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Author Topic: 2020-21 NFL Season  (Read 59508 times)

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Re: 2020-21 NFL Season
« Reply #2250 on: February 21, 2021, 06:58:30 PM »
I wonder if the lack of immediate activity on the JJ Watt free agency means he is not get the dollars he is looking for. That could be an opening for teams that have less cap room. 

 
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Re: 2020-21 NFL Season
« Reply #2251 on: February 21, 2021, 11:57:03 PM »
I think most teams he'd be interested in are trying fervently to clear cap space in a down year
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Re: 2020-21 NFL Season
« Reply #2252 on: February 22, 2021, 01:21:19 AM »
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For over 50 years the  Lions have proven their incompetence and inability to rebuild.  They have never lacked for star players, Lem Barney , Charlie Sanders, Steve Owens, Billie Sims, Barrie Sanders , Calvin Johnson, Eddie Murray, Doug English etc but management always gets in the way.

The Lions need a change of ownership.

Billy and Barry.

And Eddie Murray was a kicker (not as good as Jason Hanson), not exactly a star one can with a title with.
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Re: 2020-21 NFL Season
« Reply #2253 on: February 22, 2021, 07:41:55 AM »
I still don't think the Panthers are going to get Watson, and I really don't want them to trade as much as ESPN says they want to ... but they did clear more than $20M in cap space last week, and they are now one of the 10 most under-the-cap teams in the league headed into free agency.

As painful as it might be, I'd stick with Bridgewater one more year, and use the draft and free agency to build up several positions that desperately need building. Then they can make the big splash for a QB next season, when the cap hit on cutting Bridgewater would be relative pennies rather than $20M.

If the QB of their dreams falls to them at No. 8, I guess they have to take him. He could sit and learn most of the season while Bridgewater, who you're paying big bucks anyway, gets most of the starts - and most of the punishment behind that mediocre (at best) line.
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« Reply #2254 on: February 22, 2021, 07:56:32 AM »
If they're not sold on Bridgewater, you make the trade for Watson today. 
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« Reply #2255 on: February 22, 2021, 08:46:19 AM »
With the Cap going down, there are going to be some interesting high priced veterans potentially on the market. We have already seen the Texans release JJ Watt. Will the Broncos release Von Miller?
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« Reply #2256 on: February 22, 2021, 09:07:12 AM »
If they're not sold on Bridgewater, you make the trade for Watson today.

They definitely are not sold on Bridgewater, it's obvious by the comments of the owner, GM and coach. They were very much in on the Stafford trades but didn't get him.

Watson is great. He also was 4-12 last year because he played behind a shyte line and Houston's defense sucked. Giving up the farm for him, which would keep the Panthers from improving their shyte line and their mediocre defense, seems questionable to me. But don't get me wrong ... if they happen to get him, I'll be glad it happened.
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Re: 2020-21 NFL Season
« Reply #2257 on: February 22, 2021, 10:13:18 PM »
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« Reply #2258 on: February 23, 2021, 12:59:30 AM »
82, what would you say to this?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/22/deshaun-watson-trade-texans-nfl-fmia-peter-king/

That deal would rob Watson of the Panthers' best offensive player (McCaffrey), a very good receiver (Anderson), and the draft picks that they would need to get him help on the OL and defense. Watson has a no-trade clause, so why would he agree to go to a bad team with a bad OL that is setting itself up to be rebuilding for at least 2 more years? Doesn't make sense.

I just don't see it, but who knows.
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« Reply #2259 on: February 23, 2021, 08:45:25 PM »
I certainly don't think the Panthers have the most compelling collection of assets. The Dolphins are in a class all by themselves (thanks to the Texans), and the Jets are not too far behind. But I guess it depends on if the Texans want picks or player assets (which inherently increase value of any picks)
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« Reply #2260 on: February 23, 2021, 09:22:33 PM »
I certainly don't think the Panthers have the most compelling collection of assets. The Dolphins are in a class all by themselves (thanks to the Texans), and the Jets are not too far behind. But I guess it depends on if the Texans want picks or player assets (which inherently increase value of any picks)

Agree with those good points.

And again ... Watson has a no-trade clause. So ultimately, he will get a say where he goes.
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Re: 2020-21 NFL Season
« Reply #2261 on: February 25, 2021, 10:20:09 AM »
Russ basically demanding a trade out of Seattle.  I’m sure the Bears will be a key player  ;D ;D....:'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #2262 on: February 25, 2021, 01:59:29 PM »
Reading the tea leaves, I think it’s far more likely Wilson gets traded than Watson.

I’m not shocked Chicago is on his list. There’s two QB’s I believe have (at some point in their careers) a desire to play in Chicago. One is Wilson, the other is Rodgers.

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« Reply #2263 on: February 25, 2021, 02:18:10 PM »
Reading the tea leaves, I think it’s far more likely Wilson gets traded than Watson.

I’m not shocked Chicago is on his list. There’s two QB’s I believe have (at some point in their careers) a desire to play in Chicago. One is Wilson, the other is Rodgers.

Why would Rodgers want to play in Chicago?

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« Reply #2264 on: February 25, 2021, 02:20:31 PM »
Why would Rodgers want to play in Chicago?


Because he owns Soldier Field???
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« Reply #2265 on: February 25, 2021, 02:21:51 PM »
Why would Rodgers want to play in Chicago?

Why did Favre want to play in Minnesota?  To stick it to the Packers organization
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« Reply #2266 on: February 25, 2021, 02:29:11 PM »
Why did Favre want to play in Minnesota?  To stick it to the Packers organization


It was a little more than that.  He knew the Vikings were right on the cusp.  He knew they needed a quarterback.  And he had a history with Darrell Bevell, who was Favre's QB coach for awhile in GB and was the offensive coordinator in Minnesota.  He was good friends with Ryan Longwell.
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« Reply #2267 on: February 25, 2021, 02:32:52 PM »
This whole QB shuffling chaos is kinda fun. Now I just kinda want to see how far it can go. How many teams get a new starter next year? Aim for the sky, who else wants to get on the carousel?

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« Reply #2268 on: February 25, 2021, 02:52:39 PM »
Why did Favre want to play in Minnesota?  To stick it to the Packers organization

I understand Favre having that motivation.  I think they're are still quite a few dominos that would need to fall for Rodgers to want to "stick it to the Packers."

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« Reply #2269 on: February 25, 2021, 03:05:50 PM »
Why would Rodgers want to play in Chicago?

Gut feeling based on some whispers that have been out there. He’s not shy about his love for the city itself either.

I don’t think he’ll ever be a Bear, but if he was ever released and had his pick of where to go, I wouldn’t be stunned in the least if it was Chicago.
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« Reply #2270 on: February 25, 2021, 03:44:12 PM »
Gut feeling based on some whispers that have been out there. He’s not shy about his love for the city itself either.

I don’t think he’ll ever be a Bear, but if he was ever released and had his pick of where to go, I wouldn’t be stunned in the least if it was Chicago.

Thanks for the response.   

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« Reply #2271 on: February 25, 2021, 03:59:27 PM »
Thanks for the response.

Just to add context, he gets asked about playing for the Bears way more often than he should in interviews. Some of it is playfulness on his part. I think he just enjoys the city more than anything of substance here.
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« Reply #2272 on: February 25, 2021, 04:07:35 PM »
Gut feeling based on some whispers that have been out there. He’s not shy about his love for the city itself either.

I don’t think he’ll ever be a Bear, but if he was ever released and had his pick of where to go, I wouldn’t be stunned in the least if it was Chicago.

Knowing the Bears, they will always have an opening at QB  ;)

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« Reply #2273 on: February 25, 2021, 04:51:13 PM »

It was a little more than that.  He knew the Vikings were right on the cusp.  He knew they needed a quarterback.  And he had a history with Darrell Bevell, who was Favre's QB coach for awhile in GB and was the offensive coordinator in Minnesota.  He was good friends with Ryan Longwell.

All that as well, yes
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« Reply #2274 on: February 25, 2021, 05:42:21 PM »
This whole QB shuffling chaos is kinda fun. Now I just kinda want to see how far it can go. How many teams get a new starter next year? Aim for the sky, who else wants to get on the carousel?

Agreed. If Dish is right that there is a fair chance Wilson gets dealt, have to think Jerrah will want to get involved. They have to figure out the money for Dak anyway, not a stretch they just allocate it to Russ. And on and on it goes.

 

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