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Quote from: Skip Intro on April 19, 2021, 01:18:47 PM
I thought Greg counted as a scholarship this year, since he had an injury redshirt his sophomore year? 

So, if Dawson comes back, we'd be at -1.  Which is why I don't think Dawson's coming back.  If it were Perez or Dexter (or Greg) leaving, I think we'd know by now.   

After Bailey left last year, I stopped trying to guess which kids will stay in the draft and which will return.  Guys like Wade and Ellenson were obviously leaving.

But trying to figure out what guys like Blue, Bailey, Howard, McNeal, and Garcia will do is a fool's errand.

If Garcia wants to return, he will have a spot.  If he leaves, O-Max, Joplin, and Oso need to step up.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Skip Intro on April 19, 2021, 01:09:50 PM
Unfortunately, I think Dawson is one of those departures (or the only departure, if nothing else changes).  I get that he's not in the transfer portal and unlikely to get drafted, but I could see him getting feedback from teams that his quickest route to making an NBA roster is via the G-League.

I would say smart money is definitely on him returning. I truly have no clue what the feedback ultimately will be and how a 19 year old may react to it, but there is definitely no expectation on MU's end that hes gone.

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 19, 2021, 01:24:10 PM
Guessing they're all hearing from the same "insider board".  I'm just not convinced that the info is good.

I don't use any other boards. Based off what I have heard though, I would be truly stunned if we are done.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 19, 2021, 01:24:10 PM
Guessing they're all hearing from the same "insider board".  I'm just not convinced that the info is good.

This is the only board I frequent.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


rocky_warrior

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 19, 2021, 01:46:01 PM
I don't use any other boards. Based off what I have heard though, I would be truly stunned if we are done.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 19, 2021, 02:05:26 PM
This is the only board I frequent.

Fair enough, sorry for the mischaracterization.   It would be nice to see Shaka pick up a big guy (not just tall).  Seems there's plenty of guards/forwards with size - I don't see much more needs there.  But could also see the team (largely) rolling with what we know, and making complimentary pickups next summer (2022).

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

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Quote from: Herman Cain on April 19, 2021, 01:08:59 PM
We currently don't have a -1 problem. Greg is covered by extra year from the NCAA, as he used up all 4 years of his eligibility ( he can apply for an injury waiver after this season) . We are at zero, assuming Dawson comes back.

Are you sure about this?  Didn't Greg red shirt in 18-19?  Wouldn't the waiver only be the case if he played some in 18-19, but not a ton, and enough to file for a waiver after his eligibility was up. 

Further edit: pretty sure this is wrong.  Greg has played in 3 seasons.  He officially red shirted in 18-19, and has only used 3 years of eligibility and 1 red shirt.  I could see this being an argument had Greg participated in like 8-10 games in 18-19, as we've seen the NCAA rule some guys eligible for another season in those cases (Otule is an example off the top of my head).  As far as I can tell, Greg is a senior eligibility wise.  If he wants to use a Covid bonus year, it would be in 22-23. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

onepost

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 19, 2021, 01:24:10 PM
Guessing they're all hearing from the same "insider board".  I'm just not convinced that the info is good.

Like I've stated before, I don't frequent any boards but this so I have no idea what "insider board" info is even out there.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: onepostdavis on April 19, 2021, 03:06:55 PM
Like I've stated before, I don't frequent any boards but this so I have no idea what "insider board" info is even out there.

Well then, also sorry for the mischaracterization.

JakeBarnes

I am definitely part of an outsider board.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

cheebs09

Wait. This isn't the insider board? What am I paying all this money for?

Herman Cain

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 19, 2021, 02:54:52 PM
Are you sure about this?  Didn't Greg red shirt in 18-19?  Wouldn't the waiver only be the case if he played some in 18-19, but not a ton, and enough to file for a waiver after his eligibility was up. 

Further edit: pretty sure this is wrong.  Greg has played in 3 seasons.  He officially red shirted in 18-19, and has only used 3 years of eligibility and 1 red shirt.  I could see this being an argument had Greg participated in like 8-10 games in 18-19, as we've seen the NCAA rule some guys eligible for another season in those cases (Otule is an example off the top of my head).  As far as I can tell, Greg is a senior eligibility wise.  If he wants to use a Covid bonus year, it would be in 22-23.
Here is the basic rule:
A player has 5 years to use his 4 years of eligibility. A player may make an application under certain circumstances to  reclaim a year of eligibility if he has an injury and does not play in more than 30 percent of the Games ( as defined). The waiver is applied for after all the years of eligibility are used.

The new NCAA provision makes it such that 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. For seniors who exhausted all years of eligibility , who stay at their school, the scholarship does not count against the roster limit.

Greg used all 4 years of eligibility.

2017-2018
2018-2019 Did not play Coaches Decision
2019-2020
2020-2021

Under the new rule 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. So Greg can play at MU and not be counted against Scholarship.

Greg can applied for a waiver next year claiming he sat out 2018-19 do to his ankle injury.

I am sure Jay Bee can provide all the exact sections of the code
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brewcity77

Quote from: Herman Cain on April 19, 2021, 03:31:19 PM
Here is the basic rule:
A player has 5 years to use his 4 years of eligibility. A player may make an application under certain circumstances to  reclaim a year of eligibility if he has an injury and does not play in more than 30 percent of the Games ( as defined). The waiver is applied for after all the years of eligibility are used.

The new NCAA provision makes it such that 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. For seniors who exhausted all years of eligibility , who stay at their school, the scholarship does not count against the roster limit.

Greg used all 4 years of eligibility.

2017-2018
2018-2019 Did not play Coaches Decision
2019-2020
2020-2021

Under the new rule 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. So Greg can play at MU and not be counted against Scholarship.

Greg can applied for a waiver next year claiming he sat out 2018-19 do to his ankle injury.

I am sure Jay Bee can provide all the exact sections of the code

This is a rationale I've seen floated by Alabama fans but I don't buy it. Everything I've seen indicates the fifth playing year would be the non-counter. Theo, Jamal, and Koby wouldn't count, Greg would. If Greg was given a non-counting year, it would be 2022-23.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Herman Cain on April 19, 2021, 03:31:19 PM
Here is the basic rule:
A player has 5 years to use his 4 years of eligibility. A player may make an application under certain circumstances to  reclaim a year of eligibility if he has an injury and does not play in more than 30 percent of the Games ( as defined). The waiver is applied for after all the years of eligibility are used.

The new NCAA provision makes it such that 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. For seniors who exhausted all years of eligibility , who stay at their school, the scholarship does not count against the roster limit.

Greg used all 4 years of eligibility.

2017-2018
2018-2019 Did not play Coaches Decision
2019-2020
2020-2021

Under the new rule 2020-21 does not count as a year of eligibility used. So Greg can play at MU and not be counted against Scholarship.

Greg can applied for a waiver next year claiming he sat out 2018-19 do to his ankle injury.

I am sure Jay Bee can provide all the exact sections of the code

I hope you're right, but I don't think you are. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Herman Cain

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 19, 2021, 03:47:03 PM
I hope you're right, but I don't think you are.
We are going through this with one of our kids right now. That is what we have been told by compliance at our kids school .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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Pakuni

Duke transfer Jordan Goldwire to Oklahoma.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Pakuni on April 19, 2021, 05:01:41 PM
Duke transfer Jordan Goldwire to Oklahoma.

Porter would have gotten all the Duke kids and not lose kids TO Duke.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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Any talk of Darryl Morsell thinking of coming over with his AC Haynes?

brewcity77

Quote from: We R Final Four on April 19, 2021, 06:29:45 PM
Any talk of Darryl Morsell thinking of coming over with his AC Haynes?

Yes, there is such talk.

MarquetteMike1977


Guard Charlie Moore transferring from DePaul Blue Demons to Miami Hurricanes, his fourth school

MarquetteMike1977

Departing Miami since the end of the season via transfer have been Chris Lykes to Arkansas, Earl Timberlake to Memphis and Elijah Olaniyi to Stony Brook. Two other players, Isaiah Wong and Kameron McGusty, decided to enter the NBA draft with the option to return to Miami.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on April 20, 2021, 07:25:03 AM
Guard Charlie Moore transferring from DePaul Blue Demons to Miami Hurricanes, his fourth school

*Charlie Moore - The Wojo Killer

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Miller Kopp to Indiana

Whoever said that Indiana made a poor hiring decision needs to be put on public display for ridicule. 

JWags85

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 20, 2021, 08:36:37 AM
Miller Kopp to Indiana

Whoever said that Indiana made a poor hiring decision needs to be put on public display for ridicule.

Indiana got Miller Kopp? The 2nd highest scorer on a 9-15 team Miller Kopp? Oh my lord. Woodson is a wizard.  They may win the B10 by 2-3 games in his first year, SHEESH

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: JWags85 on April 20, 2021, 08:54:48 AM
Indiana got Miller Kopp? The 2nd highest scorer on a 9-15 team Miller Kopp? Oh my lord. Woodson is a wizard.  They may win the B10 by 2-3 games in his first year, SHEESH

Watch Woodson/Matta turn Indiana around in a few years

JWags85

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 20, 2021, 08:56:41 AM
Watch Woodson/Matta turn Indiana around in a few years

They very well might, but getting a transfer who was decent but nothing special for 3 years in the B10 isn't some banner waving validation.

Pakuni

Quote from: JWags85 on April 20, 2021, 08:59:57 AM
They very well might, but getting a transfer who was decent but nothing special for 3 years in the B10 isn't some banner waving validation.

I think if you look at the forest through the Miller Kopp tree, it's hard not to be impressed with the work Woodson has done so far.

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