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Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst


MU82

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 31, 2021, 10:57:22 AM

And honestly if Joey had gone to MSU in the first place, I think there is zero doubt that Sam would have finished his career at MU.

This.

I like the Celtics as a landing spot for Hauser. I'd be surprised if he didn't get a good NBA run this season.
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Herman Cain

#578
Box Score Celtics versus Nuggets NBA Summer League

https://www.nba.com/game/bos-vs-den-1522100018/box-score#box-score

Sam had a typical Sam game playing within the flow . Kind of like his freshman season at MU.

Unfortunately Markus was  DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game
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    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

lawdog77

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 11, 2021, 05:27:55 AM
Box Score Celtics versus Nuggets NBA Summer League

https://www.nba.com/game/bos-vs-den-1522100018/box-score#box-score

Sam had a typical Sam game playing within the flow . Kind of like his freshman season at MU.

Unfortunately Markus was  DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game
My eyes saw a rather pedestrian effort playing with/against guys fighting for spots 10-15 on a roster. He's going to have to do more than he did last night to get a call up, IMO.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 11, 2021, 05:27:55 AM
Unfortunately Markus was  DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game

In protocol with a bunch of the roster.

MU82

Quote from: lawdog77 on August 11, 2021, 06:39:34 AM
My eyes saw a rather pedestrian effort playing with/against guys fighting for spots 10-15 on a roster. He's going to have to do more than he did last night to get a call up, IMO.

He is a spot-up shooter who mostly will linger on the perimeter, which is exactly what he did last night. That will be his offensive role. Defensively, he more than held his own. He has a two-way contract, so he probably will see time in the NBA, but he is guaranteed little. We'll see!
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The Sultan

If he hits shots, he will play.  If he doesn't, he won't.  The rest of his skills are rather run of the mill for the NBA at this point.  But who knows? 

The NBA lets players develop more than they used to.  He will have the opportunity.
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lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on August 11, 2021, 10:44:54 AM
He is a spot-up shooter who mostly will linger on the perimeter, which is exactly what he did last night. That will be his offensive role. Defensively, he more than held his own. He has a two-way contract, so he probably will see time in the NBA, but he is guaranteed little. We'll see!
We'll agree to disagree on this. He was matched up with Bol a few times. Did not match up well. He's going to have to do a little more than linger on the perimeter. There are at least 17 guys with guaranteed contracts with the Celtics. Not too mention Begarin and Lawson. It's an uphill climb for him.

The Sultan

I don't think anyone reasonably thinks that Hauser will make the Celtics this year.  He is on a two-way deal, which means he will be mostly in the G League, and may get a call up due to injury to sit on the end of the bench. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: lawdog77 on August 11, 2021, 10:58:29 AM
We'll agree to disagree on this. He was matched up with Bol a few times. Did not match up well. He's going to have to do a little more than linger on the perimeter. There are at least 17 guys with guaranteed contracts with the Celtics. Not too mention Begarin and Lawson. It's an uphill climb for him.

I saw Bol go right through Hauser once; otherwise, I don't remember Bol or any other Nuggets player owning him. I will say I didn't come close to watching every minute of the game, however. Hauser had good help-D position whenever he was on the court, had a couple solid close-outs that helped force missed 3s, got good rebounding position to finish with 5 boards.

But we actually agree on most of this, lawdog. Uphill climb to be sure, as it is for all rookies on 2-way deals. We'll see!
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MuggsyB

#586
Who ya got making a roster?  S. Hauser or Max Strus? 

Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat.  Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?

We R Final Four

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 11, 2021, 07:58:28 PM
Who ya got making a roster?  S. Hauser or Max Strus? 

Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat.  Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?
Yes. There was talk about Strauss heading into his last year as a fringe NBA guy. He could score in bunches and could sometimes hit from 30'.

lawdog77

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 11, 2021, 07:58:28 PM
Who ya got making a roster?  S. Hauser or Max Strus? 

Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat.  Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?
Yes. Strus has good size for a guard-6-6, and could score from deep or on the drive. Thought he had a chance to make a roster.

MuggsyB

Quote from: We R Final Four on August 11, 2021, 08:27:47 PM
Yes. There was talk about Strauss heading into his last year as a fringe NBA guy. He could score in bunches and could sometimes hit from 30'.

He must be a better athlete than Sammy. 

tower912

Quicker, more versatile.  Shot release is quicker.
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JWags85

Regardless of the comparison, I'm still shocked Strus has stuck in the league.  I don't think he's athletic enough to be a 2 and he's kind of undersized as a 3.  He was a good shooter but not a great one.  But full marks to him for hustling and finding a spot.

The only Big East alum more surprising to me is McDermott from Butler.  He was just a guy and another undersized SF, but he got decent minutes on his two way and he's stuck around.

MuggsyB

Big game from Sam tonight.  6-8 from distance.

MU82

Not only did Hauser hit shot after shot after shot -- when he finally missed with a couple minutes to play, the announcer said something like, "It just seems so weird to see him miss" -- but he also played very well on defense during the time I watched. On one first-half possession, he ended up on Suggs in a switch, cut off Suggs in the lane, and forced a difficult shot that Suggs missed. I am not saying Hauser is a young Iguodala on D. I'm saying he's a good team defender with long arms and intelligence.
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JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on August 12, 2021, 09:50:46 PM
Not only did Hauser hit shot after shot after shot -- when he finally missed with a couple minutes to play, the announcer said something like, "It just seems so weird to see him miss" -- but he also played very well on defense during the time I watched. On one first-half possession, he ended up on Suggs in a switch, cut off Suggs in the lane, and forced a difficult shot that Suggs missed. I am not saying Hauser is a young Iguodala on D. I'm saying he's a good team defender with long arms and intelligence.

Yep, not everyone can be a smothering menace on the perimeter like Davion Mitchell.  Or roam and eat up space to make insane plays like Giannis.  But there is something to be said on defense for always knowing where to be and not getting lost.  You can deal with someone getting beat 1 on 1 if they aren't going to be out of position or completely blow off the ball assignments

Herman Cain

Sam has always had a knack for being on the right place on the floor at the right time. That leads to clean shot opportunities and also helps on the defensive side. Makes him a very easy player for his teammates to play with.

Was nice to see him do well tonight. 

 
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MuggsyB

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 12, 2021, 10:41:08 PM
Sam has always had a knack for being on the right place on the floor at the right time. That leads to clean shot opportunities and also helps on the defensive side. Makes him a very easy player for his teammates to play with.

Was nice to see him do well tonight. 



True.  But remember this is S-League Herman.  85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 12, 2021, 10:45:30 PM
True.  But remember this is S-League Herman.  85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.

Though I don't know for sure that Hauser will be an NBA player (how could anybody know that?), I think he will be. He isn't merely good at the very thing that NBA teams value most at this point in time; he is excellent at it.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Herman Cain

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 12, 2021, 10:45:30 PM
True.  But remember this is S-League Herman.  85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.
I think for guys like Sam , Summer league is more of a proof of concept . The visibility is helpful.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 13, 2021, 12:08:29 AM
I think for guys like Sam , Summer league is more of a proof of concept . The visibility is helpful.

Outstanding point, 9-9-9.

Hauser is not some one-and-done with a limited body of work. He's been around for a long time and Boston knew exactly what his game was when they signed him. Performances like he had last night merely serve as confirmation.
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