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wadesworld

Quote from: TSmith34 on October 28, 2020, 08:13:27 AM
I just want to make sure I understand your position: Lying is bad, really, really bad, and no one should vote for candidate the lies, is that correct?

Absolutely hysterical that 45 is able to brainwash people like this.  The things that have been staring them in the face with 45 are now becoming issues with our political leaders in this country?

The Sultan

The need for people to not admit they were wrong, or to justify why they are going to act how they will act, is a strong one.

At least people who say say "F*ck it.  I don't care about any of that.  I want to own the libs." is being more consistent than someone who looks at the speck of sawdust in their brother's eye and pays no attention to the plank in their own.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 27, 2020, 08:37:02 PM

The downside of this is we get bombarded with outright misrepresentations, lies, nonsense and glittering generalities on television. 24 hours a day of silly political ads. Would you guys PLEASE spend you money someplace else???!!!!

like that only happens in FL?

I can't wait for regular ads to return next week lol

Pakuni

Pretty sure Scoop's second-most grammatically challenged plaque scraper is just trolling at this point.

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 28, 2020, 08:07:07 AM
I don't think the strategy of limiting those who can vote, making it harder for people to vote, and putting limits on how and when votes can be counted, is a long-term winner.

Eventually broadening your appeal is going to have to be the way to grow your party.

Yep.
This sums up where Trump has put the GOP:

@JimVandeHei
🚨 Trump's GOP relies almost exclusively on a shrinking demographic (white men), living in shrinking areas (small, rural towns), creating a reliance on people with shrinking incomes (white workers without college degrees) to survive.

https://www.axios.com/republican-voters-rural-suburbs-future-trump-38bd5273-7584-4d69-834d-dc4d9e3c8ac8.html

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Pakuni on October 28, 2020, 09:17:28 AM
Yep.
This sums up where Trump has put the GOP:

@JimVandeHei
🚨 Trump's GOP relies almost exclusively on a shrinking demographic (white men), living in shrinking areas (small, rural towns), creating a reliance on people with shrinking incomes (white workers without college degrees) to survive.

https://www.axios.com/republican-voters-rural-suburbs-future-trump-38bd5273-7584-4d69-834d-dc4d9e3c8ac8.html

And weirdly dentists seem to be a big portion of those demographics. Even beyond scoop.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 27, 2020, 10:59:20 PM
The liberal playbook just before a general election is to lie about their positions so they don't expose themselves as the radicals they are.  Biden's already lied about not wanting to ban fracking, even though he's on record proclaiming he wants to do exactly that, and he's had to walk back his debate pledge to kill the oil industry.  So why he's not following suit about his position on packing the court is surprising because lying is what he does.  And that's solely why I brought that point up.

At least you admit the left wants an activist judiciary.  You may not like arguments why liberal ideas you like aren't constitutional, but that is not our sides version of judicial activism.  The duty of The Supreme Court is to interpret and uphold our Constitution, not blindly follow legal precedent that goes against our Constitution.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/sep/01/joe-biden/fact-checkin-joe-biden-pa-his-fracking-policy/
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


rocket surgeon

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2020, 06:22:17 AM
You now have a Big Guy who's a traitor and sold out the U.S.A. for personal gain. Bobulinski is the 2020 version of Monica's blue dress, aina?


AND, NO ONE COVERED THE STORY except fox news.  this is exactly why i continue to say "journalism" is dead.  people don't realize that if they can withhold this from the public, what else can they/do they withhold.  are they telling the american people the truth?  all i ask is that everything is presented so people can make an informed choice based on their belief system
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 28, 2020, 10:06:05 AM

AND, NO ONE COVERED THE STORY except fox news.  this is exactly why i continue to say "journalism" is dead.  people don't realize that if they can withhold this from the public, what else can they/do they withhold.  are they telling the american people the truth?  all i ask is that everything is presented so people can make an informed choice based on their belief system

The news division of Fox passed on the story.  The Wall Street Journal went through Bobulinski's claims and shrugged their shoulders.

Guster is for Lovers

4everwarriors

Yeah butt, Biden will bring honor and stability to the presidency. He such a nice man. Devoted his entire life's work to the American people, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2020, 10:18:22 AM
Yeah butt, Biden will bring honor and stability to the presidency. He such a nice man. Devoted his entire life's work to the American people, hey?

Yup
Guster is for Lovers

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2020, 10:18:22 AM
Yeah butt, Biden will bring honor and stability to the presidency. He such a nice man. Devoted his entire life's work to the American people, hey?

Agreed.

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 28, 2020, 10:06:05 AM

AND, NO ONE COVERED THE STORY except fox news.  this is exactly why i continue to say "journalism" is dead.  people don't realize that if they can withhold this from the public, what else can they/do they withhold.  are they telling the american people the truth?  all i ask is that everything is presented so people can make an informed choice based on their belief system

What is Trump hiding by withholding his tax returns from the public?  Is he telling the American people the truth?  I'd love to make an informed choice based on my belief system, but I haven't been presented with the information I need.

shoothoops

Only 43% of Philadelphia USPS first class mail is being delivered on time.

https://twitter.com/Dan_F_Jacobson/status/1321466466244403201?s=19

Galway Eagle

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 28, 2020, 10:06:05 AM

AND, NO ONE COVERED THE STORY except fox news.  this is exactly why i continue to say "journalism" is dead.  people don't realize that if they can withhold this from the public, what else can they/do they withhold.  are they telling the american people the truth?  all i ask is that everything is presented so people can make an informed choice based on their belief system

Simple question: Do you believe Fox News to be fair, unbiased and properly fact checked news?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

4everwarriors

Biden will never fulfill his term. Since it is evident he isn't physically or mentally capable, he's merely an electable conduit for the Squad and other radicals. He'll take their deal and buyout, Harris becomes da Prez and the U.S. and all it fought for and stands for, is flushed forever more, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Pakuni

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 28, 2020, 10:06:05 AM

AND, NO ONE COVERED THE STORY except fox news.  this is exactly why i continue to say "journalism" is dead.  people don't realize that if they can withhold this from the public, what else can they/do they withhold.  are they telling the american people the truth?  all i ask is that everything is presented so people can make an informed choice based on their belief system

The conservative-leaning, Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal covered the story.
And determined it was false.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partner-alleges-father-knew-about-venture-11603421247

The notion that media organizations are somehow obliged to report every
scurrilous allegation, crackpot theory and baseless conspiracy theory - facts be damned - is about the dumbest thing posted in this thread. And that's quite an accomplishment.

Four years ago, every major media organization - from the Times to the Post to CNN - took a pass on reporting the Steele dossier just before the election because it couldn't be supported.
Do you believe they should have put it out there anyhow?

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2020, 10:42:11 AM
Biden will never fulfill his term. Since it is evident he isn't physically or mentally capable, he's merely an electable conduit for the Squad and other radicals. He'll take their deal and buyout, Harris becomes da Prez and the U.S. and all it fought for and stands for, is flushed forever more, hey?

Been hitting the nitrous oxide a bit hard lately? Or is this something Q told you?
People who actually believe any of this are in no position to question the mental acuity of others.

The Sultan

#242
Quote from: Pakuni on October 28, 2020, 10:44:21 AM
The conservative-leaning, Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal covered the story.
And determined it was false.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partner-alleges-father-knew-about-venture-11603421247


Right.  This is actually a great example of how journalism ISN'T dead.  People looked at the story, determined it didn't hold up to facts, and didn't report it.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 28, 2020, 10:18:22 AM
Yeah butt, Biden will bring honor and stability to the presidency. He such a nice man. Devoted his entire life's work to the American people, hey?

Come' on, MAN  8-)
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on October 28, 2020, 10:44:21 AM
The conservative-leaning, Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal covered the story.
And determined it was false.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partner-alleges-father-knew-about-venture-11603421247

The notion that media organizations are somehow obliged to report every
scurrilous allegation, crackpot theory and baseless conspiracy theory - facts be damned - is about the dumbest thing posted in this thread. And that's quite an accomplishment.

Four years ago, every major media organization - from the Times to the Post to CNN - took a pass on reporting the Steele dossier just before the election because it couldn't be supported.
Do you believe they should have put it out there anyhow?

I can't believe the fake news media has covered up Pizzagate for this long.  Terrifying.

ZiggysFryBoy


forgetful

#246
Removed. Not worth it.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Pakuni on October 28, 2020, 10:44:21 AM
The conservative-leaning, Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal covered the story.
And determined it was false.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partner-alleges-father-knew-about-venture-11603421247

The notion that media organizations are somehow obliged to report every
scurrilous allegation, crackpot theory and baseless conspiracy theory - facts be damned - is about the dumbest thing posted in this thread. And that's quite an accomplishment.

Four years ago, every major media organization - from the Times to the Post to CNN - took a pass on reporting the Steele dossier just before the election because it couldn't be supported.
Do you believe they should have put it out there anyhow?

  but they continued to report russiarussiarussia without any substantiation for over 3 years.  what is happening is NEWS regardless.  your post pakman is beyond comprehension.  what you are saying is exactly what has been happening for years except it is more blatant now.  they have been reporting "facts be damned" on things they want(anti trump) and not reporting ANYTHING on biden except what flavor ice cream he picked out.  they get some tough questions and their heads explode.  why not ask uncle joe about mr bobolinski?  when he has responded with another smear and russian disinformation campaign, that is another whopper

just saying, if we allow the media to censor their reporting, we've all lost our checks and balances.   
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Pakuni

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 28, 2020, 11:11:15 AM
just saying, if we allow the media to censor their reporting, we've all lost our checks and balances.

So you're mad that the media isn't reporting on a story that has been proven false? Got it.
Answer my question ... should the media have reported on the Steele Dossier before the 2016 election? Or were you OK with them censoring their reporting then?

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 28, 2020, 10:06:05 AM

AND, NO ONE COVERED THE STORY except fox news. 
And you still can't understand why.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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