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Golden Avalanche

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 27, 2021, 11:34:25 AM
Honest question - if Elliott were to leave, who is going to make threes on this team?  I admittedly and not an expert on all of the new guys coming in.  But definitely seems to me like Greg has a role on this team. 

Ehhh.  I think Perez made it pretty clear he is not a high major contributor.  He made it clear he can play against low major teams, and I don't doubt he could find some top 150 type team he could contribute to.  Maybe its Marquette.  But I just don't really see the fit.  All this is asterisked by the fact that we may not have ever seen Perez at his best, or even healthy at all.  So his SSS may not be fair to judge him on, but that's all I got.

That asterisk is so large that not one Marquette fan has an accurate handle on what Perez provides.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 27, 2021, 04:11:19 PM
That asterisk is so large that not one Marquette fan has an accurate handle on what Perez provides.

How about the two years of him being a high usage and low efficiency player on low major team? 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 27, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
How about the two years of him being a high usage and low efficiency player on low major team?

Irrelevant to the discussion of what he provided to the Marquette program.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 27, 2021, 09:55:37 PM
Irrelevant to the discussion of what he provided to the Marquette program.

Haha, Yah I'm gonna disagree that Perez's two seasons at Gardner Webb are irrelevant to what he can bring to the table for Marquette. Especially with how he looked in his minimal playing time in 21. We have three seasons of data points - to just ignore them all is an interest take.

But if he's on the team, I hope he has a monster season! I'll leave it at that.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

vogue65

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 27, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
How about the two years of him being a high usage and low efficiency player on low major team?

What have you done for me lately?
There is a lot to be said for small sample size.

The Sultan

Quote from: vogue65 on April 28, 2021, 08:21:08 AM
What have you done for me lately?
There is a lot to be said for small sample size.


Two years is a small sample size???
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lawdog77

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 27, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
How about the two years of him being a high usage and low efficiency player on low major team?
His stats as a Freshman were not that bad. PER 20.3, AST%18.7, Usage 26.0. Compare that to Markus' Freshman Year. PER 23.1, AST% 19.9, Usage 26.7. Not too different. Granted, his Soph year was less than stellar.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Lawdog is correct. Jose's freshman year stats were excellent. If he had come out then,  he would have been one of the hottest names in the portal. His sophomore year was not great,  high usage, low efficiency. The hope was always that the staff could bring out freshman year Jose. I think a redshirt would've been helpful for him.

Jose's last season has an asterisk by it in my eyes. The kid was sidelined with covid for months during the offseason. It impacted his development and his conditioning. He gave it a go against APB but afterwards he and the coaches agreed that he wasn't physically ready to play and sat him until he got back in fighting shape. Injuries forced their hand and he played at the end of the season and was clearly not good.

It might be that he was never meant to be a high major player.  But if Shaka wants to give him a chance, I think he might surprise some next season. An entire offseason to get back in shape and develop could be all he needs to be a solid rotation player in the BEAST.

All that being said,  my guess is that Jose ends up elsewhere next season. 
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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panda

I trust my eyes. He's not big enough, skilled enough or quick enough to be a significant contributor at the high major level.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: panda on April 28, 2021, 12:57:41 PM
I trust my eyes. He's not big enough, skilled enough or quick enough to be a significant contributor at the high major level.

And you probably only watched him last year.  When he had Covid knock him on his ass for several months.

lawdog77

Quote from: panda on April 28, 2021, 12:57:41 PM
I trust my eyes. He's not big enough, skilled enough or quick enough to be a significant contributor at the high major level.
He's listed as a 6-5, 210 lb guard. Plenty big enough.

Goose

Not that I really care, but there has been more support for Perez over past couple of weeks than he received during '20-'21 basketball season. I do not realize he was a fan favorite to some on here.

lawdog77

Quote from: Goose on April 28, 2021, 01:26:18 PM
Not that I really care, but there has been more support for Perez over past couple of weeks than he received during '20-'21 basketball season. I do not realize he was a fan favorite to some on here.
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt in terms of:
1. COVID
2. Having a Coach that actually has a structure/plan of action
3. The kid held his own against the high majors when he was at Gardner Webb

wadesworld

Yeah people are making up Scoop overhyping players just so they can feign outrage here.  Just like nobody was claiming Kuath is a potential All American or even All Big East player, nobody is saying Jose is going to be our best player or that they're driving the Jose bandwagon.  They're just saying there's a chance he can contribute and last year might not have been representative of what he can be at his best.

Johnny B

Quote from: lawdog77 on April 28, 2021, 01:38:03 PM
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt in terms of:
1. COVID
2. Having a Coach that actually has a structure/plan of action
3. The kid held his own against the high majors when he was at Gardner Webb
im not. evidence he even had covid?

The Lens

Quote from: Johnny B on April 28, 2021, 04:43:30 PM
im not. evidence he even had covid?

When he skipped the BET held in his hometown...John Dodds said it was no big deal...because could have COVID...and everyone could in fact...and that's also why we wouldn't be making any coaching changes...because of COVID.
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NickelDimer

I actually liked some of what Perez showed last year. I don't think he's a lost cause at all.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: The Lens on April 28, 2021, 04:47:54 PM
When he skipped the BET held in his hometown...John Dodds said it was no big deal...because could have COVID...and everyone could in fact...and that's also why we wouldn't be making any coaching changes...because of COVID.

Dodds is dumb.  Jose had covid last summer.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: NickelDimer on April 28, 2021, 04:54:28 PM
I actually liked some of what Perez showed last year. I don't think he's a lost cause at all.

I did like that he was able to get in the post with his frame and get a decent shot off. The problem is he never or rarely made them.

mileskishnish72

I never thought he looked in shape. Of course we can cut him some slack because of the virus but I didn't see enough to be optimistic about.

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79Warrior

Quote from: The Lens on April 28, 2021, 04:47:54 PM
When he skipped the BET held in his hometown...John Dodds said it was no big deal...because could have COVID...and everyone could in fact...and that's also why we wouldn't be making any coaching changes...because of COVID.

Dodds is a one trick pony. All about keeping the court side seat.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

I was bearish on Perez when Wojo recruited him and my opinion hasn't changed.

I see a low major player that got hot a handful of games against top 50 teams his freshman year.


Tha Hound

#1098
So I'm just now coming to terms with the fact that, if Dawson does end up leaving, this team is going to be pretty bad next year.

I know its a rebuild and Shaka is bringing in his guys and it would be nice to honestly just see some growth and development over the course of the season for once, but having another bad year next year would be a bummer. I think having Dawson back is the difference between a bubble team and another year near the bottom of the BE.


Edit - This was posted about 15 minutes before Carton announced he was going pro. So yeah not great.

Edit 2 - T-rank projection without Dawson and DJ moves us from ~48 to ~120

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Tha Hound on April 28, 2021, 05:44:31 PM
So I'm just now coming to terms with the fact that, if Dawson does end up leaving, this team is going to be pretty bad next year.

I know its a rebuild and Shaka is bringing in his guys and it would be nice to honestly just see some growth and development over the course of the season for once, but having another bad year next year would be a bummer. I think having Dawson back is the difference between a bubble team and another year near the bottom of the BE.


Edit - This was posted about 15 minutes before Carton announced he was going pro. So yeah not great.

Edit 2 - T-rank projection without Dawson and DJ moves us from ~48 to ~120

As built now, this team is bad next year without Dawson.  Like I said in the DJ thread, a lot can change, however.
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