MU Alumni playing in European and Foreign Leagues Thread

[pbiflyer]

Howard brothers meet up.

https://x.com/acbcom/status/1723708209582465517?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw

[warriorchick]

Markus Howard requesting to have his sports "citizenship" moved to Puerto Rico

https://twitter.com/Auto1974/status/1722909879008899179

[lawdog77]

Howard brothers meet up.

https://x.com/acbcom/status/1723708209582465517?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw

Jordan scored 22 for the win. Marcus had 33 in the loss

[Jay Bee]

Jordan scored 22 for the win. Marcus had 33 in the loss

How many did Markus put up?

[lawdog77]

How many did Markus put up?

Sorry, in lieu of his possible new citizenship, it is Marcos

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Markus Howard requesting to have his sports "citizenship" moved to Puerto Rico

https://twitter.com/Auto1974/status/1722909879008899179

Wants to pull a Butch Lee at the Olympics

[Galway Eagle]

How does that work? Is every US citizen able to claim Puerto Rican athletic citizenship? Do you need some sort of connection to the island?

[The Sultan]

Sorry, in lieu of his possible new citizenship, it is Marcos

Nope....Markos.

[lawdog77]

Nope....Markos.

Not according to google

https://www.google.com/search?q=markus+to+spanish&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS994US994&oq=markus+to+spanish&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigAdIBCDYxOTVqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[warriorchick]

How does that work? Is every US citizen able to claim Puerto Rican athletic citizenship? Do you need some sort of connection to the island?

He has Puerto Rican ancestry on his mom's side.

[Herman Cain]

Swaggy Du having another excellent season in Europe in German A League. Has been working his way up the league hierarchy in Europe.

https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Duane-Wilson/299813

[Herman Cain]

Henry Ellenson now in Japanese League . Unfortunately , Henry was not an outstanding performer in The Spanish League and is now going down a level. Should be able to do well in Japan, as Davante has done over many years. 
https://basketball.asia-basket.com/Japan/news/817263/Henry-Ellenson-(ex-Joventut)-signs-at-Cyberdyne-Ibaraki-Robots
https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Henry-Ellenson/334250

Henry cut from Japanese team. Did not appear in any games. Must have been injured. Hopefully he finds a new home.
https://www.asia-basket.com/Japan/news/847206/Robots-cut-Ellenson

[Herman Cain]

Greg playing well in Danish league. Good start to his overseas career.

https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Greg-Elliott/450206

[Newsdreams]

Greg playing well in Danish league. Good start to his overseas career.

https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Greg-Elliott/450206

Lists college as Pitt, sad

[BrewCity83]

Henry cut from Japanese team. Did not appear in any games. Must have been injured. Hopefully he finds a new home.
https://www.asia-basket.com/Japan/news/847206/Robots-cut-Ellenson

Ha...Henry was cut from the "Robots".  Seemingly a perfect fit.

[FairWeatherEagle]

Ha...Henry was cut from the "Robots".  Seemingly a perfect fit.

Why do I have this negative vibe whenever I think of Ellenson. Felt like he used us. Felt like he and his family pushed Wojo around. Overrated.   The next thought is I'm too hard on the guy. At least he's seen the world. So I hope he finds success in life.

[wadesworld]

Why do I have this negative vibe whenever I think of Ellenson. Felt like he used us. Felt like he and his family pushed Wojo around. Overrated.   The next thought is I'm too hard on the guy. At least he's seen the world. So I hope he finds success in life.

Meh.  He made $6MM before turning 25 years old, all playing a sport.  He did just fine, and sticking around in college wasn't going to change his career trajectory.

We would've been brutally awful without him.  Luke Fischer and Haanif Cheatham were our 2nd and 3rd leading scorers that year.

[Hards Alumni]

Why do I have this negative vibe whenever I think of Ellenson. Felt like he used us. Felt like he and his family pushed Wojo around. Overrated.   The next thought is I'm too hard on the guy. At least he's seen the world. So I hope he finds success in life.

You're too hard on him. 

[Galway Eagle]

Why do I have this negative vibe whenever I think of Ellenson. Felt like he used us. Felt like he and his family pushed Wojo around. Overrated.   The next thought is I'm too hard on the guy. At least he's seen the world. So I hope he finds success in life.

I think part of it is part the idea that he set us back on team/coach development and part that he got us to a 20 win season with some great wins and yet zero postseason to show for it.

[CountryRoads]

I think part of it is part the idea that he set us back on team/coach development and part that he got us to a 20 win season with some great wins and yet zero postseason to show for it.

It also ended really poorly when Wojo cut Wally after Henry left. Would have been cool if Henry stuck around one more year as that team would have been really fun. Can't pass up being a first rounder though.

[Newsdreams]

It also ended really poorly when Wojo cut Wally after Henry left. Would have been cool if Henry stuck around one more year as that team would have been really fun. Can't pass up being a first rounder though.

Well Woj told Wally either full commit to basketball or high jump, but in a way yes he cut him. Smoke & mirrors

[HutchwasClutch]

Why do I have this negative vibe whenever I think of Ellenson. Felt like he used us. Felt like he and his family pushed Wojo around. Overrated.   The next thought is I'm too hard on the guy. At least he's seen the world. So I hope he finds success in life.

Yes, you're being way too hard on Henry. Averaged 17 and just under 10, first team all conference & freshman of the year.  We won 20 games with him, including a great win in Madison and knocking off top 10 Providence on the road.  Pretty amazing considering how bad a coach Wojo was and how young they were. 

[HutchwasClutch]

I think part of it is part the idea that he set us back on team/coach development and part that he got us to a 20 win season with some great wins and yet zero postseason to show for it.

Wojo was responsible for team/ coach development.  He was paid very well to do so and failed miserably at it.  I don't how that would possibly be on Henry.  What, he owed the program and fans something to stay at least another year?  It was well understood when he joined MU he may be a one and done.  He was top 10 nationally in his class and a McDonald's AA.  Many of those guys aren't in college long.  He bet in himself to be a first round pick and was right.

Any failure after that is on Wojo, his staff, and players, not Henry having the audacity to take his NBA shot. It's ludicrous to say otherwise. And any argument we should have never taken him knowing he would probably leave after 1 year is just as ludicrous.  You don't say no, not interested to consensus top 10 national players.

[MU82]

Why do I have this negative vibe whenever I think of Ellenson. Felt like he used us.

Imagine that ... a top-tier college athlete "using" his chosen program to succeed personally. Because college programs don't "use" athletes at all.

[pbiflyer]

Wojo was responsible for team/ coach development.  He was paid very well to do so and failed miserably at it.  I don't how that would possibly be on Henry.  What, he owed the program and fans something to stay at least another year?  It was well understood when he joined MU he may be a one and done.  He was top 10 nationally in his class and a McDonald's AA.  Many of those guys aren't in college long.  He bet in himself to be a first round pick and was right.

Any failure after that is on Wojo, his staff, and players, not Henry having the audacity to take his NBA shot. It's ludicrous to say otherwise. And any argument we should have never taken him knowing he would probably leave after 1 year is just as ludicrous.  You don't say no, not interested to consensus top 10 national players.

While I agree with what you said, he did not develop any further after Wojo either.