MU Alumni playing in European and Foreign Leagues Thread

[wadesworld]

Measured 5'9.5" barefoot, 5'11" with shoes. 6'0.25" wingspan. Aka too little.

[WarriorFan]

Show us the stats.  That's pretty interesting.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Markus-Howard/Summary/81690
Scroll all the way down to International advanced stats and look at PPR/ORTG/DRTG.  Consider the (high) Usage level. 

[MU82]

Measured 5'9.5" barefoot, 5'11" with shoes. 6'0.25" wingspan. Aka too little.

Thank goodness he gets to wear shoes when he plays or they wouldn't let him on the court in Europe, either!

[The Sultan]

Agree totally. I would like to see solid color in the paint-no designs. Rest of court-confine designs to specific portion of the court designated. Then a team could have whatever design they want, but only in the designated areas.  Trying to regulate the allowable designs themselves is much more difficult than that of unis.

How boring.

[Shooter McGavin]

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Markus-Howard/Summary/81690
Scroll all the way down to International advanced stats and look at PPR/ORTG/DRTG.  Consider the (high) Usage level.

Thank you. 

[lawdog77]

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Markus-Howard/Summary/81690
Scroll all the way down to International advanced stats and look at PPR/ORTG/DRTG.  Consider the (high) Usage level.

A PER over 20 is pretty good

[BrewCity83]

Measured 5'9.5" barefoot, 5'11" with shoes. 6'0.25" wingspan. Aka too little.

Markus has 4 inches of hair too.  So 6'2.5" barefoot with hair, 6'3" with shoes and hair.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

How boring.

All courts should look like Hoosiers.

[JWags85]

A PER over 20 is pretty good

Yea, his PER would currently be top 25 in the NBA.  And his DRTG isn't great, but its not all that far off the NBA average.

[Herman Cain]

Swaggy Du is having an excellent season in the Italian League. He has been steadily working his way up the pecking order of the European leagues .

https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Duane-Wilson/299813

[brewcity77]

If you look at Markus' advanced stats in Europe they show he's not involved in Defense nor does he make the team's offense better.  He's just a shooter/scorer.  Nothing more.
I think we knew that... but if Euro stats prove it, there's no way he gets another shot in the NBA.

I'm curious why you think a player that rarely turns it over, has a 113+ ORtg, shoots 46% from three with over 60 eFG%, and does it at crazy usage levels doesn't help his team on offense.

The defensive numbers are hard to evaluate without seeing full team numbers or long term on/off splits, but the advanced stats on offense definitely do not show what you say they show.

[The Sultan]

All courts should look like Hoosiers.

TCU's court is awesome on television.

[tower912]

Yes it is.

[Lennys Tap]

I'm 5'11" without shoes and got a picture with Markus. I was no taller than him. Didn't notice his shoes but I doubt he was in platform shoes.

Three possibilities:
A) You don't know your own height.
B) You're mistaken that you were no taller.
C) A and B

Posting history screams "C".

[wadesworld]

Three possibilities:
A) You don't know your own height.
B) You're mistaken that you were no taller.
C) A and B

Posting history screams "C".

Markus did measure 5'11" in shoes at the Draft Combine. So probably not super far off.

[The Sultan]

Three possibilities:
A) You don't know your own height.
B) You're mistaken that you were no taller.
C) A and B

Posting history screams "C".

Lol. You quote a post from a few days ago for the sole purpose of calling out the poster? Even though looks like he is correct anyway?

Puh-thetic.

[warriorchick]

Markus did measure 5'11" in shoes at the Draft Combine. So probably not super far off.

Do they check for lifts?

[lawdog77]

Markus out for a bit

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1447683/baskonia-rules-out-markus-howard-versus-partizan-euroleague/

[Lennys Tap]

Lol. You quote a post from a few days ago for the sole purpose of calling out the poster? Even though looks like he is correct anyway?

Puh-thetic.

LOL. I'm not on Scoop 16 hours a day like you. I don't have alerts so I can stalk posters and respond immediately like you. Sometimes I have to go back two or three days to get caught up. When I read something for the first time, sometimes I reply. That OK with you, fluffy little one?
(Rhetorical question, please don't waste anyone's time with an inane, trying desperately to be clever reply)

Want to know pathetic? The fact that MU SCOOP is the center of your universe. Good God.

Oh, and no way MH is that tall (5'11" without shoes).

[Lennys Tap]

Markus did measure 5'11" in shoes at the Draft Combine. So probably not super far off.

Bias said 5'11" in bare feet

[The Sultan]

LOL. I'm not on Scoop 16 hours a day like you. I don't have alerts so I can stalk posters and respond immediately like you. Sometimes I have to go back two or three days to get caught up. When I read something for the first time, sometimes I reply. That OK with you, fluffy little one?
(Rhetorical question, please don't waste anyone's time with an inane, trying desperately to be clever reply)

Want to know pathetic? The fact that MU SCOOP is the center of your universe. Good God.

Oh, and no way MH is that tall (5'11" without shoes).

You're lying.

You responded to a post from January 9th.  Yet somehow you've made 15 posts since withoutbias made his post?  Face it, you just wanted to find one of his posts to respond to because you wanted to pile on cause he said something you didn't like.

So dishonest. And transparently so. I mean, you aren't even a clever liar.

[Lennys Tap]

You're lying.

You responded to a post from January 9th.  Yet somehow you've made 15 posts since withoutbias made his post?  Face it, you just wanted to find one of his posts to respond to because you wanted to pile on cause he said something you didn't like.

So dishonest. And transparently so. I mean, you aren't even a clever liar.

I responded to it today because today was the first time I saw it. Since I have hobbies other than Scoop when I fall behind I start with the last posts I see in threads and go backwards until I've caught up. When I see one I want to reply to, I do.

So no lies. But stick with your stalking and pathetic conspiracy theories. They suit you.

[rocket surgeon]

I responded to it today because today was the first time I saw it. Since I have hobbies other than Scoop when I fall behind I start with the last posts I see in threads and go backwards until I've caught up. When I see one I want to reply to, I do.

So no lies. But stick with your stalking and pathetic conspiracy theories. They suit you.

  what???  you don't have a separate phone hanging from your belt with only scoop on it??  come on man!  join the scoop-aholics where it's always "happy hour"

[The Sultan]

I responded to it today because today was the first time I saw it. Since I have hobbies other than Scoop when I fall behind I start with the last posts I see in threads and go backwards until I've caught up. When I see one I want to reply to, I do.

So no lies. But stick with your stalking and pathetic conspiracy theories. They suit you.

You're not even a GOOD liar.

[IrwinFletcher]

Markus out for a bit

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1447683/baskonia-rules-out-markus-howard-versus-partizan-euroleague/

I can't believe that Markus is only 23 years old.