shape because you are playing next year, whether it be here or somewhere else.
I'm quite certain isn't feeding these guys bullshit just to pull the rug out from under them.
It's a strange year, but I certainly hope that SS is overturning every stone to get the best players he can to MU—without having to sit a year.

Viper

Quote from: onepostdavis on April 20, 2021, 02:36:55 PM
Not to say he's going down this road, but this is high major college basketball and scholarships are a year-by-year arrangement.  Goes both ways.  Just like Theo can head off to Duke, Symir can head off to Syracuse, Koby can head off to Weber State, Jamal can head off to Oakland, Shaka in turn owes these guys nothing.  And if guys like Perez or Akanno or Greg are encouraged to find a new landing spot, then this is a great year to do so since they won't have to sit at all.

"crapty way for Shaka to begin his tenure" is being far too dramatic.  This is a business, and whatever Shaka needs to do to put out the best team possible (legally), I'm good with.
i know you can't reply since you're onepostdavis, but is this your one post?
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Pakuni

Quote from: We R Final Four on April 20, 2021, 05:23:29 PM
Perhaps SS told them look.....we are actively pursuing additional players. If the players were have our eye on choose MU..we will take them. If that is the case, we will do everything in our power to find a new an appropriate home for you. If the players we are interested in don't come to campus, you can stay. In the meantime, I encourage you to continue to practice with the team and stay in shape because you are playing next year, whether it be here or somewhere else.
I'm quite certain isn't feeding these guys bullcrap just to pull the rug out from under them.
It's a strange year, but I certainly hope that SS is overturning every stone to get the best players he can to MU—without having to sit a year.

I mean, anything is possible, but don't you think that a kid presented with that scenario would have put his name in the transfer portal by now? If a coach is telling you "You can stay for now, but I might drop you at any moment," it would seem that the smart play is to let other programs know you're available before they fill up all their spots.
So, yeah, this could be possible, but pretty unlikely.

forgetful

Quote from: Pakuni on April 20, 2021, 07:14:34 PM
I mean, anything is possible, but don't you think that a kid presented with that scenario would have put his name in the transfer portal by now? If a coach is telling you "You can stay for now, but I might drop you at any moment," it would seem that the smart play is to let other programs know you're available before they fill up all their spots.
So, yeah, this could be possible, but pretty unlikely.

That was my thought too. What player would stay under that scenario.

It is like telling your significant other, hey I'm actively looking for a new partner. There are several options I'm super excited about, if any of them are interested in me I'm dumping you in a flash. If that happens, I'll try to hook you up with one of my friends, so like you should totally put all your effort into this relationship as practice, because one way or another you'll likely be dating someone.

Dawson Rental

#949
Quote from: onepostdavis on April 20, 2021, 02:36:55 PM
Not to say he's going down this road, but this is high major college basketball and scholarships are a year-by-year arrangement.  Goes both ways.  Just like Theo can head off to Duke, Symir can head off to Syracuse, Koby can head off to Weber State, Jamal can head off to Oakland, Shaka in turn owes these guys nothing.  And if guys like Perez or Akanno or Greg are encouraged to find a new landing spot, then this is a great year to do so since they won't have to sit at all.

"crapty way for Shaka to begin his tenure" is being far too dramatic.  This is a business, and whatever Shaka needs to do to put out the best team possible (legally), I'm good with.

Even if that means showing loyalty to players?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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